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#321
caeman said:
I have never been able to understand Australian pricing of music and tech items. It doesn't seem to make sense.
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I doesn't make sense to me either. I was able to buy my Rickenbacker from a US retailer, pay US$235.00 or so in freight, plus 10% Tax (GST), plus Customs inspection fees and still end up paying about AUS$1,000 less than if I had bought one from a music shop here in Aus.

And what a beautiful bass it is, even though it was made offshore.
 
#322
caeman said:
I have never been able to understand Australian pricing of music and tech items. It doesn't seem to make sense.
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You're tellin me!

The worst things IMO are cables, straps, gigbags etc, because you can buy an amp/bass from the US on ebay, pay a decent amount of postage, but it'll still be cheaper than buying it here.

But on those smaller items, when the postage is added, it's double the price. So either way, I'm gonna pay ~x2 for said items.
 
#323
I owned the ultrabass 300 head, gigged it for maybe 3 times a week for 3 years (from when it came out to when they upgraded to the 450 head). Never ever did the thing let me down, it was a pretty decent piece of equipment. And even bck then, there was some guy at the FDP forum stating that the ashdown mag series were made in the same facilities as the behringer.

Nowadays I play a vintage svt... and if you ever took out the svt out of its cabinet, you´d know that there is nowhere ner 2 grand worth of wiring and electronics in there. If behringer ever made an svt, it would cost close to 800 bucks and be just as good.

Nothing but love here for behringer.
 
#324
Behringer's MUSIC group files US suit against Peavey

Gary Cooper Apr 29 2011, 1:02pm
MUSIC group claims seven out of ten Peavey products breach US rules

Uli Behringer's MUSIC Group has filed suit in the U.S. District Court against Peavey Electronic Corporation for "false advertising, false patent marking and unfair competition". The suit is based on Peavey's alleged "intentional mislabeling of its products in the U.S. market."

In a statement issued on 28th April, The MUSIC Group says: "An on-going investigation by the MUSIC Group revealed that Peavey's products are not labeled in accordance with U.S. patent laws and FCC regulations. Evidence obtained from an independent certified testing lab shows that 7 out of 10 Peavey products tested emit electromagnetic radiation in excess of current government standards."

Senior Vice President of Marketing Costa Lakoumentas commented that "The MUSIC Group has invested millions of dollars in comprehensive testing and compliance labs and in quality control programs to ensure its products are in full compliance with all regulatory standards. Additionally, we also go well beyond the requirements of U.S. regulations by certifying our products through the UL Safety Standards process; thus ensuring our products are safe for consumers.

Compliance with federal regulations and safety are top priorities in the MUSIC Group, and we expect other companies in the market place to take these matters as seriously as we do."

The statement continues: "The mislabeling lawsuit against Peavey, with its implications on compliance with government laws and FCC regulations, could have a staggering impact on the pro-audio and lighting industries where independent testing has shown a number of product sold by various manufacturers in the U.S. market are non-compliant. Companies that bypass regulatory testing don't only break the law, they create potential risks for consumers and create an unfair competitive advantage over manufacturers who spend on testing fees and expensive, compliance-relevant components. Under the law, distributors and dealers who sell non-compliant products are also held liable and face stiff fines and other sanctions."

MI Pro will report Peavey's response as soon as we have been able to contact the company for a statement.

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#326
Behringer got a speeding ticket, and it's fair others should also.

FCC and FTC just don't watch MI industry. Somebody blew the whistle on Behringer. Behringer spent a bundle on US regulations, even after they past CE. I'm sure Behringer bought some of Peaveys and other manufacturers gear and measured in their own labs that they had to build to meet FCC compliance. Behringer probably notified the FCC, and FCC didn't act. So they have the right to sue. FCC can still issue fines, and they might.

Consumers can sue also. Anybody who bought gear that doesn't meeting government regulations can sue the manufacturer.

I predict this won't go to court, but Peavey, and others will agree to be held to the same standards Behringer meets.

I hope eventually US requires ROHS. It's a good thing needed to allow safe recycling of out of date and unused gear.
 
#327
seamonkey said:
Behringer got a speeding ticket, and it's fair others should also.

FCC and FTC just don't watch MI industry. Somebody blew the whistle on Behringer. Behringer spent a bundle on US regulations, even after they past CE. I'm sure Behringer bought some of Peaveys and other manufacturers gear and measured in their own labs that they had to build to meet FCC compliance. Behringer probably notified the FCC, and FCC didn't act. So they have the right to sue. FCC can still issue fines, and they might.

Consumers can sue also. Anybody who bought gear that doesn't meeting government regulations can sue the manufacturer.
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Can they? Do these regulatory statutes provide for private causes of action to enforce alleged violations?
 
#328
Febs said:
Can they? Do these regulatory statutes provide for private causes of action to enforce alleged violations?
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I'm no lawyer, but if they bought Peavey gear in the US, and then found it to not meet US regulations, then I expect that it's within reason that they be able to sue.

I would think, If you bought anything, that had US labels of compliance but you measure it and found that it didn't, then you should be able to sue.

Better products for us consumers without deceptive labeling.
 
#330
seamonkey said:
I'm no lawyer, but if they bought Peavey gear in the US, and then found it to not meet US regulations, then I expect that it's within reason that they be able to sue.

I would think, If you bought anything, that had US labels of compliance but you measure it and found that it didn't, then you should be able to sue.

Better products for us consumers without deceptive labeling.
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So the answer to my question is that you have absolutely no idea and you are just guessing.
 
#332
seamonkey said:
My guess is as good as those that have guessed that Behringer has payed out on settlements.

Again I predict this won't go to court. It will be settled. Now which side will pay. We won't know, but I can guess Peavey will start meeting US labeling and compliance standards.
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It's not a guess. B has paid out settlements.

Sounds like sour grapes to me. B got caught, so now they are trying to catch others. My guess.....dismissed.
 
#334
I have a BEHRINGER ULTRABASS BX1200, i play alot on it, and give many gigs, and it never let me down.
you guys have to see that the price is low so you dont have to espect alot of quality.
i'm thinking on buy new gear and i'm thinking on buy this head Behringer Ultrabass BVT-4500H Head MSD. BEHRINGER IT'S NOW THE TOP OF BASS LINE PRODUCTS BUT IT'S CHEAP, AND THE SOUND ITS NOT THAT BAD.
 
#339
I have been using Behringer EP amps for 8 years and have never had one issue with them and I have run them hard. I have run my sub amps at 4ohm bridged and my monitor amp at 2ohms stereo all day long without issue. Never had one failure, never had one shut off due to thermal overheating even running them all day outside in the sun. I purchased a DCX2496 crossover a few years back and that has also performed flawlessly.

I don't buy anything from them unless it has been out for a while and the feedback is good. I have never had any bad experiences with their products but I have heard horror stories which is why I wait to hear the feedback on them first. That said I also don't buy from any other company until the product has been out for as while and I hear good feedback on it.
 
#340
Edward619 said:
BEHRINGER IT'S NOW THE TOP OF BASS LINE PRODUCTS BUT IT'S CHEAP, AND THE SOUND ITS NOT THAT BAD.
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cheezewiz said:
Hardly a ringing endorsement.
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Agreed, but I think there is a place for such a product. For example, I like to have a rehearsal space rig. It has to be something I don't love too much to leave alone with strangers all week, and something I could easily replace if it were damaged or stolen. Really I just need it to be loud.

At one point, my rehearsal space rig was a B*******r combo. I played it dimed for 3 hours at a time once a week for a year. It held up fine. Just wasn't very loud was all. Ultimately traded it in for nickels on the dollar. But it wasn't a bad experience overall.

BEHRINGER: NOT A BAD EXPERIENCE, OVERALL TM​ :hyper:

--Bomb :bassist:
 

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