Rig Rethink....

[meisi]

Why go with the tried and true when you can complicate the bejesus out of it.

Because we can?

Why would I need to include the Rumble100 in the mix?

I don’t think OP needs to do anything.

But if they want to, see above.

 

[mambo4]

What am I missing here?

The microphone, mic placement, and room being recorded.
These things are of great importance to most recording engineers

 

[TheArchitect]

Well that wasn’t terribly obvious. An active splitter will get you into the pedals, but how do you plan on getting those 4 pedals (parallel processed) into your amp?

I think this is where the confusion comes from.

As I said in all the previous posts, I don't plan to run them all to the amp. They are going to the DAW

 

[Jack]

I am totally lost here. I too have a pedalboard that I was considering plugging into my Scarlett 2i2 to record some tracks from my fretless. Why would I need to include the Rumble100 in the mix? My board is simple, with just comp and some mod effects, like fuzz, octave and chorus. I think I will still need an amp sim in GarageBand but nothing else? What am I missing here?

Nothing, don't worry. Andy seems to think that the parallel sounds go into the amp. They don't. The amp is one of the parallel sounds that all go into the interface in the OP's proposed setup.

 

[Number179]

@meisi mentioned Saturnworks for the buffered splitter to go bass 1>4. They also make a summing mixer 4>1 device; but I guess the summing and blend is happening at the DAW. Check out saturnworks either way. Your creativity and over-complication needs will be met at saturnworks.

 

[agedhorse]

The microphone, mic placement, and room being recorded.
These things are of great importance to most recording engineers

Often MORE important than t he music itself...

Nothing, don't worry. Andy seems to think that the parallel sounds go into the amp. They don't. The amp is one of the parallel sounds that all go into the interface in the OP's proposed setup.

This would make more sense, but that's not how I saw the question as being asked. In this case, being able to select the parallel path being monitored adds a new complication...

 

[TheArchitect]

This is the way. Or simpler yet, DAW built-ins for FX and sims

I don't agree. I didn't invest all of the time, effort and money to build a rig that sounds exactly how I want it to, just to unplug it in favor of the most vanilla option possible when doing the most tone critical thing we do as musicians. Let's not overlook the fact that there is a DI on the board

 

[Jack]

Often MORE important than t he music itself...

Don't get me started...

This would make more sense, but that's not how I saw the question as being asked.

Is fine. You misunderstood and made a mistake. That puts you 54218 to 1, still ahead of most of us.

In this case, being able to select the parallel path being monitored adds a new complication...

Fix it in post!

 

[Pings Bass]

I don't agree. I didn't invest all of the time, effort and money to build a rig that sounds exactly how I want it to, just to unplug it in favor of the most vanilla option possible when doing the most tone critical thing we do as musicians. Let's not overlook the fact that there is a DI on the board

You do you

 

[agedhorse]

Don't get me started...


Is fine. You misunderstood and made a mistake. That puts you 54218 to 1, still ahead of most of us.


Fix it in post!

Well I'm not the only one who got confused, I'm still not entirely sure what's really being asked. Oh well, not my problem.

 

[meisi]

OP was perfectly clear in their first post, imo.

 

[TheArchitect]

I am totally lost here. I too have a pedalboard that I was considering plugging into my Scarlett 2i2 to record some tracks from my fretless. Why would I need to include the Rumble100 in the mix? My board is simple, with just comp and some mod effects, like fuzz, octave and chorus. I think I will still need an amp sim in GarageBand but nothing else? What am I missing here?

I would use the amp for the same reason you would add an amp sim....

 

[agedhorse]

OP was perfectly clear in their first post, imo.

I re-read the first post and disagree with your assessment, nowhere was the desired signal routing to the amp mentioned.

I deal with questions like this all the time as part of my day job. Asking a question without all of the information leads to guessing, leading to confusion.

You may not be confused if you happened to guess right. I don’t like to guess.

 

[TheArchitect]

I re-read the first post and disagree with your assessment, nowhere was the desired signal routing to the amp mentioned.

I deal with questions like this all the time as part of my day job. Asking a question without all of the information leads to guessing, leading to confusion.

You may not be confused if you happened to guess right. I don’t like to guess.

You didn't have to guess. In the 2nd sentence of the original post I told you specifically where the outputs were going.

"I am working on how to integrate the amp and board into a single setup for recording where the outputs of the Finally, Digbeth and the OE Super Vintage can all feed the DAW along with the mic on the amp."

That's as clear as clear gets.

 

[DJ Bebop]

As I said in all the previous posts, I don't plan to run them all to the amp. They are going to the DAW

So are you wanting the five different signals to go to five different tracks or inputs to the DAW four from the pedals with a fifth input for the mic’d sound of whatever going also into the Rumble,and you want the bass to go into each device separately or discreetly?

Am I understanding this right?

The part that is not clear, at least to me is in your description…
"I am working on how to integrate the amp and board into a single setup for recording where the outputs of the Finally, Digbeth and the OE Super Vintage can all feed the DAW along with the mic on the amp."

It doesn't indicate if these are discrete or parallel inputs to the DAW or a chained or cascaded into a mono signal from the pedals with a mic on the amp, then a mono signal from the pedal board to the amp.

 

[dougjwray]

You didn't have to guess. In the 2nd sentence of the original post I told you specifically where the outputs were going.

"I am working on how to integrate the amp and board into a single setup for recording where the outputs of the Finally, Digbeth and the OE Super Vintage can all feed the DAW along with the mic on the amp."

That's as clear as clear gets.

I think I see why agedhorse misunderstood you. It's your sentence structure. Tell me if I'm wrong, but I think you meant "...where the outputs of the Finally, Digbeth and OE Super Vintage, along with the mic on the amp, can all feed the DAW."

 

[TheArchitect]

So are you wanting the five different signals to go to five different tracks or inputs to the DAW four from the pedals with a fifth input for the mic’d sound of whatever going also into the Rumble,and you want the bass to go into each device separately or discreetly?

Am I understanding this right?

2 pedals, 1 DI and the amp Finally, Digbeth, SuperVintage and amp

The part that is not clear, at least to me is in your description…
"I am working on how to integrate the amp and board into a single setup for recording where the outputs of the Finally, Digbeth and the OE Super Vintage can all feed the DAW along with the mic on the amp."

It doesn't indicate if these are discrete or parallel inputs to the DAW or a chained or cascaded into a mono signal from the pedals with a mic on the amp, then a mono signal from the pedal board to the amp.

Discrete or or parallel? That doesn't even make sense. If they are discrete (ie 1 per input) they are discrete. If they are parallel, they would have to be discrete by definition. If they weren't they would have to be in series which makes even less sense. There are only 2 options here

 

[TheArchitect]

I think I see why agedhorse misunderstood you. It's your sentence structure. Tell me if I'm wrong, but I think you meant "...where the outputs of the Finally, Digbeth and OE Super Vintage, along with the mic on the amp, can all feed the DAW."

That means exactly the same thing as I said, so yes.

 

[DJ Bebop]

2 pedals, 1 DI and the amp Finally, Digbeth, SuperVintage and amp

Discrete or or parallel? That doesn't even make sense. If they are discrete (ie 1 per input) they are discrete. If they are parallel, they would have to be discrete by definition. If they weren't they would have to be in series which makes even less sense. There are only 2 options here

Sorry you misread what I said. Discrete and Parallel were meant to indicate the same thing, like when I also said next “or a chained or cascaded into a mono signal from the pedals with a mic on the amp, then a mono signal from the pedal board to the amp.”

I guess we are all not taking care to read each other's responses.

Again do you want the “2 pedals, 1 DI and the amp Finally, Digbeth, SuperVintage and amp” to go into individual channels of the DAW and a mono signal from the DI and pedals into the amp?

 

[agedhorse]

You didn't have to guess. In the 2nd sentence of the original post I told you specifically where the outputs were going.

"I am working on how to integrate the amp and board into a single setup for recording where the outputs of the Finally, Digbeth and the OE Super Vintage can all feed the DAW along with the mic on the amp."

That's as clear as clear gets.

Right, reread your last sentence. “They can all feed the DAW along with the mic on the amp”…

Exactly what feeds the input (not mic on amp which is a signal source not an input) of the amp? One pedal? All pedals? Something else?

Details matter.