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Quilter Bass Block

I think the rivalry is mostly in feature set and personal needs for that aspect. As is known, the Mesa has far more tone shaping capabilities, along with the effects loop and pre- master direct out. As far as my statement on the power section, basically the best way to describe it simply is that where i've had to push the Mesa a bit, i've had to pull back on the Quilter. The over all transient response across the frequency spectrum on the Quilter seem to be a bit tighter, and although there is no limiter indicator on the Quilter output, it seems to get louder than the Mesa while maintaining it's fullness . I just spent the last 10 minutes switching between the two power sections, with the Mesa as the preamp. The power section on the Quilter still has those described tighter transients.
I agree with this. In my case, my test is usually if the bass's tone runs out of breath when playing lower notes - those requiring more power. The BB does not, the Mesa can, with the overload light coming on as well. On the BB, playing low notes , the fullness just keep on putting out. IMO, it acts more like a 1 - 1.2K watt power section than 800 - not so much in the loudness, but in the low end headroom.
 
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I have a number of pre-amps that could, in theory, compensate for the BB800's lack of forensic EQ shaping. My Basswitch IQ DI is probably the highest quality one that I have and is super transparent with semi parametric mid controls.
Since I have owned the Quilter I have played many gigs and rehearsals, often in challenging acoustic conditions. I have never actually needed anything but the Quilter's onboard controls, with the HPF bass cut control being especially useful for boomy rooms. Importantly, I have always been able to find my sound quickly and intuitively. I still take the Basswitch to gigs but now don't even bother to take it out of the bag.

Of course, if I had cabs that had glaring response deficiencies or used a particularly nasty sounding bass I may feel different.

Having played through some very popular modern amp heads with complex eq options I have often found that I needed to battle with all these options to correct a disappointing basic tone.
I can honestly say the Quilter lets me concentrate solely on my playing rather than having to think constantly about how I might improve my sound. The classic bass tones are just "there".

I understand that no one piece of equipment can appeal to every taste.....
Agreed
 
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Per Pat Quilter:

"DEPTH: an active cut-boost bass control, with 12 dB of range and an unusually low hinge frequency of 100Hz, and a very high slope (24dB/octave) to provide pinpoint control of the relative loudness of the lowest strings and overall roundness of tone. This is coupled with a unique 2-stage limiter that prevents obtrusive “bottoming out”, even with heavy bass boost, without the lag or “gagging” effect of conventional limiters. High amounts of GAIN will produce a musically interesting “thrumming” or growling effect without actual hard clipping..."

A separate HPF circuit also exists, fixed at 25 Hz. :thumbsup:

Cheers!
Interpretations are varying of what he's saying here.
Possibly - either the 24bD/octave is with the Depth control fully CCW
or
perhaps there was some unintentional sloppiness of description where the 24dB/octave was regarding the HPF & got added into the Depth control description by mistake.
Just looking for explanations that fit b/c let's say you go 1 click CCW wiith the depth control, I don't think anyone would say you now have a 24dB/octave cutoff on the low frequencies anywhere close to 100Hz.
Does 1 click CCW of the Depth control move the 25Hz 24dB/octave up in frequency by a certain # of Hz?
Maybe someone could ask Pat Q to clarify.
 
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Interpretations are varying of what he's saying here.
Possibly - either the 24bD/octave is with the Depth control fully CCW
or
perhaps there was some unintentional sloppiness of description where the 24dB/octave was regarding the HPF & got added into the Depth control description by mistake.
Just looking for explanations that fit b/c let's say you go 1 click CCW wiith the depth control, I don't think anyone would say you now have a 24dB/octave cutoff on the low frequencies anywhere close to 100Hz.
Does 1 click CCW of the Depth control move the 25Hz 24dB/octave up in frequency by a certain # of Hz?
Maybe someone could ask Pat Q to clarify.

This.
 
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"This limited warranty is freely transferable during the term of the warranty period. The warranty on Quilter products is NOT VALID if the products have been purchased from an unauthorized dealer/online e-tailer, or if the factory serial number has been removed, defaced, or replaced in any way."

This is a direct quote from the Quilter BB800 manual. My question is: How can a warranty be freely transferable if it has to purchased from an authorized dealer. In other words, if I buy one new and want to sell it to someone else, how can I transfer the warranty if I'm not an authorized dealer?
 
"This limited warranty is freely transferable during the term of the warranty period. The warranty on Quilter products is NOT VALID if the products have been purchased from an unauthorized dealer/online e-tailer, or if the factory serial number has been removed, defaced, or replaced in any way."

This is a direct quote from the Quilter BB800 manual. My question is: How can a warranty be freely transferable if it has to purchased from an authorized dealer. In other words, if I buy one new and want to sell it to someone else, how can I transfer the warranty if I'm not an authorized dealer?
I would assume the only way that makes sense is if they are referring to the ORIGINAL sale.
Someone should clarify (& hang on to those ORIGINAL receipts).
 
Lots of chat about the BB800 vs the Mesa D800. I was a long time TH500 guy, and when I moved and started playing louder gigs, the TH500 was not doing it for me. I tried the Mesa, but could not get it to sound and play like I wanted. Great power, but just was struggling with it. The BB800 has the same great power, and just perfect tone (for me) with almost zero adjustment.
 
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If you like the Quilter power section, use it
I like it.. the ONLY flaw being in the preamp section... I don't think there's enough high end presence, but that's easily taken care of with any preamp. My choice is an Ampeg SCR-DI but a Sansamp or anything really would work, your choice. In a live performance it won't be noticed anyway. So when I play out all in bringing is the BB800.
 
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"This limited warranty is freely transferable during the term of the warranty period. The warranty on Quilter products is NOT VALID if the products have been purchased from an unauthorized dealer/online e-tailer, or if the factory serial number has been removed, defaced, or replaced in any way."

This is a direct quote from the Quilter BB800 manual. My question is: How can a warranty be freely transferable if it has to purchased from an authorized dealer. In other words, if I buy one new and want to sell it to someone else, how can I transfer the warranty if I'm not an authorized dealer?
I did buy my Quilter used here from a TBer. When I got it it had that hiss problem within the the few minutes of warm up and then it was gone- this has been mentioned by others as well. Being that I was the second owner Quilter did fix it for free...great service!
 
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I appreciate that Quilter made the power section so robust. I need lots of clean power at 4 ohms for this cabinet.
I play Rock Steady and Ska with old La Bella Flats.
Sometimes I power this Greenboy cab with a bridged Crest ProLite 2.0 which is a really great power match up with this cab. Maybe I will downsize from my rack to a Quilter - but would it power this cab ?
 
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View attachment 2795276 I appreciate that Quilter made the power section so robust. I need lots of clean power at 4 ohms for this cabinet.
I play Rock Steady and Ska with old La Bella Flats.
Sometimes I power this Greenboy cab with a bridged Crest ProLite 2.0 which is a really great power match up with this cab. Maybe I will downsize from my rack to a Quilter - but would it power this cab ?
I use mine with two Barefaced Big Baby II's and it drives that class of cabinet very nicely.
 
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Is it safe to say the quilter is a beast. .Or is it pretty much equal to the other new Class D amps

View attachment 2795276 I appreciate that Quilter made the power section so robust. I need lots of clean power at 4 ohms for this cabinet.
I play Rock Steady and Ska with old La Bella Flats.
Sometimes I power this Greenboy cab with a bridged Crest ProLite 2.0 which is a really great power match up with this cab. Maybe I will downsize from my rack to a Quilter - but would it power this cab ?
 
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View attachment 2795276 I appreciate that Quilter made the power section so robust. I need lots of clean power at 4 ohms for this cabinet.
I play Rock Steady and Ska with old La Bella Flats.
Sometimes I power this Greenboy cab with a bridged Crest ProLite 2.0 which is a really great power match up with this cab. Maybe I will downsize from my rack to a Quilter - but would it power this cab ?

good lord I bet that is KILLER sounding for that stuff!
 
Is it safe to say the quilter is a beast. .Or is it pretty much equal to the other new Class D amps

IMO it beats out most of the Class D heads on the market in terms of feel and "slam". It just feels good playing through it. Almost like your notes have more weight to them and its very responsive. Knowing the kind of work you do Kirk, I'd say you would like it. At the least its worth checking out!
 
I agree with the above. Beats out most of the class D stuff I’ve heard and played. But it’s a tone I like, and a design philosophy I like.

There is more of a heft to the notes than with most class D amps. That “heft” thing is a term you always used to hear in association with Thunderfunk or the Aggie DB750. I think the BB800 has it.