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Robert Trujillo and Metallica

I like Metallica's music but can't stand Hetfield's voice. I really don't think anyone in the band is a great musician. They are functional for what they do but the music is very simple.
 
I watched this Youtube video about the bass player auditions Metallica did and his speed and technique impress me!

Trujillo sounds great as always, and I agree with you about the albums.

But can we all agree that Ulrich and Hetfield processing their feelings around 1:50 in that video is maybe the least metal thing ever? Also, kind of weird to show videos of the people who didn't make it. It's like Metallica's Got Talent.
 
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Yup. The other guys who auditioned all looked stiff and uncomfortable. Trujillo was crouched down like an animal, totally into the groove of the music he was playing.
I watched that video. Seemed to me the other guys were in over their heads in terms of speed and technical ability or just flat didn't know the material.

How do you audition for friggin' Metallica and not know the material!?
 
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Sarsippius here! The world-renowned Reptilian Lover! Now I KNOW dry and scaly, and Mettulaka dried up long ago! Trujillio is good like WHIP CREAM!

Sorry.... IG fan here.
I guess that sums up my actual point. Post-MTV Metallica sucked. Post-Napster Metallica sucked hard. Warner Bros / Marketing was the Master of those Puppets.
Trujillo rules and should be in a better band, but I like that he gets paid what he's been worth for so long.

"It's not about what he says; it's about what I feel" - Lars (THE douche)
 
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I got into metallica during high school cause of my friends (keep in mind this was in 2008) so i started digging & loved it. Kill em all to reload - yes i think i'm one of the few who actually liked load/reload albums. Then i heard st anger....it was weird as f**k. No solos, drop c tuned, it just felt like a demo album of raw material that wasn't mixed or complete. Later on death Magnetic came along and i used to like it. The more i listen to it, the more i grew to hate it.

Don't get me wrong Trujillo is an amazing bass player for his technique, but Metallica is lacking the monster sound they had. Maybe i'm just a Newsted fan For his diversity, beast back vocals (even leads sometimes) & just overall amazing guy. & i do love Burton too R.I.P. the foundation, the original. Nowadays, i can't enjoy metallica beyond AJFA (or & justice for Jason the bass boosted version :D ). The black album is overplayed, load/reload i can stand a few songs even master of puppets: i guess that's on me, i've overplayed it.
 
I was a HUGE Suicidal Tendecies fan back in the day, and LOVED Trujillo's work with them. And I was a HUGE Metallica fan in my teens.

Having said that, St. Anger turned me off to Metallica in a big way. I honestly haven't given Metallica another listen since then, so I don't have a frame of reference about Trujillo WITH Metallica...

To me, St. Anger was as bad as say Rush replacing Geddy Lee with say Dusty Hill from ZZ Top. Not that Dusty is bad by any means, just not fitting for Rush...
 
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The No Treble podcast did an episode where they interviewed Robert Trujillo. He is an awesome bass player, but he seems like a pretty cool dude- very Southern California chill. Super intelligent bass player too. It was an enjoyable listen.
 
I like Metallica's music but can't stand Hetfield's voice. I really don't think anyone in the band is a great musician. They are functional for what they do but the music is very simple.
They fit well together. The standout has always been Hetfield's rhythm playing, his right hand technique is amazing for that kind of music. He is the time keeper in the band.

Also, I met Robert Trujillo in a local restaurant (I was with a friend who knows him) shortly after he started playing with Metallica. What a nice, down-to-earth guy! When we asked what he had been doing, he shyly mentioned he was having such a great time playing with "the guys". We had to ask, "you mean Metallica"? He struck me as a centered guy with zero ego issues, happy with his good fortune. Color me impressed.
 
LOL! I stopped reading at "At 50yrs old his finger playing is so fast". *sigh*

As far as who he was up against in those auditions, it certainly serves to say they edited that to make him look like the clear winner there so that's no shock. The competition shown wasn't anything to be run over by either. Trujillo doesn't really have a Metal background to begin with. His work with Ozzy/BLS being the jist of his "Metal" playing/work.

As far as his chops, he's a good bass player and does his own thing, sometimes his tone is a little too mushy for me personally but all in all it works under the current Metallica cover bands sound.

Now here comes the sad part, Metallica is not about making music or honing your craft. Rob has honestly regressed some since being their hired hand. DM has potential for sure but nope they went and shaged it all up in the way only they could do it...

Guitar Tone: Thin, Pathetic, Weak
Vocals: Not a care in the world for being in tune or even filtered, nope..just spit into an open mic dry as hell and yep, that will do.
Drums: No kick drum, weak, and sloppy playing (no shock there)
Leads: Wah Wah diddle diddle Wah Wah Wah...*crank whammy bar* Waaaaaah
Bass: Not that bad actually considering the above, nobodys tone could shine through that pile of excrement..Rob gets a pass

Now you are thinking "Sheesh, you really hate Metallica eh?"...Answer: Nope, been my favorite band since I was a kid but I am not blind and most certainly I am not deaf. They have become a parody of themselves and they have no standard for their music, they will literally slap anything on and call it a record, yet still take a year plus and god knows how many millions to do so.

Again, Metallica aren't about making music or focusing on musicianship..that ship sailed nearly 20yrs ago by now. Every single one of them have declined in their musical ability, why? Because they don't practice or respect their craft. When was the last time any of them did any musical project outside the machine known as Metallica? Don't worry, i'll wait...

Kirk and Lars are by far the worst of the bunch, the weakest links. Lars because he is a douche he blatantly states that he doesn't practice ever and that he has regressed. Kirk? This one to me is a baffling mystery, it is as if he has forgotten all the basics of guitar playing because Kirk's work from 83-93 is a completely different musician, hell give him until 1999 to be nice if you like. He literally cannot play in tune to save his life...literally! His vibrato is so goddamn out of tune that he is either deaf or has arthritis in his hands...i'd at least respect him if he came out and admitted having arthritis or something because fuuuuck makes no sense at all otherwise.

James: Still seems to have his guitar chops for the most part, a little played out in some spots but again they don't play music much but he remains the strong link in that chain by far

Rob: Hired hand who has been with the band for 14yrs now and has one album under his belt. Poor guy, he got the leftovers after Newsted bailed off that sinking ship. lol


I have no expectations for their next album, it should be out around 2021 or so...I mean why put out an album more than once every 10yrs? That would be too musician like, nah let's tour Europe constantly playing the same worn out crap, I mean hey people keep paying for it, why not?

LOAD & RELOAD: Man, people give these albums absolutely hell but the funny thing about those albums is that they had some of the best guitar/bass tones and drum sounds and production of their entire catalog. I have said it and will say it again, IF Death Magnetic had those tones/production it would have been epic.

I could go on and on about those clowns now...30+yrs being professional musicians and they cannot produce a decent sounding album to save their lives and they slap anything on, no standard, nothing left and it's sad but true....
 
Robert Trujillo is an artist right now and always will be. He is a lifer. The other three, the Metallica founders, they have not been artists for years and probably never will be again. They are very lucky to have him, and I'm sure they know it.

As I stated, Rob has regressed in his playing since being with them. How could it not? He isn't with other musicians, once you are part of the Metallica machine, you are stuck. They aren't a normal "band", they are a conglomerate more like a corporation than a band.

James and Rob remain the talent of the group but that's fading fast since Hetfield wouldn't know a decent guitar tone (for an album anyway) if it hit him in the face.

They fit well together. The standout has always been Hetfield's rhythm playing, his right hand technique is amazing for that kind of music. He is the time keeper in the band.

Also, I met Robert Trujillo in a local restaurant (I was with a friend who knows him) shortly after he started playing with Metallica. What a nice, down-to-earth guy! When we asked what he had been doing, he shyly mentioned he was having such a great time playing with "the guys". We had to ask, "you mean Metallica"? He struck me as a centered guy with zero ego issues, happy with his good fortune. Color me impressed.

Yeah, he has always been a musician, interested in well..making and playing music. He was all over the place in the past, Ozzy/BLS and some other side things...now? Stuck!
 
Metal fans are so close minded sometimes. The only Metallica album not worth owning (besides Lulu which is different since it's a collaboration) is St Anger. The production and arranging and singing on that was just a disaster. The band was at their lowest point and it shows. They could probably take 3-6 months and chop up the arrangements and tweak a few things and re-record it and it could be pretty good (maybe).

Each one they've done has had it's own personality and vibe. Even Load/Reload which are definitely the closest, since they were recording mostly at the same time. If you go into those expecting 14 tracks a piece of Creeping Death and Damage Inc, of course you'll be disappointed. That's what these dudes were doing 10-12 years earlier. Doing the same album again and again would make them AC/DC, and who really listens to anything much past Back in Black from those guys?

Definitely don't understand the people that dislike the Black Album. There's a reason it's one of the few Diamond metal albums out there (the only one?). It's because every riff, lick, drum hit, and vocal is perfectly executed and placed. The only "fault" you could maybe find is that the overall sound could be a bit "beefier" maybe. But if you have a good, big stereo, trust me, you won't be asking "where's the beef?". The DVD-A version is better too, but good luck finding it these days (or a player that can play it). Load/Reload got the sound right (the last time Metallica had GREAT production on an album), but there were a few "misses" among the "hits" (Outlaw Torn can stand among any of the greatest Metallica tracks). Out of the full 150m, if you can't find enough great stuff to fill most of a CD, you aren't trying very hard at all. Until It Sleeps was probably just not a great first look at that era of Metallica, and if they had put out something else as the first single, the public response to the album would have been much different. Do people talk sh! about Escape as if it defines RTL? No, of course not.

Death Magnetic is probably cooler overall musically than those 2, but it suffers some from the "volume wars" production. If it had the fat L/RL style production, it would be amazing.
 
I like Metallica's music but can't stand Hetfield's voice. I really don't think anyone in the band is a great musician. They are functional for what they do but the music is very simple.

Lars sucks, Hammet (sic- yea that's right, I didn't spend two seconds to look up his name on google) is a joke, but Hetfield definitely has lots-o-talent, whether you like his voice or not. Rob and Jason can also play. So you're half right I guess. :-)
 
LOL! I stopped reading at "At 50yrs old his finger playing is so fast". *sigh*

As far as who he was up against in those auditions, it certainly serves to say they edited that to make him look like the clear winner there so that's no shock. The competition shown wasn't anything to be run over by either. Trujillo doesn't really have a Metal background to begin with. His work with Ozzy/BLS being the jist of his "Metal" playing/work.

As far as his chops, he's a good bass player and does his own thing, sometimes his tone is a little too mushy for me personally but all in all it works under the current Metallica cover bands sound.

Now here comes the sad part, Metallica is not about making music or honing your craft. Rob has honestly regressed some since being their hired hand. DM has potential for sure but nope they went and ****ed it all up in the way only they could do it...

Guitar Tone: Thin, Pathetic, Weak
Vocals: Not a care in the world for being in tune or even filtered, nope..just spit into an open mic dry as hell and yep, that will do.
Drums: No kick drum, weak, and sloppy playing (no shock there)
Leads: Wah Wah diddle diddle Wah Wah Wah...*crank whammy bar* Waaaaaah
Bass: Not that bad actually considering the above, nobodys tone could shine through that pile of excrement..Rob gets a pass

Now you are thinking "Sheesh, you really hate Metallica eh?"...Answer: Nope, been my favorite band since I was a kid but I am not blind and most certainly I am not deaf. They have become a parody of themselves and they have no standard for their music, they will literally slap anything on and call it a record, yet still take a year plus and god knows how many millions to do so.

Again, Metallica aren't about making music or focusing on musicianship..that ship sailed nearly 20yrs ago by now. Every single one of them have declined in their musical ability, why? Because they don't practice or respect their craft. When was the last time any of them did any musical project outside the machine known as Metallica? Don't worry, i'll wait...

Kirk and Lars are by far the worst of the bunch, the weakest links. Lars because he is a douche he blatantly states that he doesn't practice ever and that he has regressed. Kirk? This one to me is a baffling mystery, it is as if he has forgotten all the basics of guitar playing because Kirk's work from 83-93 is a completely different musician, hell give him until 1999 to be nice if you like. He literally cannot play in tune to save his life...literally! His vibrato is so goddamn out of tune that he is either deaf or has arthritis in his hands...i'd at least respect him if he came out and admitted having arthritis or something because fuuuuck makes no sense at all otherwise.

James: Still seems to have his guitar chops for the most part, a little played out in some spots but again they don't play music much but he remains the strong link in that chain by far

Rob: Hired hand who has been with the band for 14yrs now and has one album under his belt. Poor guy, he got the leftovers after Newsted bailed off that sinking ship. lol


I have no expectations for their next album, it should be out around 2021 or so...I mean why put out an album more than once every 10yrs? That would be too musician like, nah let's tour Europe constantly playing the same worn out crap, I mean hey people keep paying for it, why not?

LOAD & RELOAD: Man, people give these albums absolutely hell but the funny thing about those albums is that they had some of the best guitar/bass tones and drum sounds and production of their entire catalog. I have said it and will say it again, IF Death Magnetic had those tones/production it would have been epic.

I could go on and on about those clowns now...30+yrs being professional musicians and they cannot produce a decent sounding album to save their lives and they slap anything on, no standard, nothing left and it's sad but true....

Sadly, this is almost entirely true. Especially about Kirk. I thought he was a pretty tasty lead player in the early days but then he discovered the crybaby. RIP to the glory days.