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Promoter not promoting rant...

Moloch666

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Apr 22, 2012
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Just having a rant/vent/whinge.

Two months ago the band got a call from the guy who runs the local "metal" shop, asking us to play support for one of the biggest underground metal bands to ever come out of Australia. Of course we jumped on the opportunity. We knew up front that we probably wouldn't be paid as the headline band was asking a fair bit of cash, but we were more doing it for the exposure to new people coming to see the headline act (and the possibility of supporting the headline again).

We got told that we didn't have to do any legwork on the promoting as he'd handle it all, just make sure we let our friends/fans know and post it on the band's Facebook page. Huge sigh of relief for us, not having to spend money on printing and tape - and the time to plaster flyers everywhere around town.

From here, the "promoter" (AKA guy who runs the shop) created a Facebook event for the gig. He's plastered the event all over the page for his shop and that's about it. We got downgraded on the bill as he added other higher profile bands from out of town - which we didn't really care too much about (great bands, great blokes) - but when we get told it's the headline, us and another smaller band we kinda got excited. Now we're on earlier, we're not sure if we'll get people through the door early enough to see us - or if the headline will check us out.

Fast forward a month later and a flyer has finally been created for the gig. Very basic, no effort and even used the wrong logo for our band. A couple of flyers go up around town (which I later found out our guitarist put up) and "promoter" d***head posts the event/flyer all over Facespace twice a day.

Now it's 3 days before the gig. There is still no flyer up at the venue. I can count on one hand the number of flyers up around town (those that our guitarist put up). I'm sick of seeing the gig mentioned on Facebook it's been reposted that much.

The "promoter" reckons there's going to be 180-ish punters through the door, based on the Facebook event. We know from the last big gig (that we organised) that 180 Facespace attendees equals about half that on a good day, and have tried to explain this. So far, he's managed to sell about 30 pre-sale tickets. Our big gig we had around 80 pre-sold before the day.

We've questioned him repeatedly regarding the lack of flyers up around town and he can only respond with some BS about how he had gotten heaps put up, but they all got taken down. We know that it's BS as our friends who work in town haven't seen a single flyer anywhere. We've pushed him to get more flyers out and he assures us it'll be done.

So we've got a high profile gig coming up that nobody knows about, we're not getting paid for, and we're not likely to get any exposure.

Then, there's all the other crap going on with "promoter" guy being completely stupid with booking guys to run the PA, forgetting to organise a PA for the second stage and telling the other bands they can use our gear without consulting us.

Our plan is to rock up, play our arses off to whoever shows up and proceed to get as many free drinks as we can into us and enjoy the other bands.

Rant over. Thanks for reading.
 
Yep, it sucks. You need to make the best of it.

It's pretty clear that the promoter wasn't really handling it from the get go though, so I'm not sure why you expected that he would step it up. You guys should still have done your own promoting. You mention there is no flyer at the venue, why not post them up yourselves?

I also wouldn't worry about the headliner checking you guys out or not, they probably wouldn't no matter what time you were going on.
 
Thanks kind TBers.
Will post back after the gig with what the turnout was actually like...

The usual promotion for us is pretty simple really, nothing terribly fancy - PLASTER THE DAMN FLYER UP EVERYWHERE PEOPLE WILL SEE IT, rinse, repeat. That idea seems to been completely forgotten by this guy though...
 
This is too funny. The OP knows exactly what to do but is waiting for the promoter to do it because it's the promoter's job.

Sorry, but this is a huge problem today - everyone is waiting for the other guy to do "it" and as a result nobody does anything.

+1
I dont know if Ive ever seen a "promoter" actually do anything other than post online, and maybe in the venue.
 
Hahahaha yeah, don't worry - we realise that we could have gone and done all the promoting ourselves. Promoter guy told us we didn't need to worry about it, so we didn't - and now it's a few days before the gig and nothing has been done!
 
Promoter guy told us we didn't need to worry about it, so we didn't - and now it's a few days before the gig and nothing has been done!

How do you know that a promoter / manager / club owner is lying? Their lips are moving. Unless I've worked with them before and know their word is good, I always assume they are lying and won't do a thing they promise. 41 years in the music business has made me cynical.
 
How do you know that a promoter / manager / club owner is lying? Their lips are moving.

I had a good laugh at that. :D

This guy has helped in the past with some of the gigs our guitarist has run - getting the word out and getting kids who come into the shop to do flyers, but it seems he can't do the same job for a gig he's meant to be running.

I don't think we'll be doing gigs for him again. :\
 
No one has mentioned this:

You won't be getting PAID???????

You're going to play a show where acts are being paid, and you are NOT being paid?


I guess I just don't understand this.

In the OP it says "probably won't get paid..."

I was never paid well in an originals band. If we were paid at all it was after we sold all the tickets, or barely enough to cover the gas between all the guys in the band to get to the venue.
 
Just because you're told not to worry about promo doesn't mean you shouldn't. I've made that mistake before. Get out there and poster the town if the gig actually means that much to your band.

+1

I promote every gig equally (some more equal than others!).
Regardless of how much promotion will be done by anyone else, I, at a very minimum, hit up the same channels for every gig.