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Post Lockdown Gigs w/Poll

Will it be business as usual when the venues open back up?

  • Yes

    Votes: 23 17.3%

  • No

    Votes: 110 82.7%
  • Total voters
    133
#21
I was raised human and most of my extended circle of friends and family to date are also human, but I do have a couple favorite dogs, but they aren't really influencing me as a human except when I stop whatever I'm doing to rub their fuzzy heads. (Grammar run-on, -15%)
So I optimistically predict that human nature will persevere. I do not believe that suddenly and permanently all humans will cease interaction and social intercourse and commerce and industry and sports and music and art. We might be jittery for a while but there is no way this re-writes the way humans have interacted since Eden. You can write it down. Life will resume as normal, maybe not in a week but soon.

The real questions:
After Coronation do musicians simply stop performing? Sculptors stop sculpting, chefs stop cooking, vegans stop interrupting, quarterbacks stop throwing, banks stop lending, farmers stop harvesting, cross-fitters stop rotating tires perpendicularly, hairstylists stop cutting?
I'm willing to bet, and to risk, that life isolated is less sustainable than life as we know it.

So yeah, life goes on.
 
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#22
Spidey2112 said:
And Gilligan's Island will make a resurgence as one of the best shows ever made.
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#23
Helix said:
After the “Lockdown” ends in the states that are enforcing them, what immediate changes do you see happening to the venues that hosts live music?

Will there be temporary rule’s, such as wearing masks during shows or some sort of social distancing / cutting the number of people allowed in a venue?

Or will it be business as usual when they open back up?

Thoughts?
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I think it’ll vary by area. I wouldn’t surprise at all if masks are worn in places that are being hit hard like NYC or at really large concerts for a little while. But I’m guessing most of the regulars that support local live music in this area aren’t too worried about the virus and a lot of them are drinkers and smokers that aren’t going to want to wear masks anyways.
 
#25
I too think that not much is going to real go full throttle ahead until the vaccine is done with all its trials, released, and widely used. Vaccine trials started here in Washington state in early March and there's a second one going into trials this month. The trials need to be completed though to prove efficacy and discover side effects. Once that happens, I think we will rebound with a vengeance. People are dying to get out there and the clubs will do a huge business when it's safe for people to do that.

Problem is that a lot of the small clubs have closed their doors and won't be re-opening them. So net effect is that we will probably have fewer places to play. Then again, if there really does turn out to be a resurgence in club-goers, we may see new places open up. Personally, I'm hoping we get back to some version of normal by November because we a high-paying gig then that hasn't been cancelled on us yet.

And I have to tell you that those young - just turned 21-folks - are more than raring to go. In fact, a fair amount of them went anyhow despite the warnings before the bars were closed. Comes from that feeling of immortality that you have in the early 20's. I remember it well, but now I know better.

Our Land Lady's granddaughter turned 21 before this all hit and she was out for "drinks" almost every night as to be expected from a just turned 21'er. But it went on for months. Then she got a job as a waitress at a local sports bar. She also had a house cleaning business that dried up as soon as social-distancing became a thing. Shortly thereafter, the Sports Bar closed. She still went out almost every night.

She's moved down to Arizona now to live with a friend and still refuses to wear a mask or stay out of groups, let along social distancing with individuals. Her answer is, "no one wears masks down here." She doesn't even consider that although her age group is rarely getting sick from it, she could be carrying it, be asymptomatic, and very easily be spreading it. Remember Typhoid Mary?

We had to ask her to not come to our downstairs apartment anymore because my wife and I are both "69; my wife has chronic respiratory problems; we both have asthma; and she was still clubbing. She just couldn't fathom the danger she was presenting to us. "I'm fine! I feel fine. None of my friends are even sick." was her answer. We miss her, but we don't miss her to death!;)
 
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Spidey2112 said:
Corona bucket specials will be promoted at prices lower than the average cost of a gallon of gas.* * The limes, on the other hand, will cost you dearly.
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:roflmao: ....note to self: hoard limes!


per the OP: i think all of the comments/posts make a continuum from the 'old order' to the 'new order' and everyone's POV is valid. nothing will be the same, for one reason or another, for some period of time, in one place or another.

but i think Killing Floor 's thinking is correct, as a bottom line: like it or not we have a 'human nature' and we're 'meant' to be a social animal.
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Killing Floor said:
life goes on.
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#28
I think that there might be short term restrictions even if they do re-open. For example, before the order for full out closing of bars and restaurants happened, the Quebec government initially imposed a half seating restriction in restaurants so that social distancing (I prefer the term physical distancing) would be implemented. I can see them doing something similar as they reopen things.

For whether people will return, I can see two scenarios:
1) People will be apprehensive to gather in large groups and stay away.
or
2) People will be itching to get out after having being cooped up in isolation for so long.

And I think that will depend on each individual's personal situation. I think those with small children or that are in contact with elder parents or grandparents, who may be in a long term care facility, may be more inclined to continue to stay home and be extra careful until a vaccine is approved and distributed.

I think single people or those that have active social lives, but may not have as many family obligations might still go out.
 
#29
One really fun way to think it through...
Roughly how many people were considering attending SXSW (music, film, etc.)? How many people were kinda thinking of maybe checking out Coachella?
How many folks are on the affirmative side of "on the fence" to journey to Bonaroo or ACL or Glastonbury or Chicago Blues? Or anyone's "next" gig? Are those people gone or are they still around somewhere?
How many restaurants and hotels and bars and stores did you pass on the way to your last gig? They were all built to house people that Demand to be fed, lodged, entertained, etc.
I'm only speaking for 1 of 7.8 Billion people but I for one can't wait to get the heck out of my house and as soon as the lockdown is lifted.
ps I also can't wait to see people going to work and taking care of their families again.
 
#30
My big stuff is all cancelled for the summer already. Maybe some bar gigs will pop up eventually. I see a lot of people streaming with various degrees of success and technical capabilities, but not making any money doing so. Glad I have a day job. FoSho.
 
#31
I read that 72% of fans will not attend an NFL game until a vaccine is available. I don't see why that wouldn't scale to other live events.

I expect things to very different going forward and not in a good way. I'm not sure things will ever return to "normal," whatever that is.
 
#37
My bands work Indian casinos. Being as they are ruled as "sovereign nations", I'm not sure how the liability thing will factor in. Currently, like all the other venues, they are closed until further notice. I don't think they'll abide by the typical rules when things reopen, limiting number of people, temperature scans, etc. I can just imagine the legal difficulties in trying to sue a sovereign nation. :confused:

In the meantime, I just did a FB livestream with my trio last night, and we did surprisingly well with a virtual tip jar. People. Want. Entertainment. Period! When things do go off lockdown, I think you're going to see an upswing in the venues that survive. I also think that most of the typical clubs/bars will not survive. Most of these places , in my area at least, are not exactly run well. So my $0.02 is, we'll probably see new venues opening up that may just do very well, at least in the beginning. Best of luck and health to us all !
 
#38
It's going to be a while. When it does come back, because I'm not playing to make a living, I'm feeling I should step back and let musician friends who need the money get the gigs. Also, I'm 68, so I wonder if I'll just feel too old to want to gig by time it does come back. Feel robbed of a couple of my last "good years". Still, we're really lucky.
 
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#39
I play in churches - one of them has regular attendance that approaches 1,000 people at one of the services. It'll be a while before gatherings that large are allowed.

We did one virtual service with a full band (at Thursday's rehearsal time) at the start of this. By the next week, a small band did 3 services worth, which have run out.

Easter, we did a virtual/working from home band - everyone recorded their parts at home to a click (on our phones in video), and they were assembled into something I'll get to hear tomorrow. Bass guitar isolated tracks are about the most un-musical thing until they're paired with the rest of the band. Recording them on an iphone doesn't help, but I got mine pretty decent.
 
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