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Preamp DI Pedal: I Want One, Not Two

Aug 28, 2004
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Good morning,

This is a repost from TGP, in the hopes of finding more responses:

I like my Orange Guitar Butler. I like my Orange Bass Butler. I do not like the fact that I have to use each for their specific instrument. I know I don’t really NEED to do that, but that’s what I’m doing, and I want to stop. I want one pedal that will do the whole Sansamp thing, the requirements of which I will explain shortly, for all of my instruments, rather than multiple pedals. My reason: Clutter. Here are the boxes it must tick, in no particular order:

1. Must have XLR out. I have a powered Accugroove Latte cab, which uses an XLR in - not a multipurpose jack, but a dedicated XLR - and I have to accommodate it.
2. Must have, at least, a clean channel, a crunch channel, and an extremely high-gain channel, all of which work equally beautifully with guitar and bass.
3. It must have an on-board effects loop.
4. It must be able to be powered by a Voodoo Lab Pedal Power 3 Plus, with one of the cables Voodoo Lab sell for this purpose.
5. It must be analog. I do accept digital switching and preset storage, and IR loading, but the main signal needs to be analog.

The following parameters are negotiable:

1. IR loading
2. Tube preamp
3. Modern voicing
4. Not be the size of a Pedaltrain Novo 32
5. Be affordable, and relatively easy to find

The closest I can find is the old Tech 21 Character Series Deluxe pedals - VT Bass, Blonde and Liverpool. I had a VT Deluxe, but the V1 does not have speaker sim defeat. Those three pedals don’t have modern voicing, and they aren’t explicitly marketed as being able to do both, but I have had the VT and Blonde Deluxe pedals, and I know they work. I want other options, though; I’m not averse to Tech 21, but someone else might have the better product for my needs.

Thank you.
 
I'm inclined to say a preamp pedal that meets all your requirements doesn't exist. 3 channels is mostly a geetaur thing, but those are usually high passed in some form so not very useful for bass.

Why don't you look for a suitable 1 or 2 channel pre and use a drive/od pedal in that FX loop you require for the high gain stuff?

Also, the settings you find for bass won't work on the 6 string mini bass, so there's a lot of fiddling involved when switching.

All your requirements and issues can be solved with digital gear. If not an HX device, maybe the new Fender unit or something from another brand?
 
If not an HX device, maybe the new Fender unit or something from another brand?

Like a TONEX. Works for me for guitar and bass. Don’t care that it’s all digital and I am generally a tube amp purist/snob for guitar.

Incidentally, I have this on a Pedaltrain Nano with a TU-2 and my wireless receiver and powered with a Voodoo Lab X4. And that’s it for just about any situation I can imagine. Bass gig, guitar gig, acoustic gig, pedal steel gig.
 
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Good morning,

This is a repost from TGP, in the hopes of finding more responses:

I like my Orange Guitar Butler. I like my Orange Bass Butler. I do not like the fact that I have to use each for their specific instrument. I know I don’t really NEED to do that, but that’s what I’m doing, and I want to stop. I want one pedal that will do the whole Sansamp thing, the requirements of which I will explain shortly, for all of my instruments, rather than multiple pedals. My reason: Clutter. Here are the boxes it must tick, in no particular order:

1. Must have XLR out. I have a powered Accugroove Latte cab, which uses an XLR in - not a multipurpose jack, but a dedicated XLR - and I have to accommodate it.
2. Must have, at least, a clean channel, a crunch channel, and an extremely high-gain channel, all of which work equally beautifully with guitar and bass.
3. It must have an on-board effects loop.
4. It must be able to be powered by a Voodoo Lab Pedal Power 3 Plus, with one of the cables Voodoo Lab sell for this purpose.
5. It must be analog. I do accept digital switching and preset storage, and IR loading, but the main signal needs to be analog.

The following parameters are negotiable:

1. IR loading
2. Tube preamp
3. Modern voicing
4. Not be the size of a Pedaltrain Novo 32
5. Be affordable, and relatively easy to find

The closest I can find is the old Tech 21 Character Series Deluxe pedals - VT Bass, Blonde and Liverpool. I had a VT Deluxe, but the V1 does not have speaker sim defeat. Those three pedals don’t have modern voicing, and they aren’t explicitly marketed as being able to do both, but I have had the VT and Blonde Deluxe pedals, and I know they work. I want other options, though; I’m not averse to Tech 21, but someone else might have the better product for my needs.

Thank you.

Have you tried the boss modelers? The GT1000 core might be what you're looking for.
yeah, you're gonna crap on it because digital sucks but have you actually given one a shot?
You're asking for a ton of analog in a size and price range that only digital can offer.
 
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+1 for EBS MicroBass 3
 
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I thought Two Notes ReVolt (5. all analog) but, 'most work equally beautifully with guitar and bass' ... oefff.

ReVolt bass verified go/no-go with electric guitar? I know there is a guitar dedicated version.

I absolutely love my Two Notes ReVolt. The vintage dirt channel gives me the best sound I have ever had from a preamp.

This video has demos on guitar starting around the 14:30 mark - Two Notes ReVolt Bass - on Bass & Guitar - YouTube
 
Hello, the only one which comes into my mind at the moment is Line 6 Helix (or Fractal Audio Axe FX or Kemper, but the easiest to be tweaked and used with both guitars and basses is Helix in my opinion), so why don't you think of selling all your pedals and get a Helix (LT or floor it does not matter), I have a LT and love it!
 
MicroBass 3 is a killer bass preamp. Drive on it is nothing to write home about, but having one smallish pedal with clean, drive, tuner, aux-in, headphone out, pre and post XLR out, blend knob, and a compressor is really nice.

That said, I don't suspect it will work very well for guitar. The center frequencies will be all wrong, the drive will be all wrong. Use the right tool for the job bro. You need both pedals if you don't want to use a floor processor/modeler.

Edit: Grammar is my friend...
 
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