I own both a Jazz and Precision from the Fender American Original series. Best basses I’ve ever owned. Vintage looks, feel, and sound with the reliability of modern production techniques and materials. Best of both worlds. Pic for jollies.
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Some of it may be pushback from the predominance -- near tyranny -- of Fender-ish basses, which by now have surpassed ubiquity. But that largely would be based on looks. The new Retros that are patterned after actual vintage models do not have the same pickups or electronics as the originals. But they will sound different from Fenders.
I don't need a Retro bass of choice; I have the originals.
And please notice, that in both these images, the bassists are thumb-plucking and leveraging the tug bar.
-- Danelectro has issued a number of models that didn't even exist in the old days, like long scale basses, while not making oddballs like the 15-fret shorthorns.
I've always said Old basses don't sound better than new ones...but they sound like the recordings we love and to me that's better.This 68 is definitely my number 1. Science has displayed that older instruments sound better. I can't argue with science. View attachment 3898840
I don't really agree with that, Brian. I know a lot of people who buy the newer ones for that exact reason...they don't sound like the originals and they feel better.
You could be right. Hard distinction to parse.I've always said Old basses don't sound better than new ones...but they sound like the recordings we love and to me that's better.
I guess it could be interpreted that way, but I look at it like they buy the new retros for both the look and sound. I certainly didn't buy my Jay Turser violin bass or my 09 Longhorn because I wanted retro looking basses that sound like an AlembicNo, you just agreed...I wrote 90% is the look. The buyers do not want (or care about) the retro feel and sound, only the look.
I never liked the way P basses feel or play, yet I own a 73 and 76. When I don't know what bass will be appropriate I bring a P..because I know nobody will be offended by that motown sound.You could be right. Hard distinction to parse.
When I hear retro bass I think of this type of style. Does anyone make anything similar today?
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Science says otherwise.
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Here is the science I was referring to. As I said, I am not sure how this squares with the study you cited and I don't have time to figure it out right now. I have a four year old bouncing off the walls!
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Also the better quality of lumber available at that time and how long it dried and aged before being used makes a big difference. Hardware and pickups have def improved over the yrs though.Thanks very much for posting that link, Doctor. Just speculating on how to reconcile the study you found and the one I linked to earlier: maybe instruments do get to be better with age but don't continue to do so forever. Maybe the effects of the vibrations eventually lead to breaking down of the wood fibers to the point that the tone suffers.
But if that takes a century or longer, it'll probably be a good long while before we have to worry about the tone of our basses deteriorating.
Very cool.. Some of those 70's lawsuit instruments are amazing!, My guitar player has a Japanese Les Paul that sounds better in my opinion than his new one.
Does anyone make anything similar today?