This is an awsome thread...congrads...dont worry about the behringer being plastic. I have had mine since they first came out and its beat to hell. I have dropped it off my amp top many times at gigs and even shorted out the AC adapter by using the wrong polarity adapter and it still works. I just hard wired and a nine volt adapter into mine...still works great...hell i might get another as a back-up..what $30.00 for such a great pedal.
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Sansamp BDDI vs Behringer BDI21 BLIND TEST!!!!
- Thread starter Micolao
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I've had both and definitely prefer the BDI21. There's one for $16 locally that I'm thinking of scooping up & rehousing it although it's relatively sturdy as-is..
Way cool thread.
For round 1 I preferred the Sans Amp. I think that flat the SA has more snarl than the BDI.
For round 2 I preferred the BDI. Seemed to have a more crisp sound and a nice snarl. The SA was not as brilliand sort of like an undersampled mp3 with a hint of midrange harshness.
For round 3, I preferred the BDI. More definition. Tighter lows. More defined highes. The SA was harsh. Unusable IMO.
Makes me wonder if I am falling for the smiley face in a solo setting... Anyone compare these two guys in a band context?
I have been debating about getting a SA. I feel bad putting money into the hands of a company taking jobs out of the US while copying inovation with nearly zero contribution of their own. But the sound to dollar value makes me scratch the head.
Dave
For round 1 I preferred the Sans Amp. I think that flat the SA has more snarl than the BDI.
For round 2 I preferred the BDI. Seemed to have a more crisp sound and a nice snarl. The SA was not as brilliand sort of like an undersampled mp3 with a hint of midrange harshness.
For round 3, I preferred the BDI. More definition. Tighter lows. More defined highes. The SA was harsh. Unusable IMO.
Makes me wonder if I am falling for the smiley face in a solo setting... Anyone compare these two guys in a band context?
I have been debating about getting a SA. I feel bad putting money into the hands of a company taking jobs out of the US while copying inovation with nearly zero contribution of their own. But the sound to dollar value makes me scratch the head.
Dave
Perhaps I'm deaf, but I doubt that anyone could tell the difference when the band is playing...
I believe I hear more midrange on the SA stuff which may make it sound uglier soloed but it may cut better.
Has anyone tryed GDI21 with bass? Can you get OK results, with no drive, CLN mode; you know - a bass setup on GDI21?
Thanx!
Thanx!
I think I preferred the Behringer on the first two clips, and both about the same on the overdriven clip. Not that the clips in round 3 sounded the same, they were different, I just didn't prefer one over the other.
Someone mentioned the output volume of the two being different... that the Sansamp has a good deal more volume than the Berry. How much of a difference is it? And what about the noise level on these two pedals... is one quieter than the other as far as hum goes?
Someone mentioned the output volume of the two being different... that the Sansamp has a good deal more volume than the Berry. How much of a difference is it? And what about the noise level on these two pedals... is one quieter than the other as far as hum goes?
So I haven't really listened to any demos of the Behringer BDI pedal yet, but I've heard it's very comparable to the Sansamp so I don't think I'm even going to try to guess which one is which, although I will put which sounds I prefer for each round.
1st round goes to: Sample 1
2nd round goes to: Sample 2
3rd round goes to : Sample 2
If the answers to this post have already been posted, I purposefully haven't looked at them either, so I did this completely blind.
1st round goes to: Sample 1
2nd round goes to: Sample 2
3rd round goes to : Sample 2
If the answers to this post have already been posted, I purposefully haven't looked at them either, so I did this completely blind.
Considering this is a 6 year old thread its safe to say the results are in there somewhere... ;-)
Crazy old thread, I found it in Google just now, so it's funny that someone just posted to it. I had the answers to this right, and it's because I can easily identify the exact aspect of the SA tone that is driving me crazy. That plastic like sound on the back end of notes, sort of like when you hit the open end of a big pvc pipe.
I've been looking for a tiny bit of drive but scared to but my SA on my pedalboard because I sometimes find myself standing in a mix of beer and vomit on stage. Getting this Behringer unit tomorrow.
I've been looking for a tiny bit of drive but scared to but my SA on my pedalboard because I sometimes find myself standing in a mix of beer and vomit on stage. Getting this Behringer unit tomorrow.
I used a Behringer with my GK1001RB. At church I use a programmable Sansamp into a GK combo with the same settings...no distortion. They work the same for my purposes. I gave a Behringer to a bass player/soundman friend in Nashville. They use it at their church interchangeably with a Sansamp BDDI and no bass player that comes through the church, or soundman cares which is which.
I've had mine since they came out, and throw it in the cord suitcase when I'm done and it has narry a scratch on it, despite years of use and some normal abuse.
I've had mine since they came out, and throw it in the cord suitcase when I'm done and it has narry a scratch on it, despite years of use and some normal abuse.
Breathing life into an old thread. Here's a nice comparison video of the BDDI/BDI21:
The Behringer is great. I've had mine for a couple of years at least. It's been dropped, tossed around and used a lot.
It sounds cool - I use mine as a tone shaper after my overdrive/distortion/fuz. It makes the dirt sound more musical. Love that little fugly pedal
It sounds cool - I use mine as a tone shaper after my overdrive/distortion/fuz. It makes the dirt sound more musical. Love that little fugly pedal
I've had a BDI21 since they came out. We use a Sansamp at church. I recently modified mine with switches to lift the mid cuts in the tube emulation circuit, adding also a control to adjust the mid levels. Before the two units (BDDI and BDI21) were interchangeable. No one at church could tell the difference, including me and the soundmen. Since the mod, I far prefer the BDI21. We have three rotating bass players and my Line 6 is a bit lower output than the other two players' basses (P bass Lyte and MM Stingray). Upping the drive on the BDDI just added more distortion. Our soundmen are reluctant to mess with the bass levels and prefer the same signal from the stage. The addition of the mids, getting rid of the mid cuts was just enough to add punch to my bass, equalize the volume with the other players, and my bass sits better in the mix and the room.
I've owned both but sold the BDI21. The ADI21 has a sweepable midrange control which is really nice and it has enough drive to add a little distortion. I haven't used it much with bass (nor do I use it much at all or any other pedals for that matter...too lazy to set them up). I do know that TBer Eli used his Tech21 Acoustic DI (the inspiration for the ADI21) quite a bit. I'll see if I can get him to chime in here.
Yes, I've used the Tech 21 Acoustic DI for years any time I need to go direct AND often with my Wishbass (no tone control on the instrument) when I gig with two basses and want to switch on stage.
The Acoustic DI has the mid-shift which I consider crucial to getting a good bass tone -- it can EQ correct darn near anything in the signal chain. It really doesn't provide a whole lot of overdrive; the "blend" is a tube/mic emulator that brings in some low end and seems to scoop some low mids for an overall smoother more traditional sound (with a little bit of drive). One thing it doesn't have is a stomp switch, so I use it as a "set-and forget" device. It is wonderful for my upright bass too. It is also a *really* good quality direct box. I've always called it my "Eli box" -- I can plug into anything and make it sound like *me*.
The Acoustic DI has been discontinued by Tech 21, and replaced by the Para Driver DI which still has the mid shift and adds a stomp switch and a "Drive" control. I've never played with one.
The Acoustic DI has the mid-shift which I consider crucial to getting a good bass tone -- it can EQ correct darn near anything in the signal chain. It really doesn't provide a whole lot of overdrive; the "blend" is a tube/mic emulator that brings in some low end and seems to scoop some low mids for an overall smoother more traditional sound (with a little bit of drive). One thing it doesn't have is a stomp switch, so I use it as a "set-and forget" device. It is wonderful for my upright bass too. It is also a *really* good quality direct box. I've always called it my "Eli box" -- I can plug into anything and make it sound like *me*.
The Acoustic DI has been discontinued by Tech 21, and replaced by the Para Driver DI which still has the mid shift and adds a stomp switch and a "Drive" control. I've never played with one.
