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Sade's Paradise - stamina required?

Jerry Catanescu

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Am I the only one who struggles to play Sade's Paradise all the way through without screwing up at least once? It's just one bass lick relentlessly repeated throughout the song, with no variations. I find it harder than it seems to stay focused and not eff it up at some point.
 
Am I the only one who struggles to play Sade's Paradise all the way through without screwing up at least once? It's just one bass lick relentlessly repeated throughout the song, with no variations. I find it harder than it seems to stay focused and not eff it up at some point.

Your question is very song-specific, which is fine. But do you find sticking to a firm ostinato, or sample bass line, to be difficult in general? If so, I think you just need to work on it some more, if that's what you want to be able to do. Play along to tunes that consist mainly of long stretches of a groove that doesn't change significantly. Like "The Ghetto" (Donny Hathaway), the first part of "Chameleon", etc.
 
Am I the only one who struggles to play Sade's Paradise all the way through without screwing up at least once? It's just one bass lick relentlessly repeated throughout the song, with no variations. I find it harder than it seems to stay focused and not eff it up at some point.
Is your problem muscle exhaustion or loss of mental focus? Maybe a bit of both.

For the first:
This line is at the first fret so it’s a bigger stretch - make sure your playing posture is good for both hands. Get your bass set up properly so the action is reasonably low. Focus on relaxing both hands and using as little force as possible, while still getting a nice full sound without buzzing or clicking. Play the line with 1st and 4th fingers, on fingertips. Make sure your fingers stop the string right behind the fret. Don’t pluck too hard.

For the second:
This one we all have to work on, I think.
You need to remain present in the moment. Losing focus is easy with a simple line. Moving your body with the music can help keep you in the moment. Sing the line with your playing (out loud or in your head). Really enjoy the feeling of locking into the groove. Notice the tiny timing and dynamic inaccuracies you make, without criticizing or judging yourself.

For both, devote time in your practice to playing ostinato patterns for long periods, staying as solid as you can.
 
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But do you find sticking to a firm ostinato, or sample bass line, to be difficult in general? If so, I think you just need to work on it some more, if that's what you want to be able to do.
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Whilst I would agree with this (and maybe there is a technique issue to resolve beyond general hand condition), there might also be some mileage to be had from reviewing the setup of the bass. With the right technique it should be easy to play such parts continuously without having to train like an elite athlete, but a bass that fights back will eventually wear you down.

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I find it harder than it seems to stay focused
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On the other hand it sounds like a question of maintaining mental focus rather than any physical limitation. Whilst I like to play exciting and interesting bass parts it is not always possible. From a pure playing perspective, some of the greatest songs I have played have some of the simplest bass parts that on the face of it (or in isolation) don't really seem to do much or go anywhere. But from a higher musical/composition level they are perfect. For me the trick to staying focussed was getting 'inside' the song to gain a deeper understanding of the overall composition and the bass' contribution to it. Then, when it comes to playtime, the line takes on more gravitas which eases the burden on staying focussed, however 'simple' the isolated part.
 
Thank you all for the great replies. Very enlightening. I do think that the main problem is keeping focus. It's kind of like repeating a word over and over until it loses all meaning, and then it becomes easy to mess it up without noticing. I seem to remember a story about James Brown, I think. To audition for his band, you had to play the same funk lick over and over for minutes and minutes without screwing it up.
 
Try to think less and listen (and feel) more. As long as you’re focused on the music, particularly the groove and the role you play in it, your muscle memory will find the right notes in a simple pattern like this.

First of all, try to experience the music from the perspective of a dancer, rather than that of an active listener. Repetitive music can be boring to listening to, but can be great for dancing to. So repetitive parts will make much more sense if you can imagine yourself dancing to them. Moving your body to music while playing may help here (I find that moving my neck to the beat really helps when I want to lock into a groove).

Also, attention can be trained. There are mindfulness and meditation exercises that are meant to help you gain control over your attention. You can apply these here too: try to actively notice when your mind is wandering off, and each time it does, consciously direct your attention back to the music (not to what your fingers are doing - your muscle memory will take care of that - but to the sound the band as whole is producing). Don’t judge yourself when you note that your mind has wandered off, that’s perfectly normal, and it will keep happening. But if you learn to notice in time when your mind is wandering off, you may be able to direct it back before you screw up. That’s the goal here.

Try to think of a song like this not as boring, but as a chance to really focus on the groove, since you don’t have to think about the notes. I actually like to play repetitive songs for this reason, but it does depend on the song, and especially on how good the rest of the band is. Note how each time you play the pattern, it’s slightly different, because it’s impossible to play it exactly the same twice, but also because the context changes. This will help in keeping you focused on the music.