PYPB 44: ...like Tetris with boxes, wires and cables

[Rneckties31]

The only thing better than that Duke is seeing the look if terror on the sound engineer's face.

This. I don't understand it. Why do so many sound engineers hate bass players who use pedals? I get that it can be hard to control and they always want a clean sound for the boomy. But one gig I played, the guy demanded a clean sound if I was going to use pedals. I asked a buddy after the gig how my tone was and he said that the sound guy never even turned my effects sound on....which is what makes my music.

 

[behndy]

yeah. that's why i don't give a clean signal.

good sound people are wonderful and beautiful to work with.

ones that don't know what they're doing or are close minded and see the bass as a four banger that has to sound like it's through an ampeg blow.

 

[gregmon79]

This. I don't understand it. Why do so many sound engineers hate bass players who use pedals? I get that it can be hard to control and they always want a clean sound for the boomy. But one gig I played, the guy demanded a clean sound if I was going to use pedals. I asked a buddy after the gig how my tone was and he said that the sound guy never even turned my effects sound on....which is what makes my music.

I think I would freak out if this happened to me. My band would too. Like you, not to toot my own horn, my bands sound/songs rely on a lot of the effects I use. Guitarist too. Between us both, we always have something going. Without them, our songs wouldn't be our songs.

 

[dunic]

Really like your board, one of the best looking boards i've seen! Like that you have a bluebox. What kind of sound do you get from it? i was wondering, because it depents a lot on the rest of you setup (bas, amp, ...) what it sounds like. i've been wanting to get one for a long time, don't know why i havent pulled the trigger yet...

Also, where did you get the board/case?

The bluebox is for an analog synthy sound. But forget playing notes below the 12th fret, it just won't track. The case is a DAP Showmaster 24.

 

[Vlad5]

Vladdy always got them clean butts.

Thanks Ben! Yeah, I likes it nice and neat. Though I see the B3K is a bit of kilter here... hmmm. I may have to retake this shot... naw... it'll change in a few days anyway.

hey vlad, have you or any of you other guys let a friend play your rig, then sat back and laughed as they couldn't turn it on? it seems to me loops and pedal setup are such a matter of personal preference or personal need. it happened to me a couple weeks ago and gave me a laugh, and i only have a pedal tuner (mute) and one loop in a ls2!

Heh, yeah once or twice. Really though it's more like friends that don't really know what my musical hobby is, then come to one of my (very infrequent) shows and think I'm like ten times cooler because I have some NASA like mission control board they can't fathom.

I had a guitar friend just drone away on my board for hours though. He made all kinds of noises out of it I never thought of. He was just mashing buttons and such, but it sounded really cool. Sometimes it helps when another player has no idea what your board is doing and tries to figure it out. Opens up new avenues of creativity and discovery. Of course, not everyone gets to touch my board.

 

[aledeville]

But one gig I played, the guy demanded a clean sound if I was going to use pedals. I asked a buddy after the gig how my tone was and he said that the sound guy never even turned my effects sound on....which is what makes my music.

What a bummer!
Have you talked to the soundguy about this?
I've mainly made good experiences with soundguys being happy that I provide a clean signal but then blend in the mainly distorted sounds. I go from clean to dirty in a manner that is either clean or clean plus dirt. One signal remains clean and the other is added or not.
Soundguys are then actually pretty happy when I tell them that they may cut the bass on the fx signal.
And you know the rule - when they are happy --> I'm loud over the PA

 

[Pastrami]

digging that pink elephant.

As am I, as am I. Great pedal, the scrambler is an under appreciated circuit.

that's hawt. MAN i love the EAR AD90328571-98.

so damn GOOD.

I know how you feel about it ben. You attempted to sell me yers on a certain superior gear forum

 

[behndy]

urf. was sad to see it go. but. it went to a good home where it'll get used more than i was using it.

 

[PunkRocker33133]

On the sound guy debate (and I'm a little biased because I play crappy punk clubs mostly) I always get issues with getting a cab mic and proceed to just turn up until I can hear myself if they're not being cooperative. My bands also use tons of effects and I just can't imagine allowing some dude's narrow idea of what bass should sound like govern my tone.

 

[crapusername]

We always use our own soundman

 

[behndy]

i mean, it's only 1 out of 15 at most that are hard headed close butt idiots. mostly i just have to say, "no thank you, i don't want to DI at all. can we please just both output cabs? no, i'd prefer not to have any clean mixed in so there's no point of a pre-efx DI." and everything's good. even if a sound human starts out going for a "traditional" mic'y approach, one explanation of why i'd prefer to mic and looking and seeing no other string players is enough for them to roll how i think it sounds better.

i think i'm lucky playing in The Yarea. even though the music scene is basically dead out here, the prevalence of bands doing silly and odd stuff does leak over to the more fun areas to play. so DO IT THE WRONG WAY soundies are more rare than the norm.

 

[Lokkenjawnz]

As am I, as am I. Great pedal, the scrambler is an under appreciated circuit.

I've been looking for a solid Scrambler clone for a while, does the Pink Elephant do a good job recreating it? What kind of bass are you using with it? I need some Scrambler in my life!

 

[JonnyAngle]

I've been looking for a solid Scrambler clone for a while, does the Pink Elephant do a good job recreating it? What kind of bass are you using with it? I need some Scrambler in my life!

I've never tried a true scrambler, but it would suck not having that volume control

 

[tympano]

My first PYPB post!

Here is my current setup, things are moving in right now...

Some incredible boards out there!

 

[Pastrami]

I've been looking for a solid Scrambler clone for a while, does the Pink Elephant do a good job recreating it? What kind of bass are you using with it? I need some Scrambler in my life!

I can't say as I've never played the original, nor do I want to - as mentioned above it doesn't have a volume control and as a result is known to suffer from a substantial volume drop, what fool would pay for it anyway? However I can tell you the pink elephent sounds excellent, and being a creepy fingers pedal built solid and clean. The octave up is very thick and synthy, doesn't have the piercing traditional octavia sound at all. Imagine you took a brassmaster and gave it some crushing high mids, more lows, and eased up on the gating. With all that being said I dime the volume on all my fuzz pedals so YMMV. Thing is dead silent cranked too... Anyway TL;DR at this point sorry for that, but yeah I haven't ever been this happy with a fuzz.

I play a P-Bass with flats into at Rusty Box which drives a Peavey 120/120 into a pair of Orange OBC115s if that helps anyone...

 

[Vlad5]

My first PYPB post!

Here is my current setup, things are moving in right now...

Some incredible boards out there!

Nice first post!

Lots of drool worthy loot there.

Of special note, that AD4096

Saving my pennies for one of those.

 

[Vlad5]

Just a little update.

Dimension is off the board and back in it's box ready to ship back to Prymaxe or to some happy TB'er.

Dispatch Master is back.

BMC is moved to ch1 to add some girth to the Hyperdrive.
It's an experiment, we'll see.

This will change slightly soon with a Context replacing the Dispatch. The reverb quest continues...

 

[tympano]

Nice first post!

Lots of drool worthy loot there.

Of special note, that AD4096

Saving my pennies for one of those.

Thanks! Just got the AD4096 in the mail today from gregmon. It is quite a piece of kit, probably the most appropriately featured delay for a bassist that I've ever played. That expand switch...

 

[Guinness20]

Nice board Vlad5! what's the lomenzo hyperdrive like compared to the darkglass b3k?

 

[Vlad5]

Nice board Vlad5! what's the lomenzo hyperdrive like compared to the darkglass b3k?

Thanks!

Actually both are very comparable.

Both do the high-midrangy drive/distortion thing very well.
The Hyperdrive is more versatile as a distortion, what with the variable Q setting for the distortion circuit.
But the B3K is more useful (for me anyway) as a drive effect since it does the full range gainy thing a little better; more low end available across most of it's settings.
The Hyperdrive will lose lowend when you crank up the gain/mix a lot, which I do.

I would consider the Hyperdrive to be a less expensive alternative to the B3K, as it can do the same basic effect.
But it's huge, and rehousing it (which I intend to do) will only reduce it's size by about 10%, if that (circuit board is huge too).
And the B3K is as mentioned, a bit more full range usable; more lowend available.

So I use both, since I like what both can do, which is basically the same thing with different parameters/control; mid range clangy drive/distortion.

The B3K is set low for overdrive, and the Hyperdrive is set high for distortion.
Combining the two makes for some interesting mid-scooped-yet-chimy distortion.