Salvage Rumble 200 combo with a dead power amp

[agedhorse]

They can still order parts, doesn't matter if it's in warranty or not. The authorized shop just orders the parts by FMIC part number.

 

[Old Garage-Bander]

I see good condition Rumble 115 V3 combos going for between $350 and $400 with the occasional oddball selling cheaper. Spending $250 -$275 to repair it is pretty much a no-brainer provided it's fixed correctly with factory parts and not counterfeit parts.



I'm not sure this is correct. At one time there were 2 different drivers, both Eminence DG but different part numbers. The combo driver was a lower powered version with a smaller motor and either a 1.5 or 2" voice coil, whereas the extension cabinet used a larger motor and a 2.5" voice coil.

This MAY have changed since my involvement with Fender, but I doubt it.

OK. I was going from multiple sources (I can't recall who right now) that said the two used the same driver.
Maybe it was just rumblings over in the Rumble club?
If I can cite a reliable source again, I'll revisit. Otherwise, I'm good to go with your info.
Besides, I like the idea of a better driver in the 115 cab.

 

[Old Garage-Bander]

one if he sell it at a guitar center they will only give him a $150.00..
look on reverb.. and how many are there.. and see how long they been setting there.. look at the lowest price... now to get it sold you'd have to under cut that price by $30.00.. then give a portion to reverb.. now if he puts it one facebook market place.. he's going to get the looky loos who will try to talk him down.. and waste his time in person..

now for the tech.. anyone who is licensed by fender.. automatically will make more money.. unless the warranty covers the parts and labor.. it stands to reason.. it may not be worth repairing due to cost.

Simple as that..

If it's busted they won't give him squat.

Two weeks ago, I would have bought his dead amp/good speaker R200 combo.

I have it on good authority that the sell to GC rate is up to at least $205.00 depending on condition of course. And GC is selling them for twice-ish that amount.

What's the new price on one these days? Around $575.00?

 

[G-Dog]

OK. I was going from multiple sources (I can't recall who right now) that said the two used the same driver.
Maybe it was just rumblings over in the Rumble club? ... ... ...

Eight years ago it was reported, from an unnamed Fender inside source, that the Rumble 200 combo and the 115 cab shared the same driver. And just how the lower power application and smaller cab volume of the 200 combo justified that manufacturing decision was simply waved off. I'm sure that report has been repeated many times over the years. ​

... ... ... What's the new price on one these days? Around $575.00?

That's right, Bandy. The Rumble 200 combo is usually priced new at $580, though there there are some holiday discounts going around lately. Right now a 10% discount to $520 is the best I've seen, though some other Rumble models have seen closer to 50% discounts!
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[agedhorse]

Take those reports with a grain of salt, though possible.

Early on in the development, they were different drivers. I might have been there (in a kinda-sorta involuntary way). I am very familiar with the driver in the 115 extension cabinet.

 

[Old Garage-Bander]

Eight years ago it was reported, from an unnamed Fender inside source, that the Rumble 200 combo and the 115 cab shared the same driver. And just how the lower power application and smaller cab volume of the 200 combo justified that manufacturing decision was simply waved off. I'm sure that report has been repeated many times over the years. ​

That's right, Bandy. The Rumble 200 combo is usually priced new at $580, though there there are some holiday discounts going around lately. Right now a 10% discount to $520 is the best I've seen, though some other Rumble models have seen closer to 50% discounts!
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I do recall that post by @Linnin. Since it was second hand info and no source cited, I'll stick with where we are at currently. In grain of salt land.

 

[G-Dog]

Take those reports with a grain of salt, though possible.

Early on in the development, they were different drivers. I might have been there (in a kinda-sorta involuntary way). I am very familiar with the driver in the 115 extension cabinet.

Is it possible, in your experience, that it's cheaper for Eminence to make the same driver for both the combo and the cab than to make two different drivers? I can't think of any other reason for such a 100% "giveaway" of capacity in the combo.
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[agedhorse]

Is it possible, in your experience, that it's cheaper for Eminence to make the same driver for both the combo and the cab than to make two different drivers? I can't think of any other reason for such a 100% "giveaway" of capacity in the combo.
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Yes, at the volumes being produced.

Part of the reasons for a lower powered driver is less weight, slightly higher sensitivity and lower cost.

For low volume production, there's not much difference in cost overall, but Eminence DG specializes in higher volume OEM products only.

 

[mrperkolator]

Take those reports with a grain of salt, though possible.

Early on in the development, they were different drivers. I might have been there (in a kinda-sorta involuntary way). I am very familiar with the driver in the 115 extension cabinet.

How's the performance on the Fender 115 cab? It's price makes me think "too good to be true." I could almost buy 2 for the price of other 15s. At least in late 2022 money.

 

[agedhorse]

For it's intended market, it's a tough cabinet to beat.