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Rocksmith/Bandfuse...

#141
Bought RS14 on amazon last night to play along with the wife! Very excited to see it come in.

I am interested in getting a used copy of RS12 also to transfer the old songs in. I am wondering if I would need a special cable for RS12 (is it the same cable as 14?). Copies without the cable are much cheaper generally.
 
#144
For PS3 all you have to do is log in and create a profile so you have a save, you never need to play anything. You can resell the game after like Paladin did. You could also rent it if you can still find an actual video store.

Sadly, Gamefly doesn't seem to have the first one in their stock. Could have gotten the free trial and not have it cost you a dime (Ubi might have had something to do with it).

Seems you can get a copy with no cable for 15 bucks or so, add the 10 and its well worth it for the songs.

I kinda screwed myself over, had it for ps3 (got rid of it) and bought 14 on PC through steam.
 
#145
Just got Bandfuse today. I have owned both Rocksmiths. Way to early to give it a review but I can say I already see things I don't like.

1. The UI and navigation seem worse then the original rocksmith. Quitting out of a song takes you all to the start of the game. Maybe I'm doing something wrong. RS14 integrated the modes really well.

2. I love that it uses tab but I don't like not being able to see notes that are farther away. The video is a waste of screen although I'm not sure how you would use more of it for a single player.



Very brief time played so maybe I'll know more when I get a chance to get into it again.
 
#146
Hoping that any Mac users may be able to help. Just received Rocksmith 2014 and would like to install it on my MacBook Pro and then connect to tv. The only problem i have is that my MacBook Pro is a company laptop and i don't have administrator rights to install anything in application folder. Can i install and run Rocksmith just off the desktop?
 
#147
Sidewinder7 said:
Just got Bandfuse today. I have owned both Rocksmiths. Way to early to give it a review but I can say I already see things I don't like.

1. The UI and navigation seem worse then the original rocksmith. Quitting out of a song takes you all to the start of the game. Maybe I'm doing something wrong. RS14 integrated the modes really well.

2. I love that it uses tab but I don't like not being able to see notes that are farther away. The video is a waste of screen although I'm not sure how you would use more of it for a single player.



Very brief time played so maybe I'll know more when I get a chance to get into it again.
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Good stuff. I have both rocks and was considering fuse but it's not getting good reviews for beginners. They are saying its good for experienced players because there isn't much instruction.
 
#148
jjbing3 said:
Good stuff. I have both rocks and was considering fuse but it's not getting good reviews for beginners. They are saying its good for experienced players because there isn't much instruction.
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Yea Rocksmith presents instruction well for beginners. When you first play a song that has techniques (hammer ons/offs slides, palm mutes) that you have not seen in the game yet, it will recommend the lesson to you and a guitarcade game to practice it. It will also automatically recommend a riff repeater for parts of the songs you have trouble with.

I don't believe Bandfuse does that. You have to seek out when you see a foreign symbol in the game. (NOTE I have very limited experience in BF, might be wrong).
 
#149
Sidewinder7 said:
For PS3 all you have to do is log in and create a profile so you have a save, you never need to play anything. You can resell the game after like Paladin did. You could also rent it if you can still find an actual video store.

Sadly, Gamefly doesn't seem to have the first one in their stock. Could have gotten the free trial and not have it cost you a dime (Ubi might have had something to do with it).

Seems you can get a copy with no cable for 15 bucks or so, add the 10 and its well worth it for the songs.

I kinda screwed myself over, had it for ps3 (got rid of it) and bought 14 on PC through steam.
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Thanks,
Did this and it loaded the old songs perfectly. I have only had time to try out the game with guitar so far, and while it is fun I have 2 gripes:
-Too much metal! I know... its just a matter of preference, but it would be nice to have more R&B, Jazz (none so far), funk, blues type songs.
-The note highway is quite confusing, as it is a mirror image of regular guitar tabs. This definitely takes some getting used to, especially for guitar.

Otherwise, it's fun! I look forward to learning some songs to supplement my Hal Leonard self-study
 
#150
In the settings you can flip the highway so the e string is on the bottom like normal tab.

I will say having both for a short while I will further amend my review.

RS does a much better job of instruction and helping you work through parts you need help with and makes it easier to do so.

I'm glad I have both. I may start doing a short session of RS to warm up and do some instruction, maybe play the songs I like and then also play some BF to really jam.
 
#155
Played bandfuse some more today. Not playing alot right now as I have been away from home and I have some latency with Bandfuse. Its playable but annoying. HDMI and Optical give me latency. Ordered a PS3 AV cable and waiting for that. Likely thew my old one away thinking I would never use it. The latency is odd cause I ran the original rocksmith with no latency even with an HDMI.

Ok some more thoughts:

1. Man it is tough to follow the tab if you are used to rocksmith. The colors for fingers are really screwing me up. Just a matter of time to get used to it, but at first its rough.

2. Scoring. This is pure personal preference but I like the way Rocksmith handles scoring. Rocksmith scores you per song, based on mastery. You could nail a song at lower difficulty, and get 20% mastery. Bandfuse has a different score per difficulty level for each song. (this brings me to 3) I look at this as a negative but many may like this.

3. I like the sliding difficulty of RS. It has so many more difficulty levels and it changes on the fly. If you are nailing a song, it automatically ramps up. Vice versa if you struggle. BF has 3-5 difficulty levels depending on the song. Have to quit out on the song to change them.

4. Lessons: As others have said, no comparison, RS blows it out of the water.

Sounds like I hate BF but I really don't. So far I just think RS does it better. I will continue to play it to become more familiar with tab but RS will get alot more of my time. BF will be nice to change it up. It is also a pain to drag a chair and the bass into the living room to play instead of being able to plop down at the PC with the bass right next to me ready to go.
 
#156
Sidewinder7 said:
Played bandfuse some more today. Not playing alot right now as I have been away from home and I have some latency with Bandfuse. Its playable but annoying. HDMI and Optical give me latency. Ordered a PS3 AV cable and waiting for that. Likely thew my old one away thinking I would never use it. The latency is odd cause I ran the original rocksmith with no latency even with an HDMI.

Ok some more thoughts:

1. Man it is tough to follow the tab if you are used to rocksmith. The colors for fingers are really screwing me up. Just a matter of time to get used to it, but at first its rough.

2. Scoring. This is pure personal preference but I like the way Rocksmith handles scoring. Rocksmith scores you per song, based on mastery. You could nail a song at lower difficulty, and get 20% mastery. Bandfuse has a different score per difficulty level for each song. (this brings me to 3) I look at this as a negative but many may like this.

3. I like the sliding difficulty of RS. It has so many more difficulty levels and it changes on the fly. If you are nailing a song, it automatically ramps up. Vice versa if you struggle. BF has 3-5 difficulty levels depending on the song. Have to quit out on the song to change them.

4. Lessons: As others have said, no comparison, RS blows it out of the water.

Sounds like I hate BF but I really don't. So far I just think RS does it better. I will continue to play it to become more familiar with tab but RS will get alot more of my time. BF will be nice to change it up. It is also a pain to drag a chair and the bass into the living room to play instead of being able to plop down at the PC with the bass right next to me ready to go.
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Good stuff. Sounds like I made the right decision. *jazzsmith or rnb smith would be awesome* we could get some earth, wind, and fire, more marvin Gaye and Motown stuff, the roots, Jill Scott, musiq soulchild, etc... (Ohh what a Dream) I have it for PS3 so no customs for me :-(
 
#157
I've played both games as an experienced bassist but have picked up the guitar for the first time and are using them to help me learn the instrument. My general thoughts about that experience so far (in no particular order):

1. RS has excellent lessons for a beginner. I especially found the lessons on chords to be useful. That is not to say BF doesn't offer any useful lessons because it does. While the BF lessons are a little more complicated to navigate, there are some excellent scale tutorials accompanied by backing tracks that allow for some free-form jamming within the scale.

2. In terms of learning songs, RS is almost completely worthless for me. Remember, I'm talking about guitar now, not bass. I cannot read the RS note highway at all when it comes to chords. Single notes on my bass? No problem. Chords as a newbie guitarist? A complete exercise in frustration. I'm sure it would get easier once I become better at automatically recognizing chord patterns but as a beginner I find the RS note highway to be a jumbled mess when several chords come at me at once.

Alternatively, BF allows me to to slowly ease into the songs based on the difficulty level I choose. Level 1 is mostly single root notes and was pretty easy for me to get through. It was a great help to me to play at this level just to get used to picking each of these six tiny strings (which after exclusively playing fingerstyle bass for 25 years is not easy for me to get used to!). Level 2 is again mostly single root notes but with a few two-string chords added. I've spent the majority of my time playing songs at Level 2. The tab scroll is much MUCH easier to understand, the colors indicate which fingers I should use on which string and I was able to get through entire songs the very first time I attempted them....very much unlike RS.

3. Recording. I've mentioned this before but the inability to record from RS is a huge failing for me. Hopefully they correct that in the next version. BF records everything you play and gives you the option to save it or simply disregard it and move on. I'm very big into recording things I play. Its probably the single best tool I've used to improve as a bassist over the years and its helping me a lot as I begin my journey to learn the guitar. Right now I'm too busy looking at my hands trying to figure out chords, etc. when I'm playing and its extremely helpful to be able to sit back and listen to what I've just played.

4. Ducking. This doesn't get mentioned enough but BF actually removes the instrument you're playing from the songs so when you're playing a tune with your bass, the bass track from the song is removed entirely so you only hear what YOU are playing. Same with guitar. You can choose to add the original instrument track back if, for instance, you would rather play "Roundabout" with Chris Squier's bass line actually playing behind you. But the ability to remove his bass track leaving only your bass is quite awesome....especially coupled with recording so you can sit back and listen to exactly how you sound with no other bass parts playing to muddy it up.

5. Overall I find both games useful as beginning guitar player. I use the RS lessons to help me with technique and learning some basic fundamentals. I use BF when I want to actually play songs, record them or jam scales (you can also jam scales in the Session Mode of RS, which is pretty cool, but again, the inability to record it is less helpful to me than the BF scale tutorials). Both games are worth having and I want them both to succeed and continue forward.
 
#158
I decided to give Rocksmith a play today. Installation was pretty straight forward on my MacBook Pro and it looked and sounded great on the big tele.

Now, i have to preface this and say i've never been a 'gamer' of any kind. Don't get me wrong. I have nothing against games but i think this may be why i really don't like the Rocksmith experience so far.

Since picking up the bass a month or so ago, i've been using the Bassmethod book and really enjoying it. It's taught me how to read music and i find its structured approach more me. I like to look at a piece of music, work out what the notes are doing and then start (badly) trying to play it.

I've found Rocksmith almost counter-intuitive. Instead of enjoying the experience, i found it quite boring. I also found the graphics a little confusing. While the string colours were showing, the colours of the fret numbers under the icons were different again which was odd.

Anyway, just my personal opinion. Maybe it's because i'm old ;)
 
#159
Picked up bandfuse and played a good bit over the weekend (both guitar and bass). I think it can be a great practice tool, especially on days when you're lacking motivation to play. I wouldn't really recommend it for beginners, because it is easy to form bad habits playing like this. From everything I've seen, Rocksmith has better "game" qualities to it, like adaptive difficulty and minigames, but I watched some videos and hated the display style. Bandfuse's scrolling tab was a lot easier for me to adapt to.

Note: playing on the PS3, no noticeable lag. Had lag at first, but used component signal for audio instead of HDMI and turned off all processing on my receiver and it went away.
 
#160
Hey everyone,

I'm the Executive Producer on BandFuse, just wanted to send a quick note to thank those of you who have picked up the game for giving it a try! The game was made by musicians for those who aspire to play bass and guitar, and we spent a LOT of time ensuring that it's approachable and provides you with the skills to play music outside of the game. We'd love more of your feedback and involvement in our community!! Please stop by the BandFuse forums ([Invalid or Expired Link Removed]), or hop on to our facebook page (https://www.facebook.com/BandFuseRockLegends) to join the discussion. Also, just wanted to let you know that we have a live twitch broadcast happening today from 3-5pm PST - and that 10 new songs are being released TODAY on Xbox Live (Playstation will follow next week).

Come join us, and tell your friends!!! BTW, BandFuse is the ONLY game on the market that teaches you tab and allows you to play 4 player... Enjoy!!

Matteo Marsala
Executive Producer
BandFuse: Rock Legends
 

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