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Rickenbacker 4003 or Fender Jazz?

Which one for the price?

  • Rickenbacker 4003

  • US Fender Geddy Lee Jazz


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Jul 8, 2019
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Can't decide which to get. Never owned a Rick but have two Fender P basses. I am not a big fan of Rick because I have read most of the time the best sound you can get out of them is the Ric-o-sound thing. I kinda want something mostly for Rock and Metal.

That Rick twang that is unique.. well I feel the Stingray has a better high twang (hence the Stingray) but I've always preferred passive basses.
 
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I love Jazz basses, I have a few dozen. But, a Rick is a different animal indeed, and I have more Ricks than Jazz basses. If you truly want to be heard with a unique voice, get a Rick. You don't need to use the Rick-o-sound. Just run the bridge pickup alone without the vintage cap in the circuit. Instant clank and aggression that cuts. It's the opposite of the thin bridge-pickup-only Jazz sound and definitely the opposite of the scooped both-pickups-on Jazz sound.

But, it takes a while to get used to the ergonomics of a Rick. The first time I played one decades ago, I had to wrap a cloth around my forearm as the sharp edge cut into my wee man-boy arms at the time. But, that only lasted a day or two.

Remove the bridge cover, and plug into any amp. It's hard to get a bad sound out of a Rick. Neck pickup for great vintage tones, bridge pickup for Geddy Lee 70's aggression. Both pickups together are kinda meh, but alot of people like that flat boring tone.

Comparisons to a MusicMan are moot; the Rick has a midrange clank more than a high twang. It isn't an invisible or smiley-face eq bass.

Jazzes are nice, but are more of a generic tone (albeit a good one), and the way most people run them, are scooped and polite. Ricks are the opposite of that.

Just don't complain when the finish bubbles and lifts around the tailpiece, it's part of the Rick experience. Almost all of mine, even before the current paint formulation, have bubbled at least a little at the bridge going back to my '86 V63. It's just what they do, even when kept NOS.
 
The Ric would have to be exceptional and just the right color. I'm pretty sure I could get the right tone once I put some GHS black tapewounds on it.
Not sure what you want from it, though, but this sounds pretty good to me.

If it's this Geddy Lee, or something similarly unusual, it might be a better bet.
Is the one you're looking at a Japanese model?
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Wow.
Those are two different animals altogether!
I love Rics for their unique sound but they don't agree with my hands.
Jazz bass feels like home to me but they don't have the sound I want anymore.
I found my happy place with musicman style basses
Tough choice.
Best of luck in finding your sound

my 2 cents. Don't buy a Ric until you've played one (or five)
 
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Rics do a lot more thank clank. I've had dozens of them over the years 60's, 70's 80's and 2000's. Right now I own a 2018 4003s and it's my favorite Ric ever. I run the bridge pickup alone with the tone rolled back a bit, big beefy tone with notes that just cut through and sing with great sustain. I you crank the treble yhe bass gets that classic Yes sound.
I fight with my Jazz bass, it's a constant struggle with dead spots and a stacato upper register.
I would definitely give a Rickenbacker a try.
 
Can't decide which to get. Never owned a Rick but have two Fender P basses. I am not a big fan of Rick because I have read most of the time the best sound you can get out of them is the Ric-o-sound thing. I kinda want something mostly for Rock and Metal.

That Rick twang that is unique.. well I feel the Stingray has a better high twang (hence the Stingray) but I've always preferred passive basses.
The "Ric-o-sound thing" is definitely not run most of the time. Very few use it in real life and it's certainly not needed to get the ric's signature sounds.
 
If looking at a passive Jazz I prefer my Rickenbacker over any of them!
I have a CIJ Jaguar Deluxe that's pretty much an active Jazz and that often gets swapped in and out with my Rickenbacker
The Rickenbacker is the only bass that I don't just set and forget. Neck pickup as a full deep tone, while the bridge is slightly hotter and more in your face, both together gives a best of both worlds sound.
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OP, I did not see any effects listed on your profile. Just wondering if you have a pre-amp/DI?
I don't use the Rick-o-sound output, but with a Tech21 VT Bass DI, I get a great rick tone using VTBDI's SVT-style setting which tames the mids and boosts the bass. I use this setting for all my passive basses and SBMM stingray 25.
Erik Herman, that looks like an evil corner of your house!
 
My Ric 4003 is my #1 and I have two Jazz basses that are great too, but if you arent that into a Ric, I would get the Jazz instead. Just the ergonomics of a Ric throw lots of people off. And, Ive had two Rics now (both 4003s) and while I love the tones from them, they are not that far off from the Jazzes Ive had. My Rics have not been all "clank" at all and Ive had many comments from other bassists at gigs (who only have heard "famous" Rics in recordings) that they didnt know a Ric could sound "that fat"...I think they were expecting lots of highs and no lows. I would say that my Stingray is more clanky than my Rics but for most people, I would recommend a Jazz in the OPs situation.
 
IMO don't put too much stock in the Ric-O-Sound gimmick and get yourself a 4003S model. You'll have the added comfort and won't struggle with the ergonomics but you'll still end up with a tone that'll knock your socks off.

I never found much use for my Ric-o-Sound jack, but I love the combination of Ric + Darkglass. :drool: