Racial Microagressions

[macaroni tony]

Good move. Better safe than sorry.

Yup. If there's nothing else life has taught us, it's taught us that black people are very violent

 

[NWB]

Yup. If there's nothing else life has taught us, it's taught us that black people are very violent

I suspect the news supports this fallacy. I watched a documentary that presented a montage of new stories showing the black "boogieman" behind every sort of violent crime imaginable. Since the evening news essentially lives off fear, maybe they do this to boost ratings with their wealthier viewers.

In spite of all that sort of crap, life has taught me that black people are typically quite friendly.

 

[DerHoggz]

Life has taught me black people are people, I can generalize no more than that.

 

[Downunderwonder]

There was a strange tv show where they took white family and black family and did hell good makeup jobs to send them out with each others' parents/wives/schoolmates/neighbours. What a mess of stereotypical antireactions to imaginations.

 

[1958Bassman]

It's actually quite simple. First, respect yourself. Next, show that same respect to others.

DONE.

Come back and tell us how well that works after you have been the victim of a series of crimes, committed by people of one ethnic group. Tell us how you would explain why you're starting to watch anyone from that group as they walk behind you, near your car or house or put one hand in their pocket as they walk toward you.

Imagine this- you're in 5th grade and you have ridden your new bike to school for the first time. You paid with your own money from doing odd jobs and a measly 50 cent/week allowance. You see that the lock is hanging from the bar behind the seat as he rides away.

You're 16 and you go into a grocery store for a drink of water, only a few feet around the corner from the front door. You walk out and see someone riding away on your bike- the replacement for your second bike to be stolen. You chase the guy, who's riding with his friends back to, as it turned out, their inner-city neighborhood. That same family apparently likes your neighborhood so much, they leave their inner city place and move in. While they're in that house, they trash it almost immediately. They have a disabled van sitting on the driveway with people living in it. This is the suburbs, but even this wouldn't be allowed in the inner city. The house is crumbling. Their daughters get pregnant and their son, the one you chased when he stole your bike, gets someone pregnant and they raise the kid at this house. When this kid is in 4th grade, he pulls a knife on his teacher. She quits immediately because she only lives a block away.

You move out of your parents' house and get a place with friends, where your car is vandalized. Houses and cars in the area are broken into on a regular basis. You later move to another place that's not far away and your car is broken into by breaking a door window, the dash is badly damaged while they steal the stereo and they steal a toolbox that you need for your job. In another part of town, the same car is stolen and found in a vacant lot, stripped. Two cars later, you go home on Christmas Eve and hang out with your friends. 45 minutes later, there's a knock on the door, where a cop is there to tell you that they have recovered your car that had been stolen almost immediately after you got home in the inner city.

You're awakened one night by a thump and the sound of breaking glass (light sleeper). You look out the closed windows, seeing nothing. Then, you open one and look at the area between your house and the one next door, seeing someone crouching in the dark.

You go home from work and while you're getting ready to go out that evening, you hear that your neighbor, who lives across the alley, has been shot six times when someone attempted to rob the gas station/convenience store where he was in line. He's a cop and he shoots the would-be robber, killing him.

Through the years, you have worked in a mall, where you have seen and apprehended many people of one specific ethnic group who had stolen a lot of items from a variety of stores, including the one where you work.

All of these incidents were committed by people from one ethnic group. You saw several of the events happen, saw the police reports from the others.

Tell me that this won't skew your opinion of this group.

BTW- the neighbor who was a cop lived and I still see him, occasionally. I would like to have him as a neighbor again. My neighbor from across the street at the same house now lives pretty close to where I live and I don't see him as often as I would like. Both are from an ethnic group that's different from my own and none of us care about that.

A person can have all the self-respect in the World and if they have experienced enough crap from a particular group, they're not going to have a lot of love for that group. People are reactive and when they, or someone they know, are victimized, remaining unbiased is unlikely.

 

[matante]

Come back and tell us how well that works after you have been the victim of a series of crimes, committed by people of one ethnic group. Tell us how you would explain why you're starting to watch anyone from that group as they walk behind you, near your car or house or put one hand in their pocket as they walk toward you.

Imagine this- you're in 5th grade and you have ridden your new bike to school for the first time. You paid with your own money from doing odd jobs and a measly 50 cent/week allowance. You see that the lock is hanging from the bar behind the seat as he rides away.

You're 16 and you go into a grocery store for a drink of water, only a few feet around the corner from the front door. You walk out and see someone riding away on your bike- the replacement for your second bike to be stolen. You chase the guy, who's riding with his friends back to, as it turned out, their inner-city neighborhood. That same family apparently likes your neighborhood so much, they leave their inner city place and move in. While they're in that house, they trash it almost immediately. They have a disabled van sitting on the driveway with people living in it. This is the suburbs, but even this wouldn't be allowed in the inner city. The house is crumbling. Their daughters get pregnant and their son, the one you chased when he stole your bike, gets someone pregnant and they raise the kid at this house. When this kid is in 4th grade, he pulls a knife on his teacher. She quits immediately because she only lives a block away.

You move out of your parents' house and get a place with friends, where your car is vandalized. Houses and cars in the area are broken into on a regular basis. You later move to another place that's not far away and your car is broken into by breaking a door window, the dash is badly damaged while they steal the stereo and they steal a toolbox that you need for your job. In another part of town, the same car is stolen and found in a vacant lot, stripped. Two cars later, you go home on Christmas Eve and hang out with your friends. 45 minutes later, there's a knock on the door, where a cop is there to tell you that they have recovered your car that had been stolen almost immediately after you got home in the inner city.

You're awakened one night by a thump and the sound of breaking glass (light sleeper). You look out the closed windows, seeing nothing. Then, you open one and look at the area between your house and the one next door, seeing someone crouching in the dark.

You go home from work and while you're getting ready to go out that evening, you hear that your neighbor, who lives across the alley, has been shot six times when someone attempted to rob the gas station/convenience store where he was in line. He's a cop and he shoots the would-be robber, killing him.

Through the years, you have worked in a mall, where you have seen and apprehended many people of one specific ethnic group who had stolen a lot of items from a variety of stores, including the one where you work.

All of these incidents were committed by people from one ethnic group. You saw several of the events happen, saw the police reports from the others.

Tell me that this won't skew your opinion of this group.

BTW- the neighbor who was a cop lived and I still see him, occasionally. I would like to have him as a neighbor again. My neighbor from across the street at the same house now lives pretty close to where I live and I don't see him as often as I would like. Both are from an ethnic group that's different from my own and none of us care about that.

A person can have all the self-respect in the World and if they have experienced enough crap from a particular group, they're not going to have a lot of love for that group. People are reactive and when they, or someone they know, are victimized, remaining unbiased is unlikely.

In our everyday lives we don't interact with ethnic groups. We interact with individuals.

If you have a bias against an individual you've never met, simply because he's from a specific ethnicity, you are being irrational.

But I think there's a lot more to your story than ethnicity.

 

[Dr. Cheese]

Come back and tell us how well that works after you have been the victim of a series of crimes, committed by people of one ethnic group. Tell us how you would explain why you're starting to watch anyone from that group as they walk behind you, near your car or house or put one hand in their pocket as they walk toward you.

Imagine this- you're in 5th grade and you have ridden your new bike to school for the first time. You paid with your own money from doing odd jobs and a measly 50 cent/week allowance. You see that the lock is hanging from the bar behind the seat as he rides away.

You're 16 and you go into a grocery store for a drink of water, only a few feet around the corner from the front door. You walk out and see someone riding away on your bike- the replacement for your second bike to be stolen. You chase the guy, who's riding with his friends back to, as it turned out, their inner-city neighborhood. That same family apparently likes your neighborhood so much, they leave their inner city place and move in. While they're in that house, they trash it almost immediately. They have a disabled van sitting on the driveway with people living in it. This is the suburbs, but even this wouldn't be allowed in the inner city. The house is crumbling. Their daughters get pregnant and their son, the one you chased when he stole your bike, gets someone pregnant and they raise the kid at this house. When this kid is in 4th grade, he pulls a knife on his teacher. She quits immediately because she only lives a block away.

You move out of your parents' house and get a place with friends, where your car is vandalized. Houses and cars in the area are broken into on a regular basis. You later move to another place that's not far away and your car is broken into by breaking a door window, the dash is badly damaged while they steal the stereo and they steal a toolbox that you need for your job. In another part of town, the same car is stolen and found in a vacant lot, stripped. Two cars later, you go home on Christmas Eve and hang out with your friends. 45 minutes later, there's a knock on the door, where a cop is there to tell you that they have recovered your car that had been stolen almost immediately after you got home in the inner city.

You're awakened one night by a thump and the sound of breaking glass (light sleeper). You look out the closed windows, seeing nothing. Then, you open one and look at the area between your house and the one next door, seeing someone crouching in the dark.

You go home from work and while you're getting ready to go out that evening, you hear that your neighbor, who lives across the alley, has been shot six times when someone attempted to rob the gas station/convenience store where he was in line. He's a cop and he shoots the would-be robber, killing him.

Through the years, you have worked in a mall, where you have seen and apprehended many people of one specific ethnic group who had stolen a lot of items from a variety of stores, including the one where you work.

All of these incidents were committed by people from one ethnic group. You saw several of the events happen, saw the police reports from the others.

Tell me that this won't skew your opinion of this group.

BTW- the neighbor who was a cop lived and I still see him, occasionally. I would like to have him as a neighbor again. My neighbor from across the street at the same house now lives pretty close to where I live and I don't see him as often as I would like. Both are from an ethnic group that's different from my own and none of us care about that.

A person can have all the self-respect in the World and if they have experienced enough crap from a particular group, they're not going to have a lot of love for that group. People are reactive and when they, or someone they know, are victimized, remaining unbiased is unlikely.

There are people in my community that had to spend their entire lives being nice to people who hanged them, put police dogs on them, bombed their churches, and supported laws that took away their rights. Those are the sorts of things that only happen with the support of an entire community.. An entire community did not steal your bike.
Furthermore, if your had been stolen by someone who looked like you, would you spend your life hating everyone who looks like you?
You would probably say that was a bad individual or group of individuals.

 

[1958Bassman]

In our everyday lives we don't interact with ethnic groups. We interact with individuals.

If you have a bias against an individual you've never met, simply because he's from a specific ethnicity, you are being irrational.

But I think there's a lot more to your story than ethnicity.

The part I made bold, italicized and underlined- THAT is the root of the problems, IMO. People who hate anyone from a group that's different from their own, for any reason and they hate them as a group without seeing that it's not the group who is the problem, it's individuals, have some reason for it. For some, it only takes one incident and I suspect they were taught a certain amount of negative information about others from a young age. Others, may have been taught absolutely nothing bad about people who are different and my parents did a great job of NOT teaching us that people who are different are naturally bad or worse than us. I can't stand talking with people who are overtly racist. I have known some and they tend to be very short-sighted. In one case, his father actually tried to get them to see that Blacks are no better or worse than Whites by arranging a kind of "kid swap", where his kids stayed with another family and their kids stayed at his house. The dads were friends, but the lesson failed, miserably. The younger of the two White sons can't stand anyone who's not White and I avoid him at all costs. Unfortunately, I worked with him for ten years and am glad I moved on. Nothing I, or anyone else, could do changed anything. His wife is about the same, although she's less subtle about it.

As far as there being more to the story, the examples are only some of the things I have lost but still, it's not a matter of everyone in that group being a problem and I see no reason to actually hate anyone- it was individuals who did those. I'm not too crazy about certain individuals, but there's no reason to think that any one group is inherently better. Humans are badly flawed, but many aren't. There's too much hate already without coming up with bad reasons for adding to it.

 

[kohntarkosz]

Come back and tell us how well that works after you have been the victim of a series of crimes, committed by people of one ethnic group. Tell us how you would explain why you're starting to watch anyone from that group as they walk behind you, near your car or house or put one hand in their pocket as they walk toward you.

Imagine this- you're in 5th grade and you have ridden your new bike to school for the first time. You paid with your own money from doing odd jobs and a measly 50 cent/week allowance. You see that the lock is hanging from the bar behind the seat as he rides away.

You're 16 and you go into a grocery store for a drink of water, only a few feet around the corner from the front door. You walk out and see someone riding away on your bike- the replacement for your second bike to be stolen. You chase the guy, who's riding with his friends back to, as it turned out, their inner-city neighborhood. That same family apparently likes your neighborhood so much, they leave their inner city place and move in. While they're in that house, they trash it almost immediately. They have a disabled van sitting on the driveway with people living in it. This is the suburbs, but even this wouldn't be allowed in the inner city. The house is crumbling. Their daughters get pregnant and their son, the one you chased when he stole your bike, gets someone pregnant and they raise the kid at this house. When this kid is in 4th grade, he pulls a knife on his teacher. She quits immediately because she only lives a block away.

You move out of your parents' house and get a place with friends, where your car is vandalized. Houses and cars in the area are broken into on a regular basis. You later move to another place that's not far away and your car is broken into by breaking a door window, the dash is badly damaged while they steal the stereo and they steal a toolbox that you need for your job. In another part of town, the same car is stolen and found in a vacant lot, stripped. Two cars later, you go home on Christmas Eve and hang out with your friends. 45 minutes later, there's a knock on the door, where a cop is there to tell you that they have recovered your car that had been stolen almost immediately after you got home in the inner city.

You're awakened one night by a thump and the sound of breaking glass (light sleeper). You look out the closed windows, seeing nothing. Then, you open one and look at the area between your house and the one next door, seeing someone crouching in the dark.

You go home from work and while you're getting ready to go out that evening, you hear that your neighbor, who lives across the alley, has been shot six times when someone attempted to rob the gas station/convenience store where he was in line. He's a cop and he shoots the would-be robber, killing him.

Through the years, you have worked in a mall, where you have seen and apprehended many people of one specific ethnic group who had stolen a lot of items from a variety of stores, including the one where you work.

All of these incidents were committed by people from one ethnic group. You saw several of the events happen, saw the police reports from the others.

Tell me that this won't skew your opinion of this group.

BTW- the neighbor who was a cop lived and I still see him, occasionally. I would like to have him as a neighbor again. My neighbor from across the street at the same house now lives pretty close to where I live and I don't see him as often as I would like. Both are from an ethnic group that's different from my own and none of us care about that.

A person can have all the self-respect in the World and if they have experienced enough crap from a particular group, they're not going to have a lot of love for that group. People are reactive and when they, or someone they know, are victimized, remaining unbiased is unlikely.

So I guess Lyndon B. Johnson's Great Society program didn't work out so well in your area. I hear they love this sort of creative writing over on Stormfront.

 

[1958Bassman]

There are people in my community that had to spend their entire lives being nice to people who hanged them, put police dogs on them, bombed their churches, and supported laws that took away their rights. Those are the sorts of things that only happen with the support of an entire community.. An entire community did not steal your bike.
Furthermore, if your had been stolen by someone who looked like you, would you spend your life hating everyone who looks like you?
You would probably say that was a bad individual or group of individuals.

I think your examples of what Whites did to Blacks are well remembered, but the level of forgiveness has exceeded what many would be capable of. MLK played a huge part in making this happen, IMO, and his messages are still repeated, but not universally.

The 2nd and 4th bikes stolen from me WERE stolen by white guys. They caught the 4th and someone saw the 2nd. I never said I hate anyone, let alone any group. However, my experiences have made me suspect Whites more- history is full of Whites doing incredibly bad things, for ridiculous reasons.

Reminds me of a line from FZ's 'Trouble Every Day'- "You know what, people- I'm not Black, but there's a whole lotsa times I wish I could say I'm not White". When I learned about history in grade school, the things I heard floored me- I couldn't believe anyone would think that what they were doing was right.

 

[mellowinman]

Come back and tell us how well that works after you have been the victim of a series of crimes, committed by people of one ethnic group. Tell us how you would explain why you're starting to watch anyone from that group as they walk behind you, near your car or house or put one hand in their pocket as they walk toward you.

Imagine this- you're in 5th grade and you have ridden your new bike to school for the first time. You paid with your own money from doing odd jobs and a measly 50 cent/week allowance. You see that the lock is hanging from the bar behind the seat as he rides away.

You're 16 and you go into a grocery store for a drink of water, only a few feet around the corner from the front door. You walk out and see someone riding away on your bike- the replacement for your second bike to be stolen. You chase the guy, who's riding with his friends back to, as it turned out, their inner-city neighborhood. That same family apparently likes your neighborhood so much, they leave their inner city place and move in. While they're in that house, they trash it almost immediately. They have a disabled van sitting on the driveway with people living in it. This is the suburbs, but even this wouldn't be allowed in the inner city. The house is crumbling. Their daughters get pregnant and their son, the one you chased when he stole your bike, gets someone pregnant and they raise the kid at this house. When this kid is in 4th grade, he pulls a knife on his teacher. She quits immediately because she only lives a block away.

You move out of your parents' house and get a place with friends, where your car is vandalized. Houses and cars in the area are broken into on a regular basis. You later move to another place that's not far away and your car is broken into by breaking a door window, the dash is badly damaged while they steal the stereo and they steal a toolbox that you need for your job. In another part of town, the same car is stolen and found in a vacant lot, stripped. Two cars later, you go home on Christmas Eve and hang out with your friends. 45 minutes later, there's a knock on the door, where a cop is there to tell you that they have recovered your car that had been stolen almost immediately after you got home in the inner city.

You're awakened one night by a thump and the sound of breaking glass (light sleeper). You look out the closed windows, seeing nothing. Then, you open one and look at the area between your house and the one next door, seeing someone crouching in the dark.

You go home from work and while you're getting ready to go out that evening, you hear that your neighbor, who lives across the alley, has been shot six times when someone attempted to rob the gas station/convenience store where he was in line. He's a cop and he shoots the would-be robber, killing him.

Through the years, you have worked in a mall, where you have seen and apprehended many people of one specific ethnic group who had stolen a lot of items from a variety of stores, including the one where you work.

All of these incidents were committed by people from one ethnic group. You saw several of the events happen, saw the police reports from the others.

Tell me that this won't skew your opinion of this group.

BTW- the neighbor who was a cop lived and I still see him, occasionally. I would like to have him as a neighbor again. My neighbor from across the street at the same house now lives pretty close to where I live and I don't see him as often as I would like. Both are from an ethnic group that's different from my own and none of us care about that.

A person can have all the self-respect in the World and if they have experienced enough crap from a particular group, they're not going to have a lot of love for that group. People are reactive and when they, or someone they know, are victimized, remaining unbiased is unlikely.

You're joking, right? Tell me this post is a joke, and we'll move on. Surely you don't believe that, at age 50, having lived in many poor and "dangerous" neighborhoods over the years, that I have never been victimized, or had negative experiences with people from any ethnic groups.

My car was stolen twice, but I learned to forgive the demographic that did it both times: teenagers.



There's no excuse for racism. We are all subject to it, and we all have reasons to feel it. We also have EVERY reason to get over it.

See the answer you were responding to with this post again.

 

[1958Bassman]

So I guess Lyndon B. Johnson's Great Society program didn't work out so well in your area. I hear they love this sort of creative writing over on Stormfront.

I'm in the Milwaukee area- read about what's going on here and you may see that it's not working well.

It's not creative writing- those happened to me and no, I don't hate anyone. What's Stormfront? I wouldn't know, or care, what they like or love.

 

[1958Bassman]

You're joking, right? Tell me this post is a joke, and we'll move on. Surely you don't believe that, at age 50, having lived in many poor and "dangerous" neighborhoods over the years, that I have never been victimized, or had negative experiences with people from any ethnic groups.

My car was stolen twice, but I learned to forgive the demographic that did it both times: teenagers.



There's no excuse for racism. We are all subject to it, and we all have reasons to feel it. We also have EVERY reason to get over it.

See the answer you were responding to with this post again.

If I hated anyone from other groups, would I have moved INTO the city for more than a few minutes? I doubt it. The first place was very short-term, but the second was for about 3 years. I don't know who stole that stereo. From there, I moved to an area that was OK at the time, but it too, has become worse. I stayed there for 14 years.

I lost all 4 bikes in the suburb where I grew up, not in the city. The rest of what I lost was in MKE. As I wrote, I was never taught to hate anyone and I still don't. I couldn't count the number of times I have given cash, food, a bottle of water or a ride to complete strangers and I will continue to do that.

 

[DwaynieAD]

so a group of black men likes to walk around and "intimidate white people" (their quote not mine) and then wants to move out of the area because "there is too much racism" (again their quote)

what do you make of that?

 

[pacojas]

Yup. If there's nothing else life has taught us, it's taught us that black people are very violent

lmao@BawanaRik!!! actually, i kind of feel sorry for him, but i had to laugh at his response! you know what Rik,.. i have had several various acts perpetrated against me & mine by specific groups, but i still love or hate everyone individually.

why should i hate all Hindu's because one stole my girl-friend?!!? i will admit, for awhile though i tried. LMAO! i was like, there goes another one of those people,... hahahaa!

 

[mellowinman]

It frightens me to think that there are people who have the internet, but don't know what Stormfront is.

 

[Dr. Cheese]

I think your examples of what Whites did to Blacks are well remembered, but the level of forgiveness has exceeded what many would be capable of. MLK played a huge part in making this happen, IMO, and his messages are still repeated, but not universally.



The 2nd and 4th bikes stolen from me WERE stolen by white guys. They caught the 4th and someone saw the 2nd. I never said I hate anyone, let alone any group. However, my experiences have made me suspect Whites more- history is full of Whites doing incredibly bad things, for ridiculous reasons.



Reminds me of a line from FZ's 'Trouble Every Day'- "You know what, people- I'm not Black, but there's a whole lotsa times I wish I could say I'm not White". When I learned about history in grade school, the things I heard floored me- I couldn't believe anyone would think that what they were doing was right.

The level of forgiveness was really more about being unable to do anything but forgive considering the power dynamics between the two groups. Forgiveness puts a happy face on weakness. MLK was a pacifist, but most blacks just wanted to survive.

 

[BawanaRik]

lmao@BawanaRik!!! actually, i kind of feel sorry for him, but i had to laugh at his response! you know what Rik,.. i have had several various acts perpetrated against me & mine by specific groups, but i still love or hate everyone individually.

why should i hate all Hindu's because one stole my girl-friend?!!? i will admit, for awhile though i tried. LMAO! i was like, there goes another one of those people,... hahahaa!

Why is this directed at me? Just wondering. I have never advocated hating any specific group.

Please clear this up.

 

[BawanaRik]

It frightens me to think that there are people who have the internet, but don't know what Stormfront is.

It's very possible they don't go looking for such things.

 

[BawanaRik]

If I hated anyone from other groups, would I have moved INTO the city for more than a few minutes? I doubt it. The first place was very short-term, but the second was for about 3 years. I don't know who stole that stereo. From there, I moved to an area that was OK at the time, but it too, has become worse. I stayed there for 14 years.

I lost all 4 bikes in the suburb where I grew up, not in the city. The rest of what I lost was in MKE. As I wrote, I was never taught to hate anyone and I still don't. I couldn't count the number of times I have given cash, food, a bottle of water or a ride to complete strangers and I will continue to do that.

I no longer give rides to strangers. The last time I did that it was a telemarketer.

All I heard was how downtrodden telemarketers were.