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PRS basses

I just bought a used PRS bass from the Guitar Center Store in Nashville. I have to say I love the darn thing! It's like the best maple board Jazz Bass I've ever owned. It's clear, full, it sings, the pickups blend well in all proportions, and both pickups sound good soloed. The bridge pickup is strong and the neck pickup is not boomy. The pickups also retain their high end when you turn them down. The neck is a pleasure, very even, and very little in the way of dead spots. It's lightweight and balanced. I recorded some stuff tonight at home and it sounds awesome!

I had tried the bass and had a very favorable impression, but I read through this post and others and the PRS basses got very mixed reviews. I agree that the active circuit has limited use. It's good for slap, but not much else. Also, it adds too much gain (I wonder if there's a way to attenuate the output?) so you've got to turn down before engaging it. I guess I'll think of it as a "slap switch" rather than usable active EQ :) But I have to totally disagree with whoever said that it sounds "lifeless" or "sterile". I think the tone is beautiful, it almost has a slightly active sheen to the tone while still being passive. Maybe some people are disappointed because they're expecting a more modern active bass, but as a high-end Jazz-style bass, I'd say it rocks! I'm glad I trusted my impressions and didn't let the talking heads sway me. :rollno:

They are a sweet bass 100%.
It's my main go to bass for a 4 string. And to be honest, it's been pretty much my main bass since I got it.
I play a 4 every chance I can.
Love mine.

I have my sound worked out for recording youtube clips, so I was gonna post up some clear-er ones this week.
Now I may do it tomorrow!

Oh, by the way, per- TB rules.....no pic, no bass!
 
Played quite a few. Overpriced, average tone (single coil passive, but not particularly vintage), average fit and finish for the price. IMO and IME (there are a couple of dealers in St. Louis, so I've played 4 or 5 of them).

PRS never quite got their bass product right IMO.

I would not bother with the current model (if it is still being made... I don't think it is).

Indeed, while the OP's playing is insane, the tone does absolutely nothing for me. I don't know if the one below (seen at NAMM) sounds any better, but at least it's decent looking. They need to bring someone aboard who knows bass inside and out, then produce a bass that looks like one of their guitars.

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Imagine if PRS had put the effort into their early basses so that they were comparable with their guitars?

For that matter, a number of high-end instrument makers have both guitar and bass models. But how many are really great at - and are known for being great at - both?
 
I don't really look for all sorts of bells and whistles on a bass. It's all about the resonance and responsiveness of the instrument -- you can tell a lot about a bass even before you plug it in. A simple design like a P or J bass can run the gamut from amazing to terrible, and at least 75% is the wood, the weight, and the balance between the neck and body. The best electronics in the world won't help if the instrument doesn't have it in the first place. The PRS bass, at least the one I have, is first rate. I think the pickups are excellent too. Maybe he could have designed that preamp differently to give more control. My impression is that the preamp circuit is really voiced for slapping, and it's quite good for that. It's just a little odd to make a tone circuit that's either on or off :confused: But in the end I don't really care, because just as a passive Jazz-style bass, it's great.
 
Roger Sadowsky, for one.


Right, and I know I'm getting OT here. My point is that there some, but not a lot who are killer at both... but are they also well-recognized as such? Sadowsky makes guitars and they are probably awesome but I'd be surprised if they are 50% of his sales.

Which I guess is the point of being high-end... you have a market that you specialize in and while you can branch out to other instruments and have success (or not) it seems to be a rare thing to be able to satisfy multiple markets at a high level.
 
Indeed, while the OP's playing is insane, the tone does absolutely nothing for me. I don't know if the one below (seen at NAMM) sounds any better, but at least it's decent looking. They need to bring someone aboard who knows bass inside and out, then produce a bass that looks like one of their guitars.

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WOW!!!
I've always loved that color.
That's a great looking bass right there!

Right, and I know I'm getting OT here. My point is that there some, but not a lot who are killer at both... but are they also well-recognized as such? Sadowsky makes guitars and they are probably awesome but I'd be surprised if they are 50% of his sales.

Which I guess is the point of being high-end... you have a market that you specialize in and while you can branch out to other instruments and have success (or not) it seems to be a rare thing to be able to satisfy multiple markets at a high level.

Dunno about a lot of others who do real well at both.
Sadowsky as mentioned, is renowned for his hollowbody "Jazz boxes" as well as his nylon string acoustic/electrics.

I have a good friend of mine who builds uber high end acoustic guitars- like $6K and up and he knows Roger real well. He didn't even know Roger made basses.
 
This is my new PRS bass (sorry for the crappy cell-phone pic). This bass is the best thing since sliced bread, IMO. I've had it for three days and like it more and more. Unbelieveably resonant and responsive, the best sounding "Jazz" bass I've ever owned. Yes, the active preamp circuit is a strange concept, whatever. (it's good for slap) The bass is awesome!

I had one of these (rosewood board) I got new for $1100 from a store I'd worked at that wanted to unload it. This is the only PRS I've ever played but it was such a good bass I could never understand people knocking them the way they seem to. Definitely right up there on my sorry I sold it list.
 
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This is my new PRS bass (sorry for the crappy cell-phone pic). This bass is the best thing since sliced bread, IMO. I've had it for three days and like it more and more. Unbelieveably resonant and responsive, the best sounding "Jazz" bass I've ever owned. Yes, the active preamp circuit is a strange concept, whatever. (it's good for slap) The bass is awesome!

I remember seeing that on the GC site.
Nice score!!!!!
 
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This is my new PRS bass (sorry for the crappy cell-phone pic). This bass is the best thing since sliced bread, IMO. I've had it for three days and like it more and more. Unbelieveably resonant and responsive, the best sounding "Jazz" bass I've ever owned. Yes, the active preamp circuit is a strange concept, whatever. (it's good for slap) The bass is awesome!

Would love to check that thing out.
 
Hey good forum folks:

Here is my PRS, it's serial number #11. Paul and John Ingram built me #7 but the neck warped and they loaned me #11, which I refused to give back because I didn't want to wait another year. Basically they are twins. #11 had a more rounded neck with more wood, and a darker piece of highly figured honduras mahogany, which also made it a bit heavier than #7. Much more about the bass and the article from Vintage Guitar Magazine are posted here:

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And if you keep scrolling you will see the rest of the collection.

Cheers,

Basshappy
 

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It's really good, still plays like a dream and sounds really nice, very woody, and with the 9 position switch on the Hi A there is an amazing variety of tones.

In those early days, Paul would hang up his honduras mahogany body and neck blanks and strike them with a wooden mallet. If they didn't ring for at least 10 seconds he wouldn't use it.

Same wood as high quality marimbas are made of.

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It's really good, still plays like a dream and sounds really nice, very woody, and with the 9 position switch on the Hi A there is an amazing variety of tones.

In those early days, Paul would hang up his honduras mahogany body and neck blanks and strike them with a wooden mallet. If they didn't ring for at least 10 seconds he wouldn't use it.

Same wood as high quality marimbas are made of.

Basshappy

Ah, you speak to this former percussionist. Sounds like you have something special there!
 
I own one of the new generation Gary Grainger basses. I play around DC with some of the PRS band guys and they hooked me up. It's a great bass. I'm on the second generation preamp since the first round ate 9 volts like crazy.

The item of interest on this picture was the insect and not the bass but you'll get an idea anyway.
 

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I own one of the new generation Gary Grainger basses. I play around DC with some of the PRS band guys and they hooked me up. It's a great bass. I'm on the second generation preamp since the first round ate 9 volts like crazy.

The item of interest on this picture was the insect and not the bass but you'll get an idea anyway.

I think I would crap myself if I ever had the chance to get one!
LOL!!!
(the bass, not the bug!)
 
I happen to own one of the very early 1986 PRS's, it is nothing fancy but at the time it was considered a special order because, they only did maple fretboard as a special order and not off the shelf, I wanted it to be as plain as possible, didn't want a fancy maple top, so I went for a more traditional look of a plain colour (seafoam green or surf green whatever you wish to call it), it is a bolt on model, one they called the Bass 4 BO (Bolt On) C.E. (Classic Electric)

Nothing has been changed to it, I still keep it as original and mint as the day it came 25 years ago, same preamp, I actually like the sound of it a lot, it has the most comfortable neck shape I have ever played, the string spacing is just right for me, it allows me to play fast and without any stress. The maple neck original coating worn out quite a bit in the first 8 years of intense use, but the frets never actually worn out that much! I had the neck re-stained by professionals to its former glory, and it looks fantastic after the work, I didn't like the exposed maple so I got it all cleaned and sanded before it was resprayed. The body colour is still original, never been touched, I look after my basses well and it still has no dents or scratches but if you hold it against the light you can see that the paint has sunk into the wood grain but it's character more than a defect.


The preamp adds bass and clear they described this preamp as follows:

From the PRS website:
PRS BASS ELECTRONICS (1987-1991)
5 Position Rotary-Hybrid Pickup System ROTARY POSITIONS
■Position 10: Middle pickup
■Position 9: Bass pickup
■Position 8: Treble and middle pickups
■Position 7: Treble and bass pickups
■Position 6: Treble pickup
CONTROLS
■Volume: Self explanatory
■Deep Control: Adds depth below normal "Bass"
■Clear Control: Adds clarity, not fret noise
■Pre-Amp Bypass Switch: If the battery goes dead (approx. 200 hours life), you can still play
■Internal Jack Switch: Unplug jack cord to turn off battery

When you read it like that you know exactly what you can expect from the preamp so no reason really for people to complain, the preamp was never designed to give extra power or an extra dimension of sounds. I find that if you use your amp settings to get the best out of the bass with it being flat then when you are on stage or in a studio you can rely on those two Deep and Clear tones to give you a little edge over the preset amp sound.

What is remarkable about these earlier PRS basses is that they are very well balanced, the body is very compact, sizewise, and from a distance if you see (see pic below) it next to other basses you would think it's a short scale bass, but the scale is still a honest 34" so it's no shortie for shure, all you really need to do is use a good amp with it.

An earlier Trace Elliot (pictured below) is the ticket for me, the combination of the tube preamp / solid state power amp and a 12 band graphic eq seems to enhance every note on this instrument and really works fine with it.

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At the time I ordered the bass I used to know Paul Reed Smith personally because I used to work in the London guitar store of which the owner was the first distributor of PRS guitars in UK and I was lucky that Paul used to come on several occasion to meet the boss and potential clients and also to do shows, I was the only bass player in that shop and got to test his original basses and showcase them to the first unsuspecting british public! :D

Well thanks to this acquaintance with Paul, he was happy to sign my bass both on the back of the headstock and on the back control cover.

I have since moved on in all kinds of direction with my basses, but I still keep and treasure this one PRS bass because it has an incredible voice and a "soul" within it that only those who have played this particular bass have come to realize and comment on it with the customary "WOW"

I believe the success of this particular combo is the alder body with a bolt on neck as opposed to the more expensive mahogany body with fixed / glued in mahogany neck they use to offer at the time which to me was great too but didn't have the sparkle that the bolt on model has. I think ordering a whole maple neck/fingerboard was a great move.

I love this bass and it will never leave my site.

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Hey Fran, the preamp on the newer PRS basses, like mine... Are junk.

Well, you know I woulnd't exactly call it junk.

Let's see... from 1986 to 2011 we are technologically light years ahead of what PRS had at their disposal, and one must not forget that Paul Reed Smith is a guitar player himself, admittedly he told me he doesn't know (or he didn't back then) what bass players really want hence he designed a circuitry that was aimed as a non tone control with the desire to add bass and mid to a natural passive tone.

That he somewhat achieved.

Also throughout the many years I've owned it, a lot of guitar techs friends of mine have suggested to fit a different preamp in it, someone suggested an alembic and someone even an EMG one, but I decided against it.

As I've said the character of this bass is in what it is, you might change something for the better at the risk to lose what you started with.

I'd rather keep it as it is, after all... you could say... I've got one or two other basses which can destroy small countries. :D

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