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Road Worn Jazz Review

Really? With an eye closed test? No mojo bias?
I wonder why they would be so good. I find it hard to believe that Fender would put aside their best wood, thinnest finish and tightest pocket to this line. What gives?

If it's the mojo then I must be really losing it because last time I was there, the MIA Precisions all sounded radically different (flatter signal, not as warm or fat, and a lot more bland) than the two RW Precisions I tried which both had that great round tone. And the necks just feel awesome compared to the others.

I don't really GAS for Fenders, with a few Precision-y exceptions, and when I saw the ads for these I about fell off my chair laughing but I'm eating those words now. These are good basses.
 
I have an MIM 70's reissue jazz...basically the same thing as the road worn without the road or the worn, and this bass just kills. Slopeshoulder, I replaced the stock MIM pickups with a $250 pair of Nordstrands thinking to myself "if this bass sounds this good with MIM pups, I can't even imagine how it will sound with the Nordy's!' Well, after my first gig with the Nordy's, I knew I wasted a lot of money and time. I gave the Nordy's a few more chances, but ultimately dropped the stock pups back in. However obvious, perhaps it should be clarified that the MIM roadworns nail VINTAGE TONE in a way that the MIA stuff just doesn't. +1000 to the roadworns...the ones I have played are like butter baby!
 
There are several threads that discuss/speculate about why the RW basses are different sounding. IMHO, the wood has been selected to be good, but it's not super great flame maple, birdseye, or even super light—though it is generally light.

I do think they have aged or baked the wood in some way. It seems dry and resonant in an "old" way. The faux mojo doesn't matter to me, the sound does. The worn in feel of the neck and the Nitro, too, is nice to the touch. But that's not it. I have lots of basses, old and new. I think my RW is amazing for the money—someone said it nails vintage sound. I have to agree that is so.

My RW beat the pants off of my '60s classic—which I loved, btw.
 
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How much are they selling them for?

My impression is that the RWs haven't sold very well, which means there might be some serious deals ahead if shops start clearing them out.

well, in US dollars it would be around 1025$ but keep in mind the original price was approx. 1580$ before the discount.

still want to know - will the RW be as good soundwise and feelwise as an AV 62' Jazz or is the difference in quality matches the price difference?
 
Was $1580 the list or the sale price?

I'm a Road Worn true believer so I'm biased, but I'm going to say the RW will match the AV in terms of feel and sound. They are truly outstanding instruments. I tend to be nitpicky and perfectionistic when it comes to guitars and basses, and I feel precisely zero need to upgrade my Road Worn Jazz to something more upmarket.
 
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I'm not a Jazz Bass guy, but I had a '62 AV Precision, and I compared it back-to-back to a couple of the RW Precisions. They are different animals, to be sure.

Although I'm not hot on the look, the RW's sound and feel very good to me. However, I still preferred the AV. But I think the difference is close enough, that it would come down to what you're after.

The '62 is 1.75" wide at the nut, like a real early sixties P-bass. It's not a chubby "boat neck"- the shape is quite a shallow C, and the fingerboard feels wide and roomy. I suppose it's a shape you either love or hate. I have fairly large hands, and it felt both faster and more comfortable than the RW neck to me.

Compared to the RW, the AV neck didn't have that "broken in" feel, but it didn't feel stiff and new, like most MIM's and American Standards. I didn't find the gloss nitro finish on the back of the AV to be sticky at all, but I have fairly dry skin, and my sweat isn't very acidic. If you had "problem perspiration", then the RW might feel better to you, with the near-matte finish and all that raw wood.

Overall, the finish on the '62 is like having an NOS '62, instead of a battered old road-warrior. Unlike the awful yellow colour on the Japanese Vintage RI's, the lacquer has just the right amber tint to it. They must choose pretty choice pieces of Alder for the bodies as well, 'cause the grain on mine had a nice 3D look under the sunburst.

Meanwhile, I had an honest to goodness, beat-up '64 P-bass a number of years ago, and the RW basses totally miss the look. A real vintage bass has the "patina" that you see on old furniture- sure, it's worn and maybe a little beat up, but you can see that it's really good lumber, and there's a kind of hand-rubbed glow to it from all that handling. To my eyes, the wood in the RW's looks cheap, and they look dirty and mistreated rather than lovingly roadworn.

As far as relic finishes go, the AV was a good reminder of why Gibson and Fender switched from nitro to poly back in the day. I'm careful with my instruments, but the fragile finish on the AV picked up a lot of little dings during the year or so that I had it. Unless you're extremely impatient, I think it would be more fun to see how the AV relic'd on it's own, instead of accepting the every-one-looks-the-same fake relic job on the RW. It's a matter of taste, but I thought the RV looked more honest and less embarrassing than the faked-up finish on the RW. To me, that look alone is easily worth a few hundred dollars more than an RW.

Weight-wise, the AV was a little lighter. Sound-wise, I've only had the one, so I don't know if my AV was average, but it was definitely more resonant, more "alive" feeling than the RW's I've checked out. If I'd met them in a blind taste test, I would have guessed that the RW was basswood, and the AV was alder. The AV pickups come closer to the sound I remember from my '64. A little light on the low E string, until you dial up some bass on your amp, but then the sound blooms. And the bright top end goes nicely with the resonant body.

If you dig the fatness and more even tone that you get from putting a set of Nordy's into a hot-rodded modern P-bass, I think you'd find the AV to be pretty much the opposite. Strung with fresh roundwounds, my AV sounded raw and aggressive in a good way, a little more three-dimensional and open at the top end than an RW.

I also liked the details on the '62 AV. The tuners worked backwards, just like my '64. It had the same dead spots as my '64, and the same rubbery "funk" to the tone, that the new Am Standards seem to lack. The fancy tweed case is also a nice upgrade on the AV.

Price-wise, I lucked out on mine. I picked it up off eBay for a little less than $900 plus shipping. Assuming that a used RW would be worth about $600-700, I would have been quite happy to pay an extra $400 to $500 for the AV.

But I have big hands, and a fondness for the feel, the look and sound of vintage Fenders. If I had smaller, sweaty hands, liked the pre-relic'd finish of the RW and preferred the darker sound of hot-rodded basses, I might have gone the other way...
 
I do think they have aged or baked the wood in some way. It seems dry and resonant in an "old" way. The faux mojo doesn't matter to me, the sound does. The worn in feel of the neck and the Nitro, too, is nice to the touch. But that's not it. I have lots of basses, old and new. I think my RW is amazing for the money—someone said it nails vintage sound. I have to agree that is so.

I agree with this. I believe that Fender has done something to the wood with these.

My RW Precision does seem to have a "dryness" in the feel and sound that a "new wood" bass lacks.
 
I'm not a Jazz Bass guy, but I had a '62 AV Precision, and I compared it back-to-back to a couple of the RW Precisions. They are different animals, to be sure.

Although I'm not hot on the look, the RW's sound and feel very good to me. However, I still preferred the AV. But I think the difference is close enough, that it would come down to what you're after.

The '62 is 1.75" wide at the nut, like a real early sixties P-bass. It's not a chubby "boat neck"- the shape is quite a shallow C, and the fingerboard feels wide and roomy. I suppose it's a shape you either love or hate. I have fairly large hands, and it felt both faster and more comfortable than the RW neck to me.

Compared to the RW, the AV neck didn't have that "broken in" feel, but it didn't feel stiff and new, like most MIM's and American Standards. I didn't find the gloss nitro finish on the back of the AV to be sticky at all, but I have fairly dry skin, and my sweat isn't very acidic. If you had "problem perspiration", then the RW might feel better to you, with the near-matte finish and all that raw wood.

Overall, the finish on the '62 is like having an NOS '62, instead of a battered old road-warrior. Unlike the awful yellow colour on the Japanese Vintage RI's, the lacquer has just the right amber tint to it. They must choose pretty choice pieces of Alder for the bodies as well, 'cause the grain on mine had a nice 3D look under the sunburst.

Meanwhile, I had an honest to goodness, beat-up '64 P-bass a number of years ago, and the RW basses totally miss the look. A real vintage bass has the "patina" that you see on old furniture- sure, it's worn and maybe a little beat up, but you can see that it's really good lumber, and there's a kind of hand-rubbed glow to it from all that handling. To my eyes, the wood in the RW's looks cheap, and they look dirty and mistreated rather than lovingly roadworn.

As far as relic finishes go, the AV was a good reminder of why Gibson and Fender switched from nitro to poly back in the day. I'm careful with my instruments, but the fragile finish on the AV picked up a lot of little dings during the year or so that I had it. Unless you're extremely impatient, I think it would be more fun to see how the AV relic'd on it's own, instead of accepting the every-one-looks-the-same fake relic job on the RW. It's a matter of taste, but I thought the RV looked more honest and less embarrassing than the faked-up finish on the RW. To me, that look alone is easily worth a few hundred dollars more than an RW.

Weight-wise, the AV was a little lighter. Sound-wise, I've only had the one, so I don't know if my AV was average, but it was definitely more resonant, more "alive" feeling than the RW's I've checked out. If I'd met them in a blind taste test, I would have guessed that the RW was basswood, and the AV was alder. The AV pickups come closer to the sound I remember from my '64. A little light on the low E string, until you dial up some bass on your amp, but then the sound blooms. And the bright top end goes nicely with the resonant body.

If you dig the fatness and more even tone that you get from putting a set of Nordy's into a hot-rodded modern P-bass, I think you'd find the AV to be pretty much the opposite. Strung with fresh roundwounds, my AV sounded raw and aggressive in a good way, a little more three-dimensional and open at the top end than an RW.

I also liked the details on the '62 AV. The tuners worked backwards, just like my '64. It had the same dead spots as my '64, and the same rubbery "funk" to the tone, that the new Am Standards seem to lack. The fancy tweed case is also a nice upgrade on the AV.

Price-wise, I lucked out on mine. I picked it up off eBay for a little less than $900 plus shipping. Assuming that a used RW would be worth about $600-700, I would have been quite happy to pay an extra $400 to $500 for the AV.

But I have big hands, and a fondness for the feel, the look and sound of vintage Fenders. If I had smaller, sweaty hands, liked the pre-relic'd finish of the RW and preferred the darker sound of hot-rodded basses, I might have gone the other way...

Okay, I gotta argue with you a little bit :D...

I see nothing cheap about the wood in a Road Worn.

The wear on a bass can vary from lovingly worn-in to something a lot rougher. RWs fall somewhere inbetween. And I don't see any reason to be "embarrassed" by the RW finish, but I guess that's a personal preference thing (in fact I think it's an issue of morality for a lot of people, which is why RW discussions tend to get heated, but that's another subject).

The Road Worns I've played have been very lively and resonant -- like remarkably so. The typical experience people have with RWs is to come away impressed with how lively they are. Basswood is the last thing I would have assumed.

There is no raw wood on a RW's neck. It's matte lacquer in a pattern to simulate being worn to the wood. Over time the matte areas actually wear to a gloss from contact with your hand.

RWs have correct vintage details too -- reverse tuners, etc.

My .02 pesos.....
 
I gigged for years w/ a very early Fender Victor Bailey jazz bass I bought used froma rep for 1grand. It was nice but I was constantly having to adjust the truss rod, and I am not normally a fan of active basses since I use thomastic flats and like to use my hands to change the tone. I bought it for a band I really had a tough time cutting through. You know the scene...front man w/ a loud acoustic guitar he can't play or keep in tune ?!?! Anyway, one day a cple years ago I walk into the local music store and there is this beat up old school jazz bass hanging on the wall. I ask; "what is that? can I play it?" I plug in....wow. They explain what it is. I think ; "well i don't understand pre-beat up instruments but this thing feels great and it sounds really great, right on the $ actually". SO...hey want to trade straight up for a hi-end fender bass? they check out the VBG...done deal....and I couldn't be happier. Oh and in 2 years I've adj. the truss rod etc only seasonally. btw; i do a complete set -up to taste and expect to...install tTI flats, file nut slots, dress frets, adj. bridge intonation/height, pickups...etc...until it's just right. These basses are really nice. Spot on. And...my 65 can stay home.
 
I own a Road Worn Fiesta Red Jazz bass and all I can say it is the best Fender bass I have ever owned. As a matter of fact, I bought a Road Worn Jazz in Sunburst and a Road Worn Precision bass in Sunburst. These are very special basses. When you play one it feels and sounds like a 40+ year old bass. I own a American Vintage 62' Jazz and I usually compare everything Fender to it and I have to say these Road Worns definately are special.

How does the tone compare to the AV62?