"Punk Is Dead"

[GodPlayedBass]

In light of the current state of the world, i can see why people say punk is dead. You see we have this generation of people calling themselves punk, but they do everything that is NOT punk. An example would be following orders from authority. I firmly believe that you cannot do both and expect your material to ever come out sounding like real punk rock. Lets argue.

 

[buldog5151bass]

I think most people who themselves "punk" were always posers. A bad haircut, a spiked leather jacket, and a sullen facial expression is most of what you have always seen. People who don't follow authority are called convicts.

 

[bholder]

Meh, I don't feel like arguing.

 

[GregC]

Hmmm, maybe this thread is for me: Are you ever ashamed of other fans of a genre you enjoy?

 

[Guild B301]

If you were not around when punk rock started - it was merely a challenge to the establishment music industry in the mid ‘70s, which had become lame and boring and followed a pop formula. Not fresh and exciting like Elvis, Eddie Cochran, or Gene Vincent. It achieved its goal by ‘79. It died by the time it became defined by safety pins in the early 80s. Anything else is not true punk

 

[El Güero]

Okay, punk is dead. Does it stink any more now than when it was alive?

 

[S-Bigbottom]

but they do everything that is NOT punk.

If you lived everything punk YOU would be Dead.

P.S. Signing up at a chat site automatically revokes your punk card.

< Turns back up his Chaos UK after turning it down for a brief break to write this post.

 

[48thStreetCustom]

There's an excellent 3-part BBC documentary on YouTube called Punk Britannia.
E1 "Pre-Punk: 1972-1976" (pub rock, Dr Feelgood, Ducks Deluxe, Eddie and the Hotrods, etc)
E2 "Punk: 1976-1978" (Sex Pistols, Clash, Sham 69, etc)
E3 "Post-Punk: 1978-1981" (Joy Division, Public Image Ltd, the Slits, the Specials, etc).

 

[Lagado]

"Punks don’t like to hear it but they and Mrs. Thatcher were both on the coattails of something bigger, which was the rise of individualism where we could be whatever we wanted to be,” he explains. “The Sex Pistols’ song ‘I Wanna Be Me’ came at the same time as a speech by Mrs. Thatcher that had pretty much the same message."

Adam Curtis.

I'm with Curtis.

"Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?"

 

[JimmyM]

I say whatever. Music is good or bad, and labels are for marketers.

 

[Guitalia]

Punk died after the first two Ramones albums (and the first Dictators album). The beginning of the end was the first album by the Sex Pistols, who were the punk Monkees, assembled by Malcolm McLaren after seeing the Ramones and realizing that he could make some money by ripping off their sound.

But at least the Pistols got that punk was supposed to be a joke, unlike the dead-serious bands that came after, like the Clash and the rest. Taking punk seriously it as anti-punk as it gets.

I got your punk right here ("I . . . drink Coca-Cola for breakfast . . . "):



" . . . Beatin' up the kids from Spain . . ."

 

[Yango]

 

[4001]

You see we have this generation of people calling themselves punk, but they do everything that is NOT punk.

We also have a generation of people with beards that make themselves look like lumberjacks but in reality they couldn't swing an axe for more than a minute.

 

[JW56789]

Remembering some punk band member's complaint about 'old geezers like Zeppelin', I have only two words for this conversation: Dread Zeppelin.



Half-ass reggae, snappy wardrobe, and some sort of Elvis fronting the players. Playing at the St. Joseph's CYO this Satur . . . . . . whoops, cancelled.

 

[ELG60]

I think most people who themselves "punk" were always posers. A bad haircut, a spiked leather jacket, and a sullen facial expression is most of what you have always seen. People who don't follow authority are called convicts.

Correction: Arguably, people who don't follow authority are called criminals (I would argue that nonconformists is perhaps a more accurate term).

People who do so poorly (or unluckily) are called convicts.

 

[bolophonic]

If you lived everything punk YOU would be Dead.

P.S. Signing up at a chat site automatically revokes your punk card.

< Turns back up his Chaos UK after turning it down for a brief break to write this post.

I was listening to Chaos UK this afternoon!


I was also jamming out to this today. I love 80’s hardcore. The drums on this are so good.

 

[48thStreetCustom]

Punk died after the first two Ramones albums (and the first Dictators album). The beginning of the end was the first album by the Sex Pistols, who were the punk Monkees, assembled by Malcolm McLaren after seeing the Ramones and realizing that he could make some money by ripping off their sound.

But at least the Pistols got that punk was supposed to be a joke, unlike the dead-serious bands that came after, like the Clash and the rest. Taking punk seriously it as anti-punk as it gets.

I got your punk right here ("I . . . drink Coca-Cola for breakfast . . . "):



" . . . Beatin' up the kids from Spain . . ."

Dude, if you think punk died after the Ramones and the Dictators albums, you're missing out on a LOT of great music.

 

[LuckyScott]

Its Dead again??????

I was a fan in the 70's. Music is just music. Nothing dies. Somewhere someone is rocking out to Frankie Avalon.

 

[brianrost]

Punk is just a state of mind. It was around long before the Sex Pistols and Ramones (or even the 60s garage bands). The Dictators (mentioned above) were a comedy band and a great one at that, not punks...I loved that first album. The toruble with punk is that once you get to the point of thinking you're punk you aren't punk any more.

Cleoma Falcon started playing guitar and singing with her accordion playing husband Joe in the late 1920s in heavily Catholic Louisiana. In those days a woman playing dance music in barrooms was scandalous, no better than a hooker. Now that's punk!

 

[El Güero]

...the Sex Pistols, who were the punk Monkees...

LOL Sometimes the truth hurts, sometimes it makes you laugh.