Has anyone had any experience w/ Redstar Audio Bass Cabs? They claim to use Eminence Delta Speakers. Made in Houston , Tx.
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Redstar Bass Cabinets?
- Thread starter jtc_hunter
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We do only use Eminence drivers and our cabs are sourced from domestic suppliers and built in the USA. If you have any other questions please feel free to ask.
Best Regards,
Redstar Audio
Best Regards,
Redstar Audio
Looks pretty well made to me. No tweeter? Interesting. Plus now we know the answer to the question "what's the best speaker for metal?"
Thanks for the questions...
We sell through our online store which is easily accessible from our website. We only sell b-stocks, demos or small runs of units when we make a model change. The eBay auctions are finished for a long time, probably 6-9 months before you see any more on there, if ever.
We don't publish response charts anymore.
If the "cab made for metal" comment was referring to the Havok guitar cab, yes it is and we'll absolutely stack it up against any cab made anywhere, by anyone. It's a beast that has to be heard to be believed.
We take extreme pride in our engineering and construction methods. We never claim to make the greatest cabs in the history of mankind, but we do have an exceptionally high level of construction quality and design in our cabs and we are not shy about that. The manufacturing and quality are about as high as you can get without using an exotic, custom-build process, and we don't know of any other manufacturer utilizing better materials, designs or construction.
Please let us know if there are any other questions and thank you for your interest in our products.
Redstar Audio
We sell through our online store which is easily accessible from our website. We only sell b-stocks, demos or small runs of units when we make a model change. The eBay auctions are finished for a long time, probably 6-9 months before you see any more on there, if ever.
We don't publish response charts anymore.
If the "cab made for metal" comment was referring to the Havok guitar cab, yes it is and we'll absolutely stack it up against any cab made anywhere, by anyone. It's a beast that has to be heard to be believed.
We take extreme pride in our engineering and construction methods. We never claim to make the greatest cabs in the history of mankind, but we do have an exceptionally high level of construction quality and design in our cabs and we are not shy about that. The manufacturing and quality are about as high as you can get without using an exotic, custom-build process, and we don't know of any other manufacturer utilizing better materials, designs or construction.
Please let us know if there are any other questions and thank you for your interest in our products.
Redstar Audio
I am not surprised.
It is so much easier to B.S. the specs when they are unsubstantiated.
The boxes look very nice and well made.
However, the Anvil 410 is just another four-speakers-in-a-box design like the Avatar.
I saw literally no end of Speakers-In-A-Box at NAMM.
I hoped to find some innovation, but only saw more the same ol', same ol'.
The Eminence Delta 10 is a wimpy little driver and ill suited for electric bass.
It has a high F3 around 88 Hz, high Fs and short 3.5mm Xmax.
All of which makes it better suited as a midbass driver.
This is not 'engineering', it is box stuffing.
Other than the construction quality, I don't see anything that differentiates this 410 from an Avatar, at 1/3 the price point.
bongomania
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Exactly. Tired of getting bagged on for false specs? Just pull the specs and say "specs don't describe real-world sound quality". It's a proud tradition among speaker cab companies, second only to the tradition of publishing meaningless specs.
What does that mean exactly? What is an "exotic, custom-build process", and how does it differ from careful use of physics and acoustics? Do you not know of any makers using better materials/etc. because there aren't any, or because you haven't been looking?
bgavin, that's freakin' hillarious. i checked out their site and i thought the same thing. i will say, in their defense, that they look very well built, but they seriously need to rethink their driver choices.
I really like the design of the handles on the outer top edges of the cabs.
By the way,Redstaraudio,TB'rs are SOB's to please.Or,haven't you noticed that?Let the thrashing begin!No "pulling the wool over the eyes" here!
By the way,Redstaraudio,TB'rs are SOB's to please.Or,haven't you noticed that?Let the thrashing begin!No "pulling the wool over the eyes" here!
These are great comments - keep them coming. We always appreciate informed feedback, and we thank you for posting them and taking the time to visit our site.
Best Regards
Redstar Audio
Best Regards
Redstar Audio
Congrats! A proper way for a responsible Company to respond. You show more promise than a couple of others here.
To bgavin and others who share similar opinions on the matter: The following is not to be read harshly. I'm just looking for an understanding. I don't understand why I see posts all the time in threads like this one requesting startups in the audio product manufacturing industry to reveal all their data plots, proprietary technologies, weights and capacities, etc. with high detail. There are three truths to specifications in the audio product industry.
1. Specs that require measurement involving equipment hardly any musicians own are readily made up by marketing departments of these companies or at least are spec'd according to what is marketably positive. Most of these specs are flat out unachievable within even 1 standard deviation of what's quoted. I know that, you know that, lots of people know that, but these companies get away with it anyway and it helps them sell products.
2. Specs that are legitimately measured are done in environments involving favorable acoustic room modes/acoustic amplification to achieve the desirable measured result. These results are aimed for again because marketing and industry competitiveness require certain numbers to impress large demographics of buyers.
3. No individual nor group of people will ever get this industry to agree upon one standard of measurement or integrity of specification. As such, companies who do readily supply engineering data and response plots to their customers are at a comparative serious disadvantage. This is why hardly any companies ever supply them.
Redstar products may seem to be drivers in a box like most products on the market, but there's a reason that's the case as well. Customers want sufficient sound pressure in as compact a package as possible. They expect certain visual aspects in product design, and the majority shy away from radical departures. If proper engineering regardless of aesthetic appeal were the trump card in the industry, everybody would be purchasing Bill Fitz. boxes. Manufacturing businesses like to sell products, and try to align their products with consumer preferences. Manufacturing businesses also must try to achieve as high efficiency in their production as possible, as the lowest and least wasteful cost points, which usually means compromises. Additionally, innovators shy from full disclosure of proprietary IP from fear competitors with far greater production efficiencies and market penetration might dominate a newly wedged niche.
As I see it, until there's a reason for an upstart especially to proffer up honest specifications and their intellectual property, there is no reason for new businesses to disadvantage themselves in the market to win over tiny minority of individuals who wish to see detailed specifications and graphs and who possess the equipment necessary to verify such specs and graphs.
Someday in the future I plan to offer my own line of musical products that have taken me a long time, lots of money, and lots of effort to design. I'd like to make a living someday with said products. I also believe highly in ethics, integrity, honesty, and quality. As soon as there's no competitive disadvantage to plot honest plots and specs in this industry, my products will be among the first bared with full disclosure. I suspect a lot of small manufacturers in the industry feel likewise.
1. Specs that require measurement involving equipment hardly any musicians own are readily made up by marketing departments of these companies or at least are spec'd according to what is marketably positive. Most of these specs are flat out unachievable within even 1 standard deviation of what's quoted. I know that, you know that, lots of people know that, but these companies get away with it anyway and it helps them sell products.
2. Specs that are legitimately measured are done in environments involving favorable acoustic room modes/acoustic amplification to achieve the desirable measured result. These results are aimed for again because marketing and industry competitiveness require certain numbers to impress large demographics of buyers.
3. No individual nor group of people will ever get this industry to agree upon one standard of measurement or integrity of specification. As such, companies who do readily supply engineering data and response plots to their customers are at a comparative serious disadvantage. This is why hardly any companies ever supply them.
Redstar products may seem to be drivers in a box like most products on the market, but there's a reason that's the case as well. Customers want sufficient sound pressure in as compact a package as possible. They expect certain visual aspects in product design, and the majority shy away from radical departures. If proper engineering regardless of aesthetic appeal were the trump card in the industry, everybody would be purchasing Bill Fitz. boxes. Manufacturing businesses like to sell products, and try to align their products with consumer preferences. Manufacturing businesses also must try to achieve as high efficiency in their production as possible, as the lowest and least wasteful cost points, which usually means compromises. Additionally, innovators shy from full disclosure of proprietary IP from fear competitors with far greater production efficiencies and market penetration might dominate a newly wedged niche.
As I see it, until there's a reason for an upstart especially to proffer up honest specifications and their intellectual property, there is no reason for new businesses to disadvantage themselves in the market to win over tiny minority of individuals who wish to see detailed specifications and graphs and who possess the equipment necessary to verify such specs and graphs.
Someday in the future I plan to offer my own line of musical products that have taken me a long time, lots of money, and lots of effort to design. I'd like to make a living someday with said products. I also believe highly in ethics, integrity, honesty, and quality. As soon as there's no competitive disadvantage to plot honest plots and specs in this industry, my products will be among the first bared with full disclosure. I suspect a lot of small manufacturers in the industry feel likewise.
