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Sadowsky
- Thread starter LadyLoveStingRay5
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I agree - I need my neck pickup to be further from the bridge - no point in having a bass that lacks....bass.
As for the review itself, Steve Bailey did a great job of demoing the actual sound quality of the bass across strings and different registers. I was impressed alough a five string Modern would be much more of a fit for me.
It was a great demo. I don't play sixers, but hey, if Steve's happy, I'm happy.
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Hey, whatever works for you…I dig the modern pickup arrangement.
I have a Stingray Special 4H and it certainly doesn't lack Bass nor have I heard a Sadowsky Modern that seems to lack Bass plus both have Bass knob shelved at 40hz
Saying that we may differ in what's enough Bass
My Peavey has pickups in the Modern position and it is not lacking in bottom. Neither did the Peavey Cirrus basses and Ken Smith I owned lack bottom end. That position offers clarity and definition.I have a Stingray Special 4H and it certainly doesn't lack Bass nor have I heard a Sadowsky Modern that seems to lack Bass plus both have Bass knob shelved at 40hz
Saying that we may differ in what's enough Bass
Those are active basses that have bass boost on tap - both of those, if you set the knobs at half rotation, you have a substantial amount of bass boost. Electronic eq doesn't really compensate perfectly for having the pickup a bit further out; the eq necessary to compensate perfectly is different on each string. The reason that 'Rays are considered weak on the G string is because of this "not quite right" compensation.I have a Stingray Special 4H and it certainly doesn't lack Bass nor have I heard a Sadowsky Modern that seems to lack Bass plus both have Bass knob shelved at 40hz
Saying that we may differ in what's enough Bass
I have 5 StingRay Specials and have owned 2 others. A weak G string has never been my experience.
I learned this the hard way. Years ago I bought a gorgeous Masterbuiltd Sadowsky 24 fret but it was modern pickup configuration. It sounded exactly like a Ken Smith. Some would love that. I can’t stand that burpy bass tone. Thankfully the guy from Fret Nation worked well with me on the return. It’s a shame, because it felt great.
I call this "50's spacing" - the pickups are moved 15% further out than 60's spacing (there's a logical reason for that number), with the neck pickup a bit further out than a 51P. It's a deeper, throatier sound - it has a unique voice, and I like it.
Funny, I don't think that my Satin Deluxe Modern is quite burpy enough, though it has an absolutely monstrous low end.
What a great demo! Steve’s a real bass player - no slapping, no popping, not trying to play 10 notes a second! Solid fundamentals and pure tones
I had two pre-Specials with weak Gs. I had to do some acrobatics with the pickup height to make them even reasonably audible and even. As with several other issues, Ernie Ball seems to have corrected that problem with the StingRay Special. Like you, I've never had a weak G with a Special.
Here is what Big Poppa [Sterling Ball] had to say about weak G back in 2005; to bad last post wasn't heeded
Links are direct to Sterlings post NOT what is in description not sure why but need to click link
forums.ernieball.com
forums.ernieball.com
forums.ernieball.com
Links are direct to Sterlings post NOT what is in description not sure why but need to click link
Weak G-string output
Hey, everyone. My stock stingray 4 p/u has weak output on the G and to a lesser extent the D. I have played with eq and pickup height, as well as setup, but to no avail. I have been playing bass for 17 years, and have owned and played many basses. This is by far my favorite, and will never...
forums.ernieball.com
Weak G-string output
Anyway, I still firmly hold my opinion on the subject :) Which is good to know. I mean why shouldnt you know more than the guy that runs the EBMM show. :rolleyes:
forums.ernieball.com
Weak G-string output
Hmm... man this thread has got me worried now. I have a 1990 SR4 which has problems with a weak G. It also has a couple of dead spots (6th to 8th fret). Actually it gets progressively weaker as you go from the 1st fret to the 7th. Posted a thread about it here...
forums.ernieball.com
Sorry if I'm misreading this, but Sterling's reaction seems to be, "Yeah, I know lots of players don't like this aspect of my product, but tough luck. Just get used to it." Seems kind of uncharacteristic of him.Here is what Big Poppa [Sterling Ball] had to say about weak G back in 2005; to bad last post wasn't heeded
Links are direct to Sterlings post NOT what is in description not sure why but need to click link
Weak G-string output
Hey, everyone. My stock stingray 4 p/u has weak output on the G and to a lesser extent the D. I have played with eq and pickup height, as well as setup, but to no avail. I have been playing bass for 17 years, and have owned and played many basses. This is by far my favorite, and will never...
Weak G-string output
Anyway, I still firmly hold my opinion on the subject :) Which is good to know. I mean why shouldnt you know more than the guy that runs the EBMM show. :rolleyes:
Weak G-string output
Hmm... man this thread has got me worried now. I have a 1990 SR4 which has problems with a weak G. It also has a couple of dead spots (6th to 8th fret). Actually it gets progressively weaker as you go from the 1st fret to the 7th. Posted a thread about it here...
Sort of
To me he is saying G is not weak but thinner and part of Sound that makes the Stingray from the beginning with Leo's design and many liked which got Stingray going and yes you either like it or not as with most things; lots of players don't like Jazz, Precisions, Gibsons, Ric's Etc.; So What
The majority of Stingray players don't hear weak G but Stingray tone and are very content
IME whether in the Wild, on Recordings, Video's most players have no problem with 'G' being weak or buried in mix and it's snappy[thinish] sound is heard clearly [as somewhat with 'D'] and Sounds like a Stingray
Sterling and his company have made first rate, well built and excellent sounding basses for what 4 decades with good success and the Special is doing Great
Back to Sadowsky ; Here is a decent comparison [with some flaws IE; Plucking position] of different pickup positions
; Here is a decent comparison [with some flaws IE; Plucking position] of different pickup positions
