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Rick 4001 vs Peavey T40

go here: http://www.peaveyt60.com/mods&hotrodding.htm

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ok, that was interesting.
what kind of music is that?
original?

I can tell the difference...the Ric is the first clip...They both sound cool though!!!!

1) yep

2) yep

I didn't set out to make them alike, I just noticed it after the fact. One recording is several months older than the other. Both have a new set of D'Addario Pro Steels.
 
one thing i should mention

on live, the peavey is more like a kick ass bass!
it just BOOOOOOOMS!! and gets to everybody! is more like "here i go and i dont care" attitude which i must say, i love.

the rickenbacker is elegant for me, is "look my gorgeous tone you dumb ass, i aint cheap."

Is the cap still in your bridge pickup circuit in your 79? They have more balls with them bypassed, incidentally I have a 79 Mapleglo 4001.
 
Is the cap still in your bridge pickup circuit in your 79? They have more balls with them bypassed, incidentally I have a 79 Mapleglo 4001.

yes the cap is on..

and drong bring it back!!
it was hard for me to decide if i keep the cap or not.
i really love the way it sounds now.


i've heard a lot of 4003 players, wishing a 4001 just for that cap.
and you've just listened to a soundclip and couldn't tell the difference.. i dont know..

maybe i keep it the way it is.
 
BTW, on the Moving Pictures album, didn't Geddy use his Jazz not his Ric?

He used both. "Tom Sawyer" was recorded with the Jazz. "Red barchetta" and "Limelight" were recorded with the Ric. He talks about it [Invalid or Expired Link Removed] and BTW, the bass used for "YYZ" remains a mystery (I mean, pure speculations but not an "official" word about it as far as I've seen).
 
Alvaro Martín Gómez A.;7454097 said:
He used both. "Tom Sawyer" was recorded with the Jazz. "Red barchetta" and "Limelight" were recorded with the Ric. He talks about it [Invalid or Expired Link Removed] and BTW, the bass used for "YYZ" remains a mystery (I mean, pure speculations but not an "official" word about it as far as I've seen).

Thanks for the clip. For years I thought Moving Pictures was completely the Ric until I read Geddy used his Jazz for Tom Sawyer. I was shocked and even bummed because back in the pre-Steinberger 80s, when I thought Lee or Squire, only a Ric came to mind. From there I presumed the whole album was his Jazz; wrong again!
 
I'm at work so i can't listen to the clips in this particular discussion, but i'm surprised by a few comments. I have a basically brand new 4003 (built in january, bought new in march) which I love, as well as two T-40's, which I used to similar effect until i was able to buy the Ric. First off... I can't really imagine running the T-40 in humbucker mode and trying to cop a Ric tone that way. A lot of people refer to the single coil mode as the "ric mode", and i think it's for a reason, or at least my experience with both seems to align with that line of thinking. Running either of my T-40 in humbucker mode tends to generate a really high output humbucker sound, almost like a more full-range cousin of a Gibson style mudbucker (i also have a '73 Guild JS-2, which is a mudbucker equipped SG looking beastie). In single coil they're snapping and defined, which is where the Ric comparisons come in. They definitely can't "nail" the Ric sound, but they do a decent job of putting you in the ballpark. To me, the T-40 single coil sound has a slightly more nasal mid-range, whereas the Ric has a more rounded bottom end and a crisper high end.

Something to keep in mind with the T-40's is the variation in tone from bass to bass. My 1980 natural ash T-40 has a much thicker low end and more of a muted high end than my '79 black poplar/alder (impossible to tell which they used, since both were used that year), which is much thinner sounding, with much more high end available. Not sure if it's the difference in body wood, or something else, but the two basses sound quite different.

Between the two I'd take the Ric anyday, but the Peavey is a far better value. Either way, both basses are staying in my stable until someone pries em from my cold, dead hands. Can't really go wrong either way.
 

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