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Question about 1x15" & 4x10" cabs.

#30
I mix a 410 and a single 15" and love it, but they are biamped Peaveys that share the same design so most drawbacks listed just don't apply at all. When I recorded 2 years ago it was the same 410 for lows and a 210 on the highs, and the mic'd results were ridiculously good.
The old saying is that the best stand for a 410 is another 410, and that's where I'm going next unless one of those big and stupid-loud 2x15" Peaveys with Black Widows shows up at a good price...
 
#32
It's important to realize that the traditional old wives' tale that "15s have more bass and 10s have more punch" is simply wrong. The box tuning has as much or more to do with how a cab sounds as the driver diameter. There are 15s that are high and quite middy (for eg GK
Neo-ll, Schroeder) and Phil Jones makes cabs based on arrays of 5" drivers that go quite low. Each cab has its' own voice. The optimal way to build a rig is to find that cab/head combination you like. If you need more volume, then add another cab. Also keep in mind that published cab specs are almost never accurate/relevant. A lot of bass cabs claim a freq response that begins at 40 or 45 Hz, but in reality, the lowest frequencies are not produced at volumes sufficient for an audience to hear at gig volume.
 
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#34
Lots of people in my german bassmens community started to put the 410'' on the ground and the 115'' on top. This gives you a total different sonic experience - if the cabs are made for each other. I am talking about bassmen with a Trace Eliot or similar stacks. Ground coupling gives the 410''-cab more low end, and the 115''-cab gets nearer to your ears so it will be better heard.

For studio purposes I wold use the cab I like the most, why using the full stack? Just mike the cab you like the most, if you feel the need to get the sound of your cab. Otherwise it would be enough to use the Di of the amp, or a good DI-Box like the REDDI.

To be honest, I like it to mic my cab and mix it together with the sound of my DI-Out. There is some grind in my sound I don't want to miss on recordings.
 
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The biggest mistake I've seen, is the assumption that 15's have "a sound", and 10's have a different "sound". Truth is, they don't. You could A/B test a pair of dis-similar 115 cabs, and they would each sound different. Same with any two 410 cabs. It's not the diameter of the spkrs, it's the design of the cab. In any case, if you like to "combine" different cabs to reach an end goal, there's probably a single cab somewhere that would do the same thing, you just haven't heard it yet.
 
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#36
I finally did the deed. Very happy. Went with a Mesa PH 2x10 and 1x15. So happy, the best of both worlds for recording.

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Hey, James. Probably can't go wrong with Mesa's.
I did see Trace Elliot has a 2x10+1x15 in a cabinet. To CL400Peavey's point, I believe the 15 is separated in the box. I didn't find a lot of reviews on it.
I owned a 2x8+1x15 in the Peavey 1516 but mismatched this 200 W cab with a Hartke 3500. The Hartke always won by blowing out a few 15s.
 
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lomo said:
It's important to realize that the traditional old wives' tale that "15s have more bass and 10s have more punch" is simply wrong. The box tuning has as much or more to do with how a cab sounds as the driver diameter. There are 15s that are high and quite middy (for eg GK
Neo-ll, Schroeder) and Phil Jones makes cabs based on arrays of 5" drivers that go quite low. Each cab has its' own voice. The optimal way to build a rig is to find that cab/head combination you like. If you need more volume, then add another cab. Also keep in mind that published cab specs are almost never accurate/relevant. A lot of bass cabs claim a freq response that begins at 40 or 45 Hz, but in reality, the lowest frequencies are not produced at volumes sufficient for an audience to hear at gig volume.
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Yepper.
 
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RickenBoogie said:
The biggest mistake I've seen, is the assumption that 15's have "a sound", and 10's have a different "sound". Truth is, they don't. You could A/B test a pair of dis-similar 115 cabs, and they would each sound different. Same with any two 410 cabs. It's not the diameter of the spkrs, it's the design of the cab. In any case, if you like to "combine" different cabs to reach an end goal, there's probably a single cab somewhere that would do the same thing, you just haven't heard it yet.
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Again, yepper.
 

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