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Roscoe players - what rig do you use?

#21
Im selling my mesa 400 and ampeg 4x10hlf for a yorkville 800 and an eden 4x10xlt.

Im selling the mesa for change, and I dont like how it sounds with my roscoe to be quite honest. I played a yorkville 400 yesterday and today and it blew me away. It made my roscoe sound incredible. Off goes the 400, just need to find a buyer :P
 
#24
I'm currently playing my LG-3000 through:

Read Purity preamp
Crown Microtech 1200
Bergantino NV425

The preamp is actually a little too revealing for my taste, at least through this cab, which seems to emphasize string noise (I prefer "zingy" stainless strings on my Roscoe). This seems puzzling, given the absence of a horn/tweeter, but I can't seem to dial it out with the preamp's EQ options. OTOH, the cab delivers the Roscoe's formidable low end with righteous authority, so I'm exploring other preamp options.
 
#26
A bit hard to see, but my LG-3005 thru my ThunderFunk 550-B and a pair of EA NL-210's. First gig with the new band, local benefit show last night. The LG was barkin' and growlin' all night. :)

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#28
Basso Gruvitas said:
Very cool pic Vic!;) Looks like you're workin' hard there!
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Thanks! There are better shots, but none that really show the rig, so I was trying to stay on topic. :)

Today UPS is pulling up with a GK 1001RB II, so we'll see how that changes my tone. It might mean (I'm thinking) that I will retire my SWR SM-500.

I'll let you know........:bassist:
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IMHO, the current GK stuff blows SWR away in tone. I'm betting you're going to be VERY happy.
 
#32
poptart said:
None - just straight in to the PA for pure Roscoe joy:)
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Sorry dude, but I don't want that much bass coming thru the vocal monitors, and I have to have a stage monitor. Direct to PA only would NEVER work for me... unless we were using something like those new Bose systems where pretty much both the band and the audience listened to the mains, but that's only for smaller venues, IMHO.
 
#33
Vic said:
Sorry dude, but I don't want that much bass coming thru the vocal monitors, and I have to have a stage monitor. Direct to PA only would NEVER work for me... unless we were using something like those new Bose systems where pretty much both the band and the audience listened to the mains, but that's only for smaller venues, IMHO.
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Cool - we have a four way monitor mix (1kw) on stage and so have all instruments and vocals through the monitors, so its almost a FOH sound, great balance whereever you are on stage, and not too loud either.;)
 
#34
poptart said:
Cool - we have a four way monitor mix (1kw) on stage and so have all instruments and vocals through the monitors, so its almost a FOH sound, great balance whereever you are on stage, and not too loud either.;)
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Yeah, I hear what you're saying, I typically work with at least 4x mon mix rigs as well, but I don't sing any lead, so I tend to move around a lot, so that doesn't really work for me 'cause it's way too directional/local to one spot for my "focal mix".

Now, if all I ever wanted to hear was a "general" mix, that'd probably still be ok, 'cause you're always close to someone's monitor. However, I find when folks have their own mixes, their part and/or instrument is REALLY prominient and the rest is mixed back quite a bit. That doesn't really help me monitor me much at all. While that's not a necessity, it's definitely my preference, as I like to be able to focus more specifically on my contribution sometimes as well. I find firing my bass cross stage works best. I don't bother the singers much, and the guitar(s) and drummer seem to be able to lock in with me a bit better for having more of a stage "presence" vs what's mixed in with their monitor.

Plus, I like the ability to adjust my tone on stage... understood, it has no bearing on what the audience hears, but if I'm happier with what I hear, I play better. Maybe that's just me, tho.

I find it works best for m

You're right tho, it can work, it's just not the way I like it.
 
#35
Vic said:
Yeah, I hear what you're saying, I typically work with at least 4x mon mix rigs as well, but I don't sing any lead, so I tend to move around a lot, so that doesn't really work for me 'cause it's way too directional/local to one spot for my "focal mix".

Now, if all I ever wanted to hear was a "general" mix, that'd probably still be ok, 'cause you're always close to someone's monitor. However, I find when folks have their own mixes, their part and/or instrument is REALLY prominient and the rest is mixed back quite a bit. That doesn't really help me monitor me much at all. While that's not a necessity, it's definitely my preference, as I like to be able to focus more specifically on my contribution sometimes as well. I find firing my bass cross stage works best. I don't bother the singers much, and the guitar(s) and drummer seem to be able to lock in with me a bit better for having more of a stage "presence" vs what's mixed in with their monitor.

Plus, I like the ability to adjust my tone on stage... understood, it has no bearing on what the audience hears, but if I'm happier with what I hear, I play better. Maybe that's just me, tho.

I find it works best for m

You're right tho, it can work, it's just not the way I like it.
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Again - I am cool with that, as yopu say it is totally personal and sometimes at a gig I am not getting the best sound from my bass. Alot of it is about the amount of gear to be set up and on the stage area, as we do alot of private event where space is limited and set up times are short. I am experimenting with some in ears which could be interesting.

Our monitors are chucking out over 1kw and most of the time that is enough for all (5) of us to get a great on stage mix, it is what you get used to I guess.;)
 
#36
poptart said:
I am experimenting with some in ears which could be interesting.
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I've never personally used them, but know MANY people (albeit mostly lead and primary backup singers) who absolutely swear by them. The "word" is, they definitely take some getting used to, but are incredible once you do.

The main problem they have with them, is if you end up at a gig where there aren't enough mon mixes to support them, and you have to "go back"... I hear that's a VERY tough (re)adjusment.

Our monitors are chucking out over 1kw
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Well, it was never a matter of horsepower... more a matter of "zones" for me.

...it is what you get used to I guess.;)
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as always. :)
 
#39
CLJMB said:
Halftooth - I also am playing a Roscoe (among other basses) through a Schroeder 1210R, but I find it a lttle too middy for me. Is there much difference in the sound of the 1212R versus the 1210R?
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Yes, there is a difference in the tone between the 1210 and the 1212. I'd say that the 1212 favors the lowend a bit more and it doesn't have as present a midrange voice that the 1210 has. I prefer the 1210 as a stand-alone cab, but I think the best combo is the 1210 with the 1212 personally.

One factor with Roscoe and Schroeder 1210's is that since both cabs have a strong midrange prescence, your amp setting should refelect the appropriate adjustments. My Eden's have the scooped mid inherently, so they seem to really match well with both Roscoe and Schroeder.
 

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