The ones coming in October will presumably be an off the presses new production run so it will be interesting to see how they turn out.
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Rogue Viola (VB100) Bass Club
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It came today. Nice so far, but needs flats. I have D'Adario chrome SS from a Jag bass I bought a couple of years ago but they don't fit the Rogue.
Had to tweak the neck a bit, and the bridge PU is raised to its max but still is weak. So far I like it... but time will tell.
Here's a pic.
Number please!
Had to tweak the neck a bit, and the bridge PU is raised to its max but still is weak. So far I like it... but time will tell.
Here's a pic.
Mine showed up yesterday too!!
Three problems;
1. Fret buzz from position 1-5 on the A string only.
2. Hum thru amp with the middle selector switch turned to "on" regardless of status of other switches.
3. Guitar, cord and allen wrench included, but no manual or diagram.
I'll pop open the mechanism to see if an obvious ground problem exists as previously documented.
If the bridge had individual elevations, the buzzing should have been an easy fix. As it stands the action is low, so I may raise it overall to reduce the A string buzz when I put the flats on.
Other suggestions??
Three problems;
1. Fret buzz from position 1-5 on the A string only.
2. Hum thru amp with the middle selector switch turned to "on" regardless of status of other switches.
3. Guitar, cord and allen wrench included, but no manual or diagram.
I'll pop open the mechanism to see if an obvious ground problem exists as previously documented.
If the bridge had individual elevations, the buzzing should have been an easy fix. As it stands the action is low, so I may raise it overall to reduce the A string buzz when I put the flats on.
Other suggestions??
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What is the possibility that the nut slot for the A is too deep??
Is filling it slightly a better fix than raising the action??
Is filling it slightly a better fix than raising the action??
Doesn't sound the same as my problem but thanks for the pics.
I take it the blue diode is in the position after you moved it??
Just got and put on the LaBella Deep Talkin' Beatle Bass Flats. It sounds and plays very nice. My only complaint is the bridge PU's height is maxed out but is still too far from the strings. It is about half the volume of the neck PU.
It'll take some time for me to get used to the neck thickness and shape. It's more D shaped than my P bass. It's like taking a baseball bat and sawing it in half. Not bad, just an unfamiliar feel.
It'll also take a bit of time to get used to the string spacing at the bridge. I generally play finger style, but I may need to practice more with a pick on this bass.
It'll take some time for me to get used to the neck thickness and shape. It's more D shaped than my P bass. It's like taking a baseball bat and sawing it in half. Not bad, just an unfamiliar feel.
It'll also take a bit of time to get used to the string spacing at the bridge. I generally play finger style, but I may need to practice more with a pick on this bass.
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So - I bought one of these back In Feb. I was looking for a semi-hollow body bass to play with a folky group I fill in with sometimes. It sounded fine once I installed flats and did a little setup - but I don't know how anybody plays these viola basses with the terminal neck dive. My solution was to get a Neotech wireless transmitter pouch and attach it to the lower end of my strap with 8 oz of fishing sinkers in it. I thought that solution was so goofy I ended up buying a Epiphone Allen Woody - which still has some neck dive, but not near as bad. I was gonna sell the VB100, just dragging my feet. Well - I just joined a local Beatles tribute
So I am playing the VB100 again, counterweight and all. The guys love the look and sound. Epiphone is my backup.
So I am playing the VB100 again, counterweight and all. The guys love the look and sound. Epiphone is my backup.
Just an FYI; The OP hasn't been on TB for about a year and hasn't posted on this thread for about 2 years. His last post mentioned the death of his oldest daughter and that he had given up music - hopefully temporarily. I hope he is doing well. Keep a thought or prayer for him.
In the mean time, the distribution of membership numbers probably isn't happening right now unless someone else takes over maintenance of this club. Any volunteers?
In the mean time, the distribution of membership numbers probably isn't happening right now unless someone else takes over maintenance of this club. Any volunteers?
In solving my "A" string buzz problem, I de-tensioned the truss rod by a about a 1/4 turn. The buzz is gone.
The bridge is set way too high. I was able to lower it significantly after the truss adjust. Compared to a Hofner ignition, you will also notice that it's pickups are raised from the body. The elevated black plastic part is omitted from the Rogue.
Lowering the bridge did get the strings closer to the pickup. I may be able to install a type of elevating gasket to the pickups in the future, but this at least helped.
I removed the control panel and the back of it looked nothing like the preceding photos in this thread. There was another circuit board on top of the volume pots and switches. One of the diodes was laying flat against the circuit board and I raised it so that only the connections touched. There were no other obvious signs like unsoldered ground wires. The hum is much less noticeable and practically non existent when all switches are "on" or "up" and both pickups are controlled with there respective volume knobs. I prefer this setting due to the unconventional way they whole thing is designed.
I'm keeping it.
But if someone asked me if the Ignition is worth 2X as much as the Rogue, I'd say yes, it is. If I like the Rogue enough, (I also have a Fender Standard Jazz) I may trade up to the ignition, maybe the Club model.
I bought a Korean Rogue VB100 around 2000 and it had no neck dive at all. I have a fairly new Hofner Ignition violin bass and it also has no neck dive.So - I bought one of these back In Feb. I was looking for a semi-hollow body bass to play with a folky group I fill in with sometimes. It sounded fine once I installed flats and did a little setup - but I don't know how anybody plays these viola basses with the terminal neck dive. My solution was to get a Neotech wireless transmitter pouch and attach it to the lower end of my strap with 8 oz of fishing sinkers in it. I thought that solution was so goofy I ended up buying a Epiphone Allen Woody - which still has some neck dive, but not near as bad. I was gonna sell the VB100, just dragging my feet. Well - I just joined a local Beatles tribute
Does anyone know where to buy replacement PU surrounds that will allow the PUs (especially the bridge PU) to be elevated? I've seen pix of Hofners and Epiphone violin basses that show these surrounds which are taller than the cheap, flat ones that come on the Rogues. This would allow the PUs to be closer and more parallel to the strings. I checked some of the usual suspects (Allparts, Guitar Fetish, BSOL, etc. but have had no luck.
No offense - but that's impossible. The weight distribution and upper strap button position of violin basses make them very neck heavy. Now, you may be doing something to control it - you don't mind holding the neck up with your fretting hand, you have some super-grippy strap that keeps it in position, or you are wearing the bass high enough your right arm is resting on the body and keeping it in position. You can't tell me that - in lieu of what I just mentioned - if you take both your hands off of the instrument the neck doesn't dive to the floor - there's just no way. I prefer my basses to hang balanced in playing position.
Maybe we have a different definition of "neck dive"?
Is this really that much of an issue? You said above "it sounds and plays very nice". These are by definition a pretty low-fi instrument. I agree that it's not really "correct" - but does it matter?
I'm sorry to spoil your assertions with facts. But the Rogue doesn't have neck dive. My 1964 Gibson EB-O also doesn't have neck dive. I've had both basses for years. I'm not doing anything to try to control anything. There is no neck dive. Yet I consistently see people coming on here especially claiming that all Gibsons have neck dive, etc. In your case, you're saying my Rogue has it when it doesn't. You can continue to believe that it does, but that isn't going to change reality. I have a Hofner Shorty that does have neck dive. I tried out an Epiphone EB-O once that had neck dive. I suppose through the years I've played a few basses that have neck dive that I can't remember now. But I do know what neck dive is and contrary to what you're trying to tell me, the Rogue does not have it. I suppose the next thing you're going to try to tell me is that my Hofner Ignition violin bass has neck dive. I don't mean to be argumentative, either. But I think the reason this is such an issue for me is that I've had that Gibson EB-O since I was a teenager and I wouldn't be able to count the number of times I've seen people claim those basses have neck dive when they don't. Maybe certain models do, but the one I have doesn't. The same can be said for the Rogue. For the most part, I can't stand to even play basses that have neck dive. I tolerate the Hofner Shorty, but that's just a travel bass and I barely use it anyway.
Well - you are assuming mine doesn't have it - it most certainly does. If I let go of it without my 8oz counterweight the neck dives to the floor. It's unplayable for me without doing something about it. Glad your basses work for you.
Reread your own post - seems like a lot of other people have different experience than you with neck dive.
Reread your own post - seems like a lot of other people have different experience than you with neck dive.
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