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Double Bass Pride, Prejudice, and zombies

#182
Hmm, I've lived in and around the south a lot, and have been back in N. Mississippi for a few years now.

A few observations:
  • DFW area is not Southern. My wife is from Ft. Worth and did not realize this until she moved here.
  • I love being close to my beloved Crimson Tide Football. College Football in the SEC is second to none when it comes to a great time on gameday.
  • Living in the South makes you work to keep your beer geek cred. MS is especially abysmal with a 5% ABV Cap
  • The best thing about the people is how friendly and polite they are. The flip side is that you rarely know what people think of you because they can be nice as pie to your face and mean as a snake in how they treat you.
  • Racism is still alive and well here. However, it is more in word than deed. What PC doesn't see is that the minority population is actually closer to a majority in many counties of the deep south, and while people often are racist in speech their actions often are incongrous. It has taken me 3 years to begin to grasp this concept.
  • Southern food can be great. The catfish/ steak houses open Thurs-Sat in the South are unbelievable.
  • Fine culture, ethnic dining, and many other non-mainstream enjoyments are tough to find outside of the large cities.
  • Did you know N. Mississippi gets more annual rainfall than most of the Pacific Northwest? Neither did I.
 
#183
A few comments:
Monte said:
Hmm, I've lived in and around the south a lot, and have been back in N. Mississippi for a few years now.

A few observations:

DFW area is not Southern. My wife is from Ft. Worth and did not realize this until she moved here.
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VERY true.
Living in the South makes you work to keep your beer geek cred. MS is especially abysmal with a 5% ABV Cap
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I can get a decent selection where I'm at (Northshore of Lake Ponchartrain), but I'm considered part of the New Orleans area, so I suspect this has a lot to do with it. My friends in Hattiesburg either make the trip or brew their own.
The best thing about the people is how friendly and polite they are. The flip side is that you rarely know what people think of you because they can be nice as pie to your face and mean as a snake in how they treat you.
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I agree here for the most part. I've found the most endearing part of this to be how strangers treat you.
Racism is still alive and well here. However, it is more in word than deed. What PC doesn't see is that the minority population is actually closer to a majority in many counties of the deep south, and while people often are racist in speech their actions often are incongrous. It has taken me 3 years to begin to grasp this concept.
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I've noticed that the words seem to flow easier here, but I was quite surprised how transplanted coworkers from the North fell into the same pattern...leading me to believe that regions only vary on how "open" they are about their feelings on race.
Southern food can be great. The catfish/ steak houses open Thurs-Sat in the South are unbelievable.
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I absolutely love the food here, but I'm not sure I could survive if I couldn't get my regular fresh seafood.
Fine culture, ethnic dining, and many other non-mainstream enjoyments are tough to find outside of the large cities.
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holy crap you aren't lying.
Did you know N. Mississippi gets more annual rainfall than most of the Pacific Northwest? Neither did I.
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That's a new one on me. Thanks.

Mike
 
#184
On the Racism thing. Iv'e met more than one person here in Oregon who don't believe racism exists in this current age.

When faced with this statment in conversation I have become flusterd. My brain gets twisted up trying to understand what combination of events can give someone this worldview.

I think in both cases the best thing I could eventually think to say was, "You gotta get out of Oregon more."


I went to school with a guy from Clarksdale, MS. My experieince with him jives with what y'all are saying.
 
#185
I grew up in the South, mostly Virginia and the panhandle of Florida (which has nothing to do with South Florida and/or Miami).

Although it's been many years since I've been back, the South has many good points. The food, the culture, the people and yes the history. Many people who have never lived there make huge blanket generalizations about the people. Yes, of course there was, and I would guess, there still is a virulent strain of racism in the South, but it certainly doesn't affect everyone. The first concert I ever saw when I was 13 was James Brown and The Famous Flames at Pensacola Civic Auditorium; an amazing show. It was mostly a black crowd but we were all there to enjoy Mr. Brown "The God Father of Soul". Everyone was cool with one another. I attended many many shows where the audience was color blind. We wanted to hear great music.

It was quite a culture shock to move out to California when I was a junior in high school. In the South you knew where you stood and who your friends were. In California everyone would be sort of surface friendly and say things like,"we have to get together" and then you would never hear from them again. It took me awhile to figure out who was jive and who was cool.

One last funny/sad/tragic thing about the South; there is nowhere else in our country where you can walk on battlefields from a war that almost tore this country apart and feel the ghosts of another time; nowhere else in the country that can you hear the Civil War referred to as, "The Wha of Nawthon Aggression"

Peace
 
#186
My family is from Arkansas though we moved to California. I never knew I was remotely southern until I moved to New Orleans and was amazed at how it all made sense to me. Later I lived in North Carolina and also felt very at home. The food, the warm nights, the easy approach to life and the humorous approach to it's travails. Musically it is rich in rhythm which I find sometimes lacking in the North. There is a joy to rhythm and dance that I just don't find anywhere else in the country.
 
#187
mike_v_s said:
Nah. I'm more into quality over quantity.
Mike
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Good quality water is best, IMO. Cool, clear,water. Lots of it.;)

Treyzer said:
One last funny/sad/tragic thing about the South; there is nowhere else in our country where you can walk on battlefields from a war that almost tore this country apart and feel the ghosts of another time; nowhere else in the country that can you hear the Civil War referred to as, "The Wha of Nawthon Aggression"Peace
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No sh** Sherlock.......I lived in the South as a boy in the early '60's. Arkansas. Think "Fables of Faubus".:bawl: I think the ghosts are alive in part, because some of the living in the Southern States are still angry somehow in some indirect way or another about the outcome of the Civil War. Many died then because of this aggression and the resistance to change that would be for ultimate good of all, IMHO. Horrible.

I do have good memories of living in the South, and certainly some of my favorite music and literature is of Southern origins.

As far as feeling the ghosts of aggression from another time in North America, try following the Trail of Tears sometime. The Indian Wars weren't restricted only to the South. You can feel the ghosts of that aggression everywhere in North America.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trail_of_Tears
 
#188
Kentucky is officially listed in many sources as the "gateway to the south", or sort of the "Switzerland of the midwest - neither north nor south". That may be other people's experiences, but in my own, the family could have walked straight out of "Steel Magnolias" on my mother's side. I like it here. Is it perfect? Nope. Is there racial inequality? Certainly looks like it to me, albeit a lot less than there used to be when I was young. In spite of this, I like the "southern" vibe here, the traditions of (relative to today's culture) politeness and kindness, the home cookin', and the speed of life, which seems just fast enough to get things done without feeling completely frenetic as in some of the bigger cities I've spent time in.

When I go farther down south it still feels like home, but I'm usually just too damn hot from May-September to really feel at home. Louisville gets up into the 90's and the occasional/rare 100 degree days with 400% humidity due to the river, but when I go much further south than here in the summer, it makes me wish I could take a short vacation in Greenland just to cool off before returning home. As far as Mississippi, Nawlins, Texas, etc. ... fuggeddaboudit for me and my family. Ya'll need outdoor AC!
 
#189
Some of my favorites over time have been:

The Last Picture Show

Wise Blood

Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil

The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly

Night of the Hunter

Down By Law

Mississippi Burning

O Brother, Where Art Thou?
 
#190
This was just sent to me recently from a southern friend. It's is a fine example of southern humor. Doubt it will offend anybody but if it does take it up with the OPH: (Office of the Perpetually Humorless):cool:

ATLANTA AIRPORT -


You've got to love this one even if you've never lived in the South. Some of you will enjoy this more than others.. Southerners can be so polite!

Atlanta ATC: "Tower to Saudi Air 511 -- You are cleared to land eastbound on runway 9R."

Saudi Air: "Thank you, Atlanta ATC. Acknowledge cleared to land on infidel's runway 9R - Allah be Praised."

Atlanta ATC: "Tower to Iran Air 711 --You are cleared to land westbound on runway 9R."

Iran Air: "Thank you, Atlanta ATC. We are cleared to land on infidel's runway 9R. - Allah is Great.."

Pause...

Saudi Air: " ATLANTA ATC - ATLANTA ATC"

Atlanta ATC: "Go ahead, Saudi Air 511."

Saudi Air: "YOU HAVE CLEARED BOTH OUR AIRCRAFTS FOR THE SAME RUNWAY GOING IN OPPOSITE DIRECTIONS. WE ARE ON A COLLISION COURSE. INSTRUCTIONS, PLEASE."

Atlanta ATC: "Well bless your hearts. And praise Jesus. Y'all be careful now and tell Allah "hey" for us -- "







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#193
I grew up all over. Six grade schools in six years, etc. Above, below, and west of the Mason Dixon.

I couldn't care less about where somebody is from. Ethnocentrism, self-centeredness, fear, love, generosity, and faith seem to transcend all borders and categories.

I would say that living in the NE makes me miss routine Southern manners from time to time. Especially when I get teased for saying "sir" or "m'am" to strangers. On the other hand, manners matter less than sincerity, and Yankees have their own code of manners and conduct, which can be equally charming, so who really cares? My 2c.
 
#194
Where else but the South will you hear phrases like;

Hey = Hello
bowl = boil
ol = oil

Ya'll come back
Hotter than a June Bride in a Feather bed
Busier than a one legged man in a a$$ kickin contest

An many more that are very funny but unprintable in a family type forum

Ya'll have a nice day:cool:
 
#199
Treyzer said:
I grew up in the South, mostly Virginia and the panhandle of Florida (which has nothing to do with South Florida and/or Miami).

Although it's been many years since I've been back, the South has many good points. The food, the culture, the people and yes the history. Many people who have never lived there make huge blanket generalizations about the people. Yes, of course there was, and I would guess, there still is a virulent strain of racism in the South, but it certainly doesn't affect everyone. The first concert I ever saw when I was 13 was James Brown and The Famous Flames at Pensacola Civic Auditorium; an amazing show. It was mostly a black crowd but we were all there to enjoy Mr. Brown "The God Father of Soul". Everyone was cool with one another. I attended many many shows where the audience was color blind. We wanted to hear great music.

It was quite a culture shock to move out to California when I was a junior in high school. In the South you knew where you stood and who your friends were. In California everyone would be sort of surface friendly and say things like,"we have to get together" and then you would never hear from them again. It took me awhile to figure out who was jive and who was cool.

One last funny/sad/tragic thing about the South; there is nowhere else in our country where you can walk on battlefields from a war that almost tore this country apart and feel the ghosts of another time; nowhere else in the country that can you hear the Civil War referred to as, "The Wha of Nawthon Aggression"

Peace
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I don't disagree with this, though I would have said 'almost'
because of the Battle of Gettysburg, Adams County, PA,
July1-3, 1863.


Eric Swanson said:
I grew up all over. Six grade schools in six years, etc. Above, below, and west of the Mason Dixon.

I couldn't care less about where somebody is from. Ethnocentrism, self-centeredness, fear, love, generosity, and faith seem to transcend all borders and categories.

I would say that living in the NE makes me miss routine Southern manners from time to time. Especially when I get teased for saying "sir" or "m'am" to strangers. On the other hand, manners matter less than sincerity, and Yankees have their own code of manners and conduct, which can be equally charming, so who really cares? My 2c.
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I got a chuckle out of this. I been looking for a few Yankees
around here. All I seem to find is Italians, Portuguese, Hispanics,
and imbedded French Canadians. I have found
three Icelanders here but that is just a statistical anomaly.
One more and we will start a club - Icelandic American Society of RI.
Consider it a chapter of The Ancient Order.

There are rumors there are people called 'Swamp Yankees' in RI, but by definition they have neither left the state nor ventured to the Northern reaches of RI, such as Providence.

Given the number of pickup trucks with beer cans in the bed,
double wide trailers, cars up on blocks and their southerly
location (South County) in the state, I have come to suspect these are
actually transplanted Southerners rather than real Yankees.

My 2c y'all.
 
#200
Holy War said:
Abraham Lincoln was born on February 12, 1809, to Thomas Lincoln and Nancy Hanks, two farmers, in a one-room log cabin on the 348-acre (1.4 km2) Sinking Spring Farm, in southeast Hardin County, Kentucky[3] (now part of LaRue County), making him the first president born in the west. Lincoln was not given a middle name.[4] His ancestor Samuel Lincoln had arrived in Hingham, Massachusetts from England in the 17th century.[5] His grandfather, also named Abraham Lincoln, had moved to Kentucky, where he owned over 5,000 acres (20 km2), and was ambushed and killed by an Indian raid in 1786.

Lincoln began his political career in March 1832 at age 23 when he announced his candidacy for the Illinois General Assembly. He was esteemed by the residents of New Salem, but he didn't have an education, powerful friends, or money. The centerpiece of his platform was the undertaking of navigational improvements on the Sangamon River. Before the election he served as a captain in a company of the Illinois militia during the Black Hawk War, although he never saw combat. Lincoln returned from the militia after a few months and was able to campaign throughout the county before the August 6 election. At 6 feet 4 inches (1.93 m), he was tall and "strong enough to intimidate any rival." At his first political speech, he grabbed a man accosting a supporter by his "neck and the seat of his trousers", and threw him. When the votes were counted, Lincoln finished eighth out of thirteen candidates (only the top four were elected), but he did manage to secure 277 out of the 300 votes cast in the New Salem precinct.
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Didn't he grow pot and responsible for America's largest public hanging of all time by hanging 38 Native Americans including a 9 year old boy? I would get a new idol!

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