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RUSH Clockwork Angels

AFTK + VT = very good description of the bass sound (plus an extra helping of SansAmp evil). I sure wouldn't have come up with that. All I could think of was that Ed Friedland's hilarious deadpan "That's pretty gnarly." (from his Fender Jazz + Trace stack review) would apply to Geddy's tone. I do like it. I'll just never forget the first time I heard Rush (Power Windows), and the bass kicked in on The Big Money. That was it. That... tone. I was playing bass, come hell or (haha) high water. That's probably why I like the Wal Era sound.

It was Macallan Cask Strength for me.

EDIT: Sorry, no clue about tabs. What, you can't just play along? :D
 
For me, it most audibly resembles Vapor Trails with A Farewell To Kings bass tone thrown in. Dare I say it, this may be my favorite studio bass tone of Geddy's (putting on my hardhat now in anticipation of the onslaught of opposing opinions.) His tone actually has an angriness to it that I absolutely love. I can't wait to see them perform these songs live.

On a side note, I too was enjoying a scotch (Oban 14) last night while listening to the new album. I also heear that Neil is a Macallan 12 fan.

Ged's back to using an actual valve amp in the studio, as well as live. Orange 200. Monstrous tone and some lovely 'real world' grit!!!
 
I have tickets to the show here in Minneapolis in I believe September. I got the album yesterday and listened to it through once. Then I just let iTunes play Power Windows, Grace Under Pressure, Test for Echo, and Counterparts. :)

Not sure I like the new one yet. I've had a harder time getting into their newer stuff. As a gamer also, I do like the fact that they chose a steampunk setting for their story.
 
Not sure I like the new one yet. I've had a harder time getting into their newer stuff. A

I am the same way regarding their new stuff and I am ultra critical, but this album is pretty good or should I say has some pretty good songs on it. I will say "The Garden" deserves all the hype its getting. I would rank it up there with 'Second Nature", Available Light" "Bravado", "The Pass" and maybe "Ghost of a Chance/Speed of Love" as most emotional Rush songs. It might top them all and that is saying a lot.
 
AFTK + VT = very good description of the bass sound (plus an extra helping of SansAmp evil). I sure wouldn't have come up with that. All I could think of was that Ed Friedland's hilarious deadpan "That's pretty gnarly." (from his Fender Jazz + Trace stack review) would apply to Geddy's tone. I do like it. I'll just never forget the first time I heard Rush (Power Windows), and the bass kicked in on The Big Money. That was it. That... tone. I was playing bass, come hell or (haha) high water. That's probably why I like the Wal Era sound.

It was Macallan Cask Strength for me.

EDIT: Sorry, no clue about tabs. What, you can't just play along? :D

So far, I've been able to learn the opening riff to "Headlong Flight" and "Clockwork Angels", but that's it. (Yeah, there's Caravan and BU2B, but I want to learn the new material on the album first!). :D
 
Note to self... I think The Wreckers is killer. It reminded me of a lot of Counterparts' stuff.

It didn't evoke much feeling outside of The Garden for me. But, what it did do was leave a heavy weight in my mind. It was polarizing, but in a very transparent way. It felt very condensed and very much like a puzzle lyrically. It was too poetic to make much sense, and it seemed to cross over into the whole human rights thing to make sense as a concept album.


But overall, killer job by Rush. They killed it again.
 
REGARDING LOUDNESS WARS and HEAVY BASS:

I've had this idea for a while. Aren't most modern recordings fitted with some sort of "id tag" or whatever embedded in the recording? If so, a new stereo system needs to be developed that would allow the user to attach personal EQ settings, and volume settings to each ID#. Have it save-to-memory in the playback system. So when the player identifies the song in the CD drive it would automatically apply whatever EQ/Volume you have set up when you adjusted your stereo for that song. You could just do it on the fly as you listen to an album and hit a single button to write the EQ settings PER SONG into the stereo system. So even if you change the settings, if you hit the button again it will overwrite whatever you had saved-to-memory before. Another button would "bypass" your personal settings and resort to whatever the stereo's EQ controls are presently set at. Call this system "Auto-Q". That way, once you've tweaked your album you'd have ultimate listening satisfaction on every single song as you take that road trip or sit and read while you listen to your music.

I'd pay a little extra for a stereo system that had that feature.

:)

OR --- there could even be a rewritable part on the CD itself that could be used to record that type of info into the CD itself. It could have a "default setting" that would allow you to select whatever EQ settings it was recorded with from the factory, or it could use whatever personal EQ and volume settings you've written to disk.

Either way would work. The technology for such things easily exists today.

Back to whatever was being discussed .. it was just an idea that the comments about this album sparked.
 
Cool idea. Isn't tangible media on its way out though? I know there's been a new surge of vinyl users (I contemplated getting CA on vinyl and dusting off the trusty Technics 1200), but I think in a few years DVD, Bluray and CDs will be few and far between, especially these days with high speed Internet. I'm not saying I agree with it, but think that's the way we're headed. Cheaper for companies too. Nowadays I think you can attach EQ settings to tracks in media player software.

Back to the album. I just can't get enough. I heard an MP3 version of it, and also heard a FLAC version and was blown out of the water at how good that sounded. I may sound like a broken record, I apologize, but the Taurus Pedals are filling-looseners on this recording! And lots of 'em! I think I may take the plunge and buy the 96/24 version tonight I mentioned in my last post. We have a 12 hour drive tomorrow so I'm gearing up!


REGARDING LOUDNESS WARS and HEAVY BASS:

I've had this idea for a while. Aren't most modern recordings fitted with some sort of "id tag" or whatever embedded in the recording? If so, a new stereo system needs to be developed that would allow the user to attach personal EQ settings, and volume settings to each ID#. Have it save-to-memory in the playback system. So when the player identifies the song in the CD drive it would automatically apply whatever EQ/Volume you have set up when you adjusted your stereo for that song. You could just do it on the fly as you listen to an album and hit a single button to write the EQ settings PER SONG into the stereo system. So even if you change the settings, if you hit the button again it will overwrite whatever you had saved-to-memory before. Another button would "bypass" your personal settings and resort to whatever the stereo's EQ controls are presently set at. Call this system "Auto-Q". That way, once you've tweaked your album you'd have ultimate listening satisfaction on every single song as you take that road trip or sit and read while you listen to your music.

I'd pay a little extra for a stereo system that had that feature.

:)

OR --- there could even be a rewritable part on the CD itself that could be used to record that type of info into the CD itself. It could have a "default setting" that would allow you to select whatever EQ settings it was recorded with from the factory, or it could use whatever personal EQ and volume settings you've written to disk.

Either way would work. The technology for such things easily exists today.

Back to whatever was being discussed .. it was just an idea that the comments about this album sparked.
 
First off, I love the album. The Garden is one of the best songs ever written, it is absolutely beautiful. But did anyone notice the time on the album cover? It is at 9:12, since I am an RN, we use 24 hour time in documentation, anyway, the 24 hour time on the album is 2112 :)
 
First off, I love the album. The Garden is one of the best songs ever written, it is absolutely beautiful. But did anyone notice the time on the album cover? It is at 9:12, since I am an RN, we use 24 hour time in documentation, anyway, the 24 hour time on the album is 2112 :)



I never would have caught that, but in an interview somewhere, Neil was talking about how awesome Hugh Syme was as a graphic designer/artist; his attention to detail, and mentioned that.
 
First off, I love the album. The Garden is one of the best songs ever written, it is absolutely beautiful. But did anyone notice the time on the album cover? It is at 9:12, since I am an RN, we use 24 hour time in documentation, anyway, the 24 hour time on the album is 2112 :)
One more reason to love these three humans and what they do for us. This is just too cool.
 
....Cool idea. Isn't tangible media on its way out though? I know there's been a new surge of vinyl users (I contemplated getting CA on vinyl and dusting off the trusty Technics 1200), but I think in a few years DVD, Bluray and CDs will be few and far between, especially these days with high speed Internet. I'm not saying I agree with it, but think that's the way we're headed. Cheaper for companies too. Nowadays I think you can attach EQ settings to tracks in media player software.....
You can? I wasn't aware of that. I may have to come to the party and update myself on the use of digital media more. I mean, I have a basic MP3 player, and of course I use my seven computers :eyebrow: to listen to many forms of music, but I'm not really like "iPod savy" or whatever. I've been perfectly content to use Media Player to listen to my CDs or even just my 25 year old modular stereo and old-school 3-way tower speakers to listen. But if I can assign EQ and volumes to digital tracks ... I'm in!

So does that take certain hardware? Certain media types? Can I do it with Rush's CA somehow? (trying a lame attempt to keep this on-topic ... heheh).

Can't wait 'til it hits Wal Mart. :hyper: