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rock is dying ??

Rock is not dying.

Rock music is changing, as it always has. Genres are mixing. Dubstep is getting its moment in the sun, it will make its mark on the pop and rock genres, and then some other trend will come along.

The word 'rock' isn't even a useful distinction anymore, except in the broadest sense. It's like how 'classical' started out meaning Western art music between 1750 and 1830, but now encompasses the 1500s through the present.
 
Neil Young said it man, Rock and roll will never die.

Trends come and go, but rock remains.

I've seen my 13 year old girls get into the worst of the worst current music (I'm talking Bieber here fellas), but at the end of the day, their favorite video game is Rock Band - where they are introduced to some really great music.

They know they lyrics to pretty much anything Journey or Bon Jovi ever did better than I do (and I'm class of 1988).

I wouldn't worry too much about it. If we are honest with ourselves, we all probably had some guilty pleasure favorites when we were kids. You know before we hit our "Zeppelin phases."

:D
 
i´m 21, so most of my friends are between 20 and 30.
nor sure if it´s just coincidence, that the majority of them likes rock / metal (NOT the metal based on silly growlin´ and screamin´) a lot. some of them even have a player for their shelf full of old records, and are still buying more.

it might seem dead on stage, but at least it is not in people´s minds
 
For the most part......

People loving 50's music heard the 60's and thought...what's this crap, and go cut your hair!
People loving 60's music heard the 70's and thought....what's this crap, where is my car, why is the sun smiling?
People loving 70's music heard the 80's and thought....whats this crap.... and is that a dude or a chick man?
People loving 80's music that didn't die of hairspray poisoning heard the 90's and thought....where exactly do you buy an old flannel sweater in this mall...oh, and what's this crap?
People loving the 90's (like me) miss hearing new big rock on mainstream radio in the 00's and 10's, but it's still there if you look....and, doesn't this dubstep crap sound like Transformers in heat?

I get inspired by plenty of new bands still out there pushing rock, it's just rare that we(hopeful) / they get magazine covers.
 
it dosent help the the "Rock n Roll hall of fame" (shame) has inducted people like madonna and grand master flash.
rocks gone sorta back underground which is good IMO for the grassroots development of new musicians, where hopefully truer talent (cream of the crop) will rise to the top. UNLIKE POP, DUB, DANCE, ETC... where anybody with a look can be produced and autotuned to 15min of fame. yes there is difference between an "artist" and a "musician" IMO.
 
There's loads of new rock thats extremely awesome. Saying some genre is dying just tells me you are out of touch with music these days and too stubborn to find out what's good right now. Nobody wants to hear Smoke on the Water or Whole Lotta Love or Paranoid every hour on every rock station anymore.

the last good batch of rock bands were some of the 90's grunge bands like AIC (R.I.P. Layne), Soundgarden, Primus & STP etc.. and there's still the Red Hot Chili Peppers.. and there really isn't much that has come along since to replace them.
Last bunch? Abso-fking-lutely not. Have you looked? Honestly? Even the last couple years there's been solid rock groups that are very public and not underground at all. Did you just write them off? I wonder if you even listen to new music at all. I'm sure you've heard their band names being flung around plenty of times, you just ignore it under the assumption that new stuff is crap. (this isn't meant to single out the dude that typed this, which is why I removed the name, but I am singling out that line of thought.)

...Hammond organ. :hiding: . Now who actually plays those old beasts nowadays? And in rock context?

Shall I give examples? I know plenty. Does using them mainly for studio recording (and not touring) count? I mean, even I've used one for a studio recording in a rock context. And the guy that owns it says it gets plenty of use.
 
VanillaThundah said:
depends on the crowd you are in...I still listen to and buy records, and I'm barely 24 =/

+1 About to turn 25 and still spend hours at the record shop rifling through bins looking for "better music".


I think it has to do with laziness. It takes years to learn an instrument and a decent amount of money. Everyone has a computer and you can pretty much torrent any writing program for no cost at all. Also, most people are idiots no matter what age group. With all the "popular" social media pointed directly at everyone all the time, most people just go along. Hardly anyone spends as much time looking for new music as they spend on their Facebook. It's all spoon fed for the masses.
 
+1 About to turn 25 and still spend hours at the record shop rifling through bins looking for "better music".


I think it has to do with laziness. It takes years to learn an instrument and a decent amount of money. Everyone has a computer and you can pretty much torrent any writing program for no cost at all. Also, most people are idiots no matter what age group. With all the "popular" social media pointed directly at everyone all the time, most people just go along. Hardly anyone spends as much time looking for new music as they spend on their Facebook. It's all spoon fed for the masses.

Words of wisdom.
 
Popular music is moving away from the 'experience' rather into a social event. Hence, bands that can put on a show and get people dancing/moving/having a good time should not have problems getting gigs. While the more serious ones would expect to get gigs but in the realm of dedicated fans of the genre or band/artist.

Which is fine and what it used to be.
 
I think, and its sad, but dubstep, and all this mainstream crap is taking over. I mean, rock is still alive, but just barely. lol me and my buddy are the only ones who listen to old metallica, some dio, sabbath, throw some maiden in too. but even the "rockers" at my school only listen to crap like.. all that remains.. and idk.. foo fighters. I dont even like the mainstream rock anymore. its too played out. idk.
 
+1 About to turn 25 and still spend hours at the record shop rifling through bins looking for "better music".


I think it has to do with laziness. It takes years to learn an instrument and a decent amount of money. Everyone has a computer and you can pretty much torrent any writing program for no cost at all. Also, most people are idiots no matter what age group. With all the "popular" social media pointed directly at everyone all the time, most people just go along. Hardly anyone spends as much time looking for new music as they spend on their Facebook. It's all spoon fed for the masses.

Couldn't disagree more. I've gotten into using Reason, Logic, etc. to compose in the last couple of years and the learning curve is very steep. I encourage everyone to try writing and arranging a tune in a DAW. You'll soon see that you need to be aware of the sonic space, how all the parts interact with each other, how it's not just about a bass line or any one instrument but that it's about the song. This plus the technical knowledge and being able to read and write music, no small feat. I've dissected a couple of Skrillex tunes for example and they're very, very well composed and played pieces of music. That coupled with his distinctive production creates a very unique sound not unlike how Zeppelin sounded like nothing before them in the day. I give the guy and all these new musicians a ton of respect. Yes it's about a social thing, also called an experience. I never had the major festival thing like Lolla, Pitchfork, etc. growing up (I'm 57 BTW) but to say that people are being force fed music today is just ridiculous. The tools and resources available (YouTube, online tutorials, etc.) I would have killed for when I was studying. And yes things will always evolve with different distribution channels and such so you better get used to it or get left behind. Just like the player who can play electric, upright, read charts, has a 5 string gets more gigs same goes for the new era of player who can not only play bass but double on keyboard synth, program beats and arrange. A good example is Mike Elizondo. Why not embrace all the new without tossing out the tradition instead of getting defensive about it? I think it's a lot more fun now with all these things happening and I'm enjoying playing more than I ever have. One last thing, there's a reason that the music on the charts is on the charts. To be really successful in this business (and it is a business) you should listen and figure out what people are responding to. If that's a root, five pattern or a dubstep wobble learn how to do it and expand upon it and you'll have a successful career as a musician. Or else just sit home, stream WXRT on the web and pretend it's still the 70s. Just so you don't think I'm being one-sided in my listening, this past year I saw Deep Purple, Steely Dan and the remnants of Boston in their new group in addition to Dub Trio, Eminem, Phantogram, Ellie Goulding, Skrillex, the Deftones, Fitz and the Tantrums, Three Days Grace, Grace Potter and the Nocturnals, Two Door Cinema Club, Joan Osborne, Black Dub, and a lot more and they all rocked!
 
They've been saying rock is dying since before the Beatles broke.

And each time they said it, they were right. Rock dies a little, sometimes. But it is always born anew.

For me, rock and roll will never die. I play it, and people come see it. And they like it.

Will it make me rich? I doubt it.

Will it die?

No.

Bob Dylan said it best:

"He not busy being born is busy dying."

They never did get much past old Bob.

Probably, they still don't.
 

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