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Question about a relationship...sorry.

That's why there are such things as roommates. ;)

Nothing screams payback like kicking her out of her own dorm so you can rail her roomie.

Ha, that's an ironic part of the situation. I really liked her roomate at the begining of the year and i've heard she was digging me, but then things turned around and I started to go out with her roomate instead. Now we're both involved. Not to say I didn't like my girlfriend now when we started going out... i did. Her roomate did suite my style more though haha.
 
to all who say dump her.

you think you could dump somebody you love without getting hurt yourself?

I don't think that any of us are trying to imply that it's easy. I really do empathize with Nathan's situation. It's just that these are definite red flags and a lot of us know from experience that it almost always ends up bad. The girl I was kind of seeing before I met my current girlfriend was a grade A neurotic. Karen Horney would say that she was moving towards people and moving away from people at the same time. She just ended up being a big tease and a waste of my time. At this stage in my life (not that I'm old or anything), I just don't have time for these ambivalence games that people like Nathan's girlfriend like to play. You're either serious about our relationship or you're not. I quit selling myself short, and now I won't accept anything less than a great relationship. My girlfriend says that I made her life kind of rough when we first met by making her chase me; I even flat out told her that she had to do some chasing if she wanted to secure me as her boyfriend (for the record, I believe that there needs to be some mutual chasing ;) ). Hey, I think that I'm worth chasing. If you are the one doing all of the chasing, then you just end up chasing teases and looking like an idiot in the end. Arrogant to say? Perhaps, but confidence is a turn on for both males and females.

To quote Silent Bob: "There are millions of fine looking women in the world, but not all of them bring you lasagna at work. Most of them just cheat on you."

Silent Bob, a great thinker who should be revered amongst such minds as Plato, Sartre, and Confucious. :)
 
Talked to her again tonight. I think everythings going to work out fine. I'm on my gaurd, though.

Don't say we didn't warn you.

If I were you I would just stop talking to her and keep your distance for a while. I bet you $20 she ends up calling you and chasing after you and trying to get your attention.

You could do that, but it would be prolonging the inevitable. You're going to end up breaking up with her pretty shortly over this, i bet. She's going to cheat on you if she hasn't already. Only a matter of time.

Oh, one thing that has not been mentioned in this thread: Judge a girl by her actions more than her words. This applies to everybody, not just girls though. If she says she loves you, but then starts talking to her ex...well, I think you know the answer. If she says "oh I would never cheat" but has all these random calls from guys in her phone...that's a bit suspicious. And so on.

Girls often say one thing and then do the opposite. Their actions are obviously what they WANT to do, and their words are what they think they want you to hear.
 
I usually dislike threads about girls and relationships and all of that sort, but i'm in a situation right now where I just don't know what to do...

I've been dating this girl for about 8 months. We've had a pretty good relationship so far. I love her and she loves me. Now though, in recent conversation, it's coming out that she still has quite a bit of feeling for her ex-boyfriend. She has assured me I have nothing to worry about, but the more I think about it, the more I worry. It feels odd, ridiculous, dangerous, and pointless to hear her say "I love you" and then tell you she still has feelings for somebody from the past.

To complicate things further, we met in college. Now since it's the summer, we've both gone back to our hometowns.

I don't know what to do! I love her a lot and i'm not sure if I want to call it off or not but it feels odd at the same time! What would YOU do? Can I get some opinions/advice?

thanks,

nathan

she will more than likely sleep with her ex boyfriend this summer. if she still has feelings for him she will be an easy target for him this summer.
 
Yes, her ex is in the same town. She's said in conversation that she would have to lock herself in her room and avoid going out because she might run into him, which would probobly lead to something she would regret. I don't know how to feel about that.

see there ya go. the ex boyfriend knows it is a sure thing with her. you know he will be making a big effort to get alone with her this summer. if you were single and had a sure thing in the area wouldn't you?

sorry man i've been the ex boyfriend and the other guy many times. it sounds like this girl is an easy target.

=nathan;she just quite simply misses her ex, who was her first boyfriend ever. QUOTE]

and probably her first ....you know. yeah man they will hook up this summer. i would take those odds any day.

I mean, am I wrong to think that still missing an old ex after 8 months is a little odd? I know it's not abnormal to cling on for a little while afterwards, but 8 months is pushing it....

nope. especially if he was her first love or lay. i met a girl that was 19 or so.. i was 24. we had a little fling. i was pretty much her first everything. in the years after she came by many a times even if she had a boyfriend. she also was talking to me last week telling me she was thinking about me and what not.....she is getting married in 3 weeks.

and this girl is actually very smart and level headed...but we all know a guy can wrap a girl around his finger sometimes...sounds like this girl of yours is still wrapped.
 
So I talked to her last night and expressed my concerns. She told me she has nothing to worry about, and that it really helps that she can talk to me about things like that without me blowing up and getting angry at her. She still lets a couple statements slip out that still make me feel awkward or frusturated, but i'm pretty sure she's not 100% serious when she says them. She wants me to come visit this saturday but I don't have my car right now so I'm not sure I'll be able to. That could be a problem, but at least things are looking a little better for now.

yeah because she would tell you flat out "i'm going to cheat".

from what she has already said you have a problem man.
 
you blew off my opinion and advice the 1st time round, probably because I was a bit harsh, but I was really trying a bit of tough love... but i'm gonna have another say... :)

unlike nearly everyone here, I don't think you should dump her... what would that achieve? if you dump her, you never see her again, never **** her again, probably lose a chunk of your social circle etc... you don't give up and put your dog down if it misbehaves in predictable doggy ways, you train it... :)

what you need to do is train her to behave properly, and if necessary, downgrade her a little (see her less often, have an active social life that involves lots of other interested women, and make sure she knows about it)

at the same time it'd be great if you could let go of the big nagging problem of this 'ex bf' lurking in the wings... I suspect she's using it as a way of controlling you... the fact is, people are more easily compliant in a relationship if they believe they can be replaced... that's what she's trying to do to you, which is why you need to do it to her...

imagine how well behaved a gf would be if she knew you had 5-6 other girls interested and happy to take her place..? do you think she'd be trying to upset you with this ex bf stuff? If she really preferred her ex to you, she wouldn't be with you

hell, I'd encourage her to go see this 'ex bf'... my POV is that if ANY guy is a better prospect than myself, she's welcome to go get him (or try to.. and if any guy's good enough take my gf from me, then he has my respect, not my hate)... a confident guy believes he's the absolute best choice any girl could make

I apologise if my 1st post was a bit strongly worded, but that's my take on it...
 
wait till summer .. see how she reacts back home .. if she calls you constantly complaining about him, wanting you to be there, her to be back with you, .. then your ok .. if you don't hear from her or have strange thoughts of something going on .. something probably ended up happening some night she went out and ran into him.
 
I was in a similar situation over a year ago... girlfriend had ex from hometown, still had feelings, blah blah blah.

I let it go and she went behind my back. I forgave her and saw past it and still see her today. Heart warming, I know. But like someone mentioned above, don't dump her outright yet especially if she hangs around your social circle. If you get rid of her too soon, one of you will be ostracized from your group of friends and chances are it won't be her. Wait it out. If she cheats on you (and from what you say it is likely) wait for the opportune moment (for example, transferring to another school... in another country... with a lot of Japanese women...) and give her the boot after sending back photos of you with other women. Life is too short for all the stress.
 
First off, thanks for all the replies and advice from everyone, it's helped a lot.

For the entire time we've been going out, she's had almost no contact with her ex at all. She will bring up how awful he was sometimes, and not untill recently did she say she was missing him. Her feelings for him seem a bit psychotic though. For example, she won't eat at a particular restaraunt with me because that's where her and her ex ate together a long time ago and it would be too horrid for her.

So far, she's been in touch with me and calling me everynight. I haven't had to call her yet so I think that might be a good sign.

Like I said earlier I think, breaking up with her is in the back of my mind. I do love her though, so I wouldn't want to break up with her just for thinking that something bad will happen. It's still a lot to think about.
 
The girl won't eat at the restaurants she ate with her ex, that should be enough for you...

Love is blind indeed eh? ;)


It is very weird indeed. I'm not being blinded by love, though. It may sound like it, but I'm not the type of person that would do anything stupid because I'm blinded by love for her. I just think it would be best untill something concrete happens, or I see her in person again, to make any decisions.
 
you blew off my opinion and advice the 1st time round, probably because I was a bit harsh, but I was really trying a bit of tough love... but i'm gonna have another say... :)

unlike nearly everyone here, I don't think you should dump her... what would that achieve? if you dump her, you never see her again, never **** her again, probably lose a chunk of your social circle etc... you don't give up and put your dog down if it misbehaves in predictable doggy ways, you train it... :)

what you need to do is train her to behave properly, and if necessary, downgrade her a little (see her less often, have an active social life that involves lots of other interested women, and make sure she knows about it)

at the same time it'd be great if you could let go of the big nagging problem of this 'ex bf' lurking in the wings... I suspect she's using it as a way of controlling you... the fact is, people are more easily compliant in a relationship if they believe they can be replaced... that's what she's trying to do to you, which is why you need to do it to her...

imagine how well behaved a gf would be if she knew you had 5-6 other girls interested and happy to take her place..? do you think she'd be trying to upset you with this ex bf stuff? If she really preferred her ex to you, she wouldn't be with you

hell, I'd encourage her to go see this 'ex bf'... my POV is that if ANY guy is a better prospect than myself, she's welcome to go get him (or try to.. and if any guy's good enough take my gf from me, then he has my respect, not my hate)... a confident guy believes he's the absolute best choice any girl could make

I apologise if my 1st post was a bit strongly worded, but that's my take on it...

Dude, you need to write a book called Machiavellism for Relationships. ;)