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Quitting the day before a show

I've quit a band just before a gig once. No regrets. I remained friends with most of the band. They couldn't blame me. The guitarist yelled at me for a half an hour for no rational reason. The more I thought about it the more convinced I was that I was going to beat him up if I saw him again and it just wasn't worth the effort.

They brought in a new bass player, who didn't last very long because the guy went off on him in the same way shortly after he joined. In the end they got rid of the guitarist out because he apparently had some emotional issues.

KO
 
I was in a band a few years back that the drummer had bad drug issues. He didn't show up to practice because he was high and we all just kind of dealt with it. Then one time he didn't show to a gig. We ended up Djing the night for free with our PA and I quit that night. I will never play with egos or druggies again. And when I say druggies I am not refering to the pot smokers, they don't bother me and always come to shows. LOL. Some times you just have to walk away. It sucked, we were really good but it wasn't worth it.
 
I have been playing pro music for 40 years and I have crossed paths with more than one psycho human who used the excuse of being "an artist" to act like a total dick.
These people are psychic vampires sucking everyone's energy.
You can't help them, fix them, or work with them. Besides it is not your job or your problem to do so. The best thing to do is be done with them. Cut them loose and let them go mess with someone else.
 
I have been playing pro music for 40 years and I have crossed paths with more than one psycho human who used the excuse of being "an artist" to act like a total dick.
These people are psychic vampires sucking everyone's energy.
You can't help them, fix them, or work with them. Besides it is not your job or your problem to do so. The best thing to do is be done with them. Cut them loose and let them go mess with someone else.

Unfortunately I learned this the hard way. He had cancer and had to have part of his jaw removed. When I met him he talked about how we all take things for granted and actually changed my view on things - made me appreciate life and what I've been blessed with much more than I already did. Come to find out it was either just an act or he's too diluted to see how miserable he really is. I'm guessing the latter. The guys that knew him before the cancer said he was the exact same way. I tried to be his friend until I realized who he really is. Every conversation you have with the guy either consists of putting himself on a pedestal, making fun of (or putting down) other people, or putting YOU up on a pedestal...I'm guessing that's some sort of defense mechanism to keep people from calling him out, and make "friends" without really having to put forth any effort. Just tell people how great they are and how bad everyone else is, and they'll hang out with you, right? Not sure...guess it doesn't make much sense trying to understand lunacy.

In any case, I'm not religious, but I said a prayer for him last night, and will continue to do so. Hopefully something causes him to take a good hard look at who he is and how he acts, and he can change into a productive member of the music community and melt some faces in another band in the near future. :)
 
Drummachines can be a great hang too, I suppose... Good luck getting a new drummer anyway.
What an ordeal! Make sure you're getting him his gear back in one piece, this guy sounds like he could actually hurt someone or something if he's given a reason to lose his mind again.
 
Lol! No, it's not. But yeah, the fact that we're in Tampa is why we put up with that BS for as long as we did... :)

ah, okay... well, Bill was everything you described here, and more. He and our guitarist decided one day, an hour or so before practice, that I didn't "fit in" with the group any more, so they'd get "someone else" to play bass.

that band never played another gig, as far as I'm aware.

so, anyway... good luck with the hunt for your new drummer! ...and, feel free to PM me if the most promising prospect after your auditions is named "Bill" ... ;)



definitions:

"fit in" - find a use for a rolled up dollar bill between sets.

"someone else" - a person who otherwise makes their living giving people a reason to roll up a dollar bill between sets.
 
Waffles, you have way more patience than I do about being disrespected. I won't play music with a drummer or anyone like that. Period. I value my time way too much . What if ,after being patient with him, he says something to you that makes you throw your bass at him or maybe you make it so that a lighting rig "accidentally" falls on him ? You might get into trouble and then what ?
 
Waffles, you have way more patience than I do about being disrespected. I won't play music with a drummer or anyone like that. Period. I value my time way too much . What if ,after being patient with him, he says something to you that makes you throw your bass at him or maybe you make it so that a lighting rig "accidentally" falls on him ? You might get into trouble and then what ?

The best way I can sum it up is to say he was truly pathetic, which is why it didn't bother me too much. Here's some things to put this situation in perspective: We're all decent sized guys (I'm 6'0 210 and everyone else is around the same), and he's 5'2 90-95lbs. Our vocalist can box and I took some CQC training, but we're both very humble in that regard and rarely (if ever) talk about it. Our drummer was an amateur kickboxer that made sure everybody knew it, and he has a huge ego, but IMO he couldn't hurt a fly nowadays. When he and our rhythm guitarist had a fight in April he stayed at my place for a night. He went on and on (for hours) about how he was afraid he'd black out and hurt him, as he knew several ways to kill or severely injur someone with one blow. Then later on in the evening, after we got drunk, he said he was afraid to go back home because our rhythm guitarist was so big he could "snap him like a twig". It turns out he said the same thing about me in August (didn't want to come to practice b/c he was afraid he'd black out and injur or kill me), but when he showed up at practice he told all of us that he was afraid to walk in the room because he thought I was going to hurt him. He would talk about how we're all soft and need to be able to play for hours, but after a few tough songs he would make a comment like "man, I'm about to pass out" or "I'm lucky I didn't throw up I was playing so hard".

I could go on and on, but you get the gist. Most of his comments were simply laughable, so I doubt he could've pushed me to that point. Although aggravating, he was a source of much humor between the rest of us, which made it a much more tolerable situation...

All in all it was a lesson in tolerance for me, and (as stated above) I'm glad I put up with it long enough to fulfill our obligations through the end of the year. :)
 
UPDATE: Issue resolved. We kicked him out last night. And as Jaywa stated, I do indeed believe he's psychotic. Here's how it went down (sorry for the long read, but I figured after all the great advice, I'd provide all the details):

Things went along as usual for a couple of months. He kept being himself (complaining, tossing out know-it-all comments all the time, etc), but we dealt with it. Then in October, more drama. Our rhythm guitarist was asked to move his car for another band to load in. You could see he was really angry (not sure why - probably just having a bad day). He accidentally dropped his wireless relay, tossed out a couple expletives, then walked outside. When he comes back in, our drummer, in his typical know-it-all style, says "that's why I don't park there. I've never had to move my car before." Our guitarist says "yeah, I fogot, you know everything." Our drummer proceeds to pack up his gear and leave in the middle of practice! Guitarist calls him out, asking what kind of p**** would act like that, but he just walks out without saying a word. But here's the best part - that night he reaches out to me - yes, me - the guy he called every name in the book and insulted on every level just 2 months prior - for sympathy and confirmation that he did the right thing! Ridiculous. I didn't respond.

At our next show things went rather smoothly. Afterwards we packed up our gear, and the guys (and a couple of our GF's) were all outside talking. We look over and he's pulling out of the parking lot. Didn't say a word, just packed up his stuff and left. So we had a group discussion about how it's come time to find a replacement, but we'll wait until we get through the end of the year.

Fast forward to Saturday night, New Years Eve. I broke my toe that afternoon and our rhythm guitarist was REALLY sick (flu-like symptoms), so we were already in rough shape. As we were packing our gear to head to the venue, we got an email from him (not a call, an email :mad:) saying he had another kidney stone, doesn't feel he can play "effectively" and "really wants to get out of the gig". It was another typical ridiculous "woe is me" email, and he dropped the N word again (said he didn't want to feel as though he was "n*****ing out on us"). I don't even know what that means. Our vocalist calls him and he answers with a weak, painful voice. Tells him he thinks he's going to have to go to the ER. So we start calling everyone we know looking for a last minute replacement. Then we had to find out the BPM's for a couple songs, so I called him. He sounded perfectly fine, and his tone made me feel as though I were annoying him because he was busy with something. Really p*ssed me off. So we all agreed he was done. We ended up playing to an unprogrammed drum machine. We had fun with it, and the crowd and venue still loved us, but because of his cancellation we decided to apologize to the venue and forfeit our pay.

So last night we all get to practice. He walks in, stands at the door and won't make eye contact with anyone. Our vocalist says the negativity and drama is affecting everyone, and it needs to stop. He goes on about how he's never attacked any of us personally, but we always take things personal. Says he's done nothing but show us all the utmost respect and try to be our friend, but we clearly aren't interested. Then he attacks our rhythm guitarist saying he's being "sabotaged" by him. Our lead guitarist (who never says ANYTHING controversial) had heard enough and said "I'm tired of the drama. You're done." Since it didn't come from myself or our rhythm guitarist, he had nobody to attack, so he slammed the door and left. We texted him saying we're putting another lock on the door and we'll meet him there when he wants to get his drum kit, and he goes on about being insulted that we think he'd steal from us, and he'll bring the police with him and get his stuff when he wants. (which he can't do as he's not on the lease)

So, although we were left hanging on NYE and will be playing our show on Friday with a drum machine, we finally dropped the hammer and have some good prospects we'll be auditioning in the coming weeks. :)

Sounds like problem solved, and you didn't have to be the bad guy. Patience can produce amazing results!