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(regarding) that CLASSIC AMPEG SOUND (from a class-D amp??)
- Thread starter Andrew 1976 Ibanez 2353
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If this is a head only solution you might try to score a very used SVT 3PRO at that price, but more likely a PF will be in your range. The cabinet is probably going to be your limiting factor as that’s a huge portion of the sound.
I did an interesting experiment, with the Ampeg Scrambler DI into a GK800RB and a Fender sealed 2x12 cab. It had that gorgeous deep Ampeg sound that I got with my Ampeg V4-B and 2x15 cabinet.
I then tried the Scrambler into my MarkBass Micro and Mini combos (ported 1x8 and 2x8 speakers) and totally lost that deep tone.
I assumed the cabinets had a lot to do with what low frequencies were produced.
I then tried the Scrambler into my MarkBass Micro and Mini combos (ported 1x8 and 2x8 speakers) and totally lost that deep tone.
I assumed the cabinets had a lot to do with what low frequencies were produced.
As others have said, use whatever amp you want, just simply run a Sansamp (VT or BDDI) into the RETURN or in front of the amp with the controls set flat. You’ll get pretty close, particularly for bedroom rehearsal purposes.
I picked up an Ampeg SCR-DI a while back and really like it. My regular rig is all Ampeg, but some rehearsal studios have crap for a backline. When having to use other gear, I set and run the pedal into the amp, bypassing the preamp if such an input exists. When using my rig, I'll set the pedal with the Ultra Hi/Lo/Eq as desired as part of the tone-chain needed for one or 2 songs and only engage it on the fly for that. It also has an XLR and headphone out which is handy for home rehearsal. Cabs do play a role as well. I added a Scrambler pedal as my always-on overdrive pedal as well.
If just at home or recording, Id go with modeling . The Apollo Twin preamps from UAD have unison preamps (the analog circuitry is altered - you hear clicks ) and an included SVT CL model and IR modeled 810 comes free. It sounds really close - I had an SVT-CL and 810 to compare. I should post in soundcloud.
With all due respect, it's not even close to any SVT sound that I've ever heard. It sounds like any generic bass combo amp. And yes, I've regularly played through a BA-210v2 since I bought mine years ago. I had to add a 15" Celestion to try to get some of that rattle the floorboards low end that SVTs are known for.
As an SVT rig user for many years, I did this, but using full range speakers rather than traditional bass cabinets. Modelers I've used/currently use include the Fractal Audio AxeFxII, Zoom B3 & B3n, and the Atomic Amps Bass Box. I find that you can get a very, very good SVT rig emulation out of these devices, and a tone that will translate at ANY volume, whether home listening or live gigging. It's also a very practical approach, cost and space-wise, if you use the less expensive modelers (that are still very good sounding).
I'm pretty hardcore about the sonic realism of these modelers. If they sucked, I wouldn't use them...and...they definitely don't suck. I've been on this wagon for about 11 years and I'm not going back.
A pair of B100R combo's linked with the line-out mod on one would do the trick. Probably find them for around $300 each these day.
People are also practically giving away 'fridge's these days. Look for one local and get a used VB4
Whoops....didn't see the OP's $300 budget until now. Sorry.
People are also practically giving away 'fridge's these days. Look for one local and get a used VB4
Whoops....didn't see the OP's $300 budget until now. Sorry.
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if you have an audio interface you can Amplitube Ampeg with a iPhone, iPad, PC, or Mac. Several models and cabs are certified by Ampeg to be accurate.
If you like the sound, then you always have the opportunity to hunt down the hardware. Several other major manufacturers have certified amp sims to capture their sound. You can try them out too.
If you like the sound, then you always have the opportunity to hunt down the hardware. Several other major manufacturers have certified amp sims to capture their sound. You can try them out too.
No disrespect taken. However I don't think the 2×10 cab he has now is gonna do what a 'fridge can do either.
Best Ampeg-sounding class-D rig I've ever heard was a PF800 into an Ampeg cab that I forgot which model. Some of the BA combo line does pretty good too, as pointed out above. It's just that these are heavier than all heck as combos go.
Of course, anything with a legal Ampeg logo has the Ampeg sound!
Of course, anything with a legal Ampeg logo has the Ampeg sound!
Genz Benz Streamliner w/3 12AX7 tubes...if your looking for tube sound having tubes will go a long way.
I say get an Ampeg PF500 or PF800 because well they are Ampeg! Other than those you can get real close with a Genz Benz Streamliner. I know this cause I own the V4B Reissue and the GB Streamliner 600. You should be able to get the 600 used for within or close to your budget.
You are right. They definitely don't suck. I've got a VT Deluxe, a British pedal, and several modern plugins that are pretty sweet, and I use them, with the VT Deluxe the one I most lean on. But I still use an Ampeg tube amp or REDDI whenever possible and wouldn't dream of recording without one.
After playing with sealed 10s and becoming addicted to that tone early on, it's hard to disagree. since the SVT/810 is way too much for me to lift/transport/store I have a few substitutes... first it to use a tube amp and sealed 210s. I have a couple of sealed 210s and a 410 that I mate with a Traynor YBA200 (and soon to be with a YBA100). It's the sound I prefer, as well as the 'feel.' There's something special about the 'feel' and attack you get with sealed 10s and a tube amp. Since I ain't rich and pretty much a Traynor fanboy LOL, I've went that route.
This is all great info... I understand and appreciate your bullet points AND the way you explained your views. It really comes down to what AMP has the best SOUND at my price point. THANK YOU.
