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Russian bass strings. Any experience to share?

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guys, nor Elbrus, nor Baikal ever was made in Russia despite the marketing. they were always made by TSMC as Russia doesn't have a single factory to produce something that modern.

now with the sanctions Russia cannot even order them anymore.
Okay you win...so what? We're supposed to be talking about bass strings, right?
 
guys, nor Elbrus, nor Baikal ever was made in Russia despite the marketing. they were always made by TSMC as Russia doesn't have a single factory to produce something that modern.

now with the sanctions Russia cannot even order them anymore.
There are Chinese fabs to serve their niche. Keep in mind that Elbrus and Baikal do not exist to serve the civilian market, but are mostly there to serve the military. The military (and aerospace too, for that matter) does not necessarily need processing power or sheer efficiency, they have other criteria. Therefore, they may well be produced on node sizes much greater than the ~10nm that are commonplace these days, even an order of magnitude greater.
 
yeah, and I said it on the first page that I played some Emuzins back in the day and they were trash.

did you?
No I haven't but I like to see people experimenting. Also since strings are such a personal thing, it's very common for different people to have different opinions about the same strings. "One man gathers what another man spills" and all that.

At no point in this thread have I opined about the quality (or lack thereof) of Russian bass strings. I'm curious to read informed opinions about them.
 
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Getting back on topic, Russia historically didn't have a real civilian industry (which is one of the reasons the USSR failed). String quality, especially for electric instruments, was nowhere near the top of their concerns. Anecdotally, strings in the Eastern Bloc were dire, but I am wary of any info on the matter because there is and was a certain interest in making the Communists (and then, the Russians) look bad, and the people themselves will have likely exaggerated their complaints since, well, unhappy people tend to be critical just because. (Maybe the strings were bad but not *that* bad). When the USSR fell, they had both access to better products and they were in a very bad place, and when they sort of started getting their poopie together in some way, China was leaps ahead of Russia as a manufacturer, and it made (and still makes) very little sense for Russians to invest in large-scale manufacturing of niche products. I suppose their string manufacturers' only reason to be, up to the present day, is to make specialty strings for specialty Russian instruments that are not so commonly found elsewhere.
 
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There are Chinese fabs to serve their niche.

you would be surprised, but the 'Chinese CPUs' are also made in Taiwan, just on the same factory as Baikals or Elbruses.

Keep in mind that Elbrus and Baikal do not exist to serve the civilian market, but are mostly there to serve the military.

not true as well, frankly. and it was already noted in this thread.
AFAIR, nor Elbrus or Baikal were certified for military at all, they had MCST (also made by Taiwan) for that.
 
But still, to say that Russian quality must be low is sort of a misconception. I have a Lada Niva, which is still made to this day with just a few differences from their '70s model, and yeah, quality is not so good but not because they can't make any better, it's because the product was designed to be cheap, to be serviced easily by the users themselves, and in fact spare parts are simple and extremely cheap (for even Chinese cars, for instance). And why is it still made? Because it's a no-nonsense off-road car that is a true 4x4 and is maybe the only car still made (the other one is the Suzuki Jimny that costs twice as much) that makes any sense as an off-road vehicle for people not going to the golf course.
 
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