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Rickenbacker copy
- Thread starter rakov
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Where are you from?
I can recommend you some german shops:
Musical instruments at Session Music (ehemals Musik-Schmidt)
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Career CB Rik 400.
I owned two of them yet, still own one (sold the other one because i wanted a different color). I like them, it's my main bass right now.
I can recommend you some german shops:
Musical instruments at Session Music (ehemals Musik-Schmidt)
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Career CB Rik 400.
I owned two of them yet, still own one (sold the other one because i wanted a different color). I like them, it's my main bass right now.
Ric5
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Nothing feigned or hypocritical about my reply. Say your livelihood was derived from music publishing and people were taking your music without your permission and then selling it to someone else, that would be okay in your book?
Nuff said. :scowl:
Coolhandjjl said:
By your logic no one should buy anything but a Fender if you want a P or J type bass.
The fact is Ric has only protected their designs in the US and legally anyone can sell or buy copies elsewhere.
Morally you can make a case but you'd have to extend it yo all brands and products to have any logic or consistency to your stance.
Not cool to call people creeps because you don't agree with their choice of instruments.
I guess there's something slightly different about buying a P or J type compared to asking for a "Rickenbacker copy". The latter implies you're ripping someone off.
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Except that "P" and "J" are actually just short-hand ways of saying "Precision" and "Jazz", both of which are Fender designed. The only difference is the existence of a copyright.
I know that. But when you buy one, you are not saying "Fender Precision Bass copy". The word 'copy' just reeks of cheesiness. To me, it also reflects a lack of personal authenticity in how one conducts their affairs.
Copyright, trademarks, tradedress, patents, etc, all serve a purpose. I would think that being a musician, one would have more respect for things like this as it intimately affects the entire music industry.
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If the OP said he wanted a "Rickenbacker-style" bass, would that change anything?
So Lakland, Sadowsky, Alleva Coppolo, etc are all in the wrong?
Oh, and Leo Fender is dead. It's not like he is benefiting form the sale of any Precision basses or Jazz basses anyways, Fender or not.
Fender WISHES they had protected their patented designs as well as RIC did. They tried to sue some copycats in the 70's or 80's I think, but a judge shot them down because they had allowed copies for so long without saying anything that they were ruled to have relinquished their rights to the design. Man, how different would lesser known brand guitars look if not allowed to copy Fenders?!? As far as other countries go, if it were possible to protect their designs there, RIC certainly would have, but alas, the rest of the world is not bound by our copyright laws. The bottom line is, RIC was a lot smarter than Fender or Gibson when it came to protecting their intellectual property, and that's why the American market is not flooded with RIC knockoffs.
Pretty bold. I own an Ibanez Rick copy, and I'm not going to be offended by your "creep" remark as I'm sure you'd never ever say that to anyone's face anyways. It's much easier to insult someone's choice of gear by hiding behind a computer screen...a real tough guy, here!
Ever heard the quote, "Imitation is the biggest form of flattery?"
Ever think that the collectability might have something to do with someone purchasing a Rick copy? You can go on Ebay and buy Ricks all day and night, but go find a legit copy from the 70's. They're MUCH harder to find.
That, or maybe someone can't afford a real Rick? At the end of the day, if they're rocking a Rick copy at a show and the crowd knows no difference, wouldn't Rick still be the company coming out on top on this one? Aren't they still being represented?
Legally-speaking, if the OP is in Europe and U.S. copyright infringement only applies in the U.S., he has every legal right to buy a Rickenbacker-copy in Europe.
... so you've judged your brother wrongly, haven't you.
What everyone seems to have missed here is that the OP is in no way implying he wishes to honor Rics design.
He just want's a bass that looks like a Ric, nothing honorable or dishonorable there.
And in reponse to your later comment, by all means copy my work, I am comfortable not being a greedy capitalist pig and sharing my talents with people who enjoy them.
