havent read the whole thread, but on the flip side, i dont understand why guys want to stare at a bunch of sweaty dudes. I mean stare in awe at jimmy page, no thanks, mick jagger, um no, eddie van halen, jaco, kurt cobain, none are my "type". I do like bands with guys in them, and had posters of metal bands on my wall as a kid, but I much prefer all female bands, or bands with most female members or at least female singers. You can pretty much find them in all genres too. Really makes the concerts more fun. Not that i would ever stare or have impure thoughts.
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Sausage fests --- why???
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Hmm, this thread has explained a lot to me about why I quit playing after I met my wife.
I will be happily married for 14 years tomorrow, and just recently got back into music again.
So I wonder what my motivation is for getting back into music again now. It was for sure for the chicks back in the day but now I really think it's for the love of the music.
Or maybe It's time for some strange.
Oh and give me a hot metal chick any day over some drunk bar fly skank who looks like they sleep in a tanning bed and learned dance moves from some 30 minute DVD program.
You know, the same ones who look like a goddess the night of the gig, but when you wake up in the morning and their face has melted off only to show that you have just slept with leather face's sister.
Talk about night of the living dead. At least with metal chicks, you know what your getting into.
I will be happily married for 14 years tomorrow, and just recently got back into music again.
So I wonder what my motivation is for getting back into music again now. It was for sure for the chicks back in the day but now I really think it's for the love of the music.
Or maybe It's time for some strange.
Oh and give me a hot metal chick any day over some drunk bar fly skank who looks like they sleep in a tanning bed and learned dance moves from some 30 minute DVD program.
You know, the same ones who look like a goddess the night of the gig, but when you wake up in the morning and their face has melted off only to show that you have just slept with leather face's sister.
Talk about night of the living dead. At least with metal chicks, you know what your getting into.
To quote Jack from the most recent episode of 30 Rock, "What brought me here? What brings anyone anywhere? Why do men build bridges, why are there jets? I was hoping to have sex tonight."
Thanks man! I can honestly say I started playing music because I loved the power of it. (Think Kiss Alive! when you are a 14 year old boy and it is shocking the hell out of your mom!). I was so awkward with girls when i was young that it never occured to me that I could attract girls by playing music.
As to the sausage fests.....it just seems to me that generally girls/women don't go for the death metal type of thing. Nor do I for that matter. Even heavy metal is not a fave among the ladies. My wife doesn't like metal. She says it makes her angry and agitated. Side effects that I enjoy, lol, that women don't.
Thanks again Ground Pounder for giving me a spot to jump in!
I think the metal music that is popular today isn't lyrically consistent with "love songs" like most traditional rock bands. The metal genre is about anger towards various things. I guess for me, the lyrical content of metal wouldn't interest most women (hate, death, anger, etc.) or at least any women I would be interested in. For that reason, I think most metal fans are male.
Thats no more true than all country being about your wife leaving you and taking your dog or all hip hop is about shooting people and "scuzzing hoes" (whatever that means
)Its very easy to make generalisations from the outside of a scene. Real heavy metal (I don't mean the teen angst-y stuff you see on tv) isn't about "hate, death and anger". some of it uses (somewhat childish) war imagery and indeed some of it does have the whole "hate death and anger" vibe, but some of it is very positive and even more of it is pretty neutral.
And there are still heavy metal love songs......unfortunately.
yah just like all the people who listen to hip hop hear are a bunch of gang bangers who get into trouble and are rough with their women
I'm sorry but that metal head stereotype is getting old.
Put youre money where youre mouth is buddy most metal heads i find are very laid back nice people believe it or not! metal musicians at least in my generation also seem to be the MOST talented, go to the local college here for jazz and you will see band shirts all over the place.
we play what we love and its energetic, as for it being middle aged white kids only, check out a band called sepultura from Brazil. Poor kids that played with their heart to make some REALLY heavy music
and yes REAL metal is usually about serious issues like war, and social/political problems, they also have very good stories and some are just stupid and fun.
I love classic rock, jazz and lues too but lets be honest here, sometimes lyric wise they aren't that creative. take Aerosmith for example, love the band but i think lyric wise they are stupid I MEAN WRITE SOMETHING THAT IS NOT ABOUT WOMEN!!!
Death Metal(the stuff where u can't hear anything and the singer ends up with tumors in his throat) Is very appealing to me. I don't go to shows like that, but I do listen to it. and Jimmy is right hardly girls listen ot death metal. I think girls see a more rapist like attitude in Death Metalers(hey I made up a new word) I may be completely wrong cuz there are a lot of factors, obviously, that come into play. But simple fact girls want to be wooed not raped.
I whole-heartedly agree with pretty much everything you just said.
The music I like and create is more or less southern metal or outlaw metal or kentucky-fried metal or whatever you want to call it. We are heavily influenced by bands like Down, Corrosion of Conformity, Black Label Society. But also ZZ Top, Allman Brothers and to some extent, Waylon Jennings, David Allan Coe, the Hanks, and other stuff along those lines.
To me, it just exudes a rough-and-tumbled manliness you can't find anywhere these days (note: NOT macho B.S., I'd still consider myself a good ol' fashioned gentleman). I've got a good woman myself, but the women who I would want to be interested in this music are the ones who have visions of cowboys walking in to a bar, shootin whiskey and sweepin a lady off her feet, throwin their coat over a puddle for em and stuff like that. Kinda corny or whatever but ya get the point.
I didn't read the whole topic, but it seems people actually didn't blow up too much at JimmyM. Good job, guys.
When I first started playing, I REALLY wanted to find a reason why girls would like the music I want to play most (jazz), but I failed to find any since I'm the only person in my school that likes jazz at all. As it stands right now, I can't really get into any other genre so I'm stuck where I am. Not that there's any problem with that.
When I first started playing, I REALLY wanted to find a reason why girls would like the music I want to play most (jazz), but I failed to find any since I'm the only person in my school that likes jazz at all. As it stands right now, I can't really get into any other genre so I'm stuck where I am. Not that there's any problem with that.
So the people who got into it for the other reasons you acknowledge are still lying?
I too saw the Beatles around the same period. I thought the shrieking girls with the raccoon eyes was pretty comical. I liked what tthe miusic they made. I didn't start playing bass until several years later. I started on trumpet and they're weren't many shrieking girls when I saw Miles Davis and Freddie Hubbard.
This is the same briliant logic behind "You ALL play fretless because of jaco". As crazy as it may seem, not everyone was plumb mortified of talkin' to girls when they were younger
. I didn't get into sports because of girls and I didn't get into music because of them either. Music is one of those things that has a draw that's just about impossible to explain, especially to a non-musician. I have no doubt some people don't experience that draw and simply saw it as door to an opportunity that had next to nothing to do with actual music. Cool. Those people tend to hit a wall musically and I doubt that's a coincidence.In the meantime, others got into it because there was an attraction. Playing was fun. Hell, practicing was fun. Performing was fun.
So the people who got into it for the other reasons you acknowledge are still lying?
This is the same briliant logic behind "You ALL play fretless because of jaco". As crazy as it may seem, not everyone was plumb mortified of talkin' to girls when they were younger
. I didn't get into sports because of girls and I didn't get into music because of them either. Music is one of those things that has a draw that's just about impossible to explain, especially to a non-musician. I have no doubt some people don't experience that draw and simply saw it as door to an opportunity that had next to nothing to do with actual music. Cool. Those people tend to hit a wall musically and I doubt that's a coincidence.In the meantime, others got into it because there was an attraction. Playing was fun. Hell, practicing was fun. Performing was fun.
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I started playing music so I wouldn't have to talk to people at parties...
Well, that and hearing Yes live in 1975 from the back of a big hockey arena. There were these tiny stick figures way up front on the stage, so tiny and they were SO LOUD!
Well, that, and listening to King Crimson back then and thinking "wow, I'm experiencing so much emotionally listening to this music, I HAVE to know what it's like to be the one PLAYING it..."
Those three pretty much sum it up.
Well, that and hearing Yes live in 1975 from the back of a big hockey arena. There were these tiny stick figures way up front on the stage, so tiny and they were SO LOUD!
Well, that, and listening to King Crimson back then and thinking "wow, I'm experiencing so much emotionally listening to this music, I HAVE to know what it's like to be the one PLAYING it..."
Those three pretty much sum it up.
If you're busy trying to win some girl over with drinks, chances are you have a lot less to be aggressive over than the average metalhead
I am so shocked and disappointed by this reply. I thought you of all people would understand. But I guess when you've got the broads flocking to you just by walking out the front door of your house, you can afford to do fun things just for funSo the people who got into it for the other reasons you acknowledge are still lying?
This is the same briliant logic behind "You ALL play fretless because of jaco". As crazy as it may seem, not everyone was plumb mortified of talkin' to girls when they were younger
In the meantime, others got into it because there was an attraction. Playing was fun. Hell, practicing was fun. Performing was fun.
Actually - this is remarkably similar to my own experience.
I loved KC albums, I was an introvert at parties and in 1974 I saw Yes at Loftus Road a football stadium in London!
I love sausage festival!
HA!!! I was gonna post that!
I definitely didn't start playing music cos of girls. I think I was about 8 when it all started, so yeah, I'd say I was pretty much not thinking about the ladies then.
BUT, I started playing BASS in high school, and I really only did that cos I wanted to rock and I was ALWAYS loving the low end.
But, I was also starting on offense and defense on our HS football team, and I'm pretty sure the Linebacker got more attention that the sloppy bass player.
These days I play in a really cool band that has a certain "edginess" to it. We have a few dudes from true hardcore roots, and we drop some VERY hard music 2 or 3 times a set, but not for too long, because if we do, the gents start rolling up front. So, then we switch it up, and put a little groove back in things, and the ladies push forward.
It's definitely calculated though. We don't stack up the hard songs specifically to keep the ladies up front. Sometimes this has its extra-curricular benefits, but as a band, when the ladies come up front, the guys loom just behind, and the front of the stage is PACKED.
If we play too hard, and dudes come up front and start smashing into each other, yeah, that one hardcore chick is in there getting pummeled, but the rest of them split and head for the bar, especially once the mosh pit opens for business.
SO, we try to maintain that "Stage Dive" balance, keeping the ladies and dudes ciculating a little, keeping people up front, so that we may, at any time, take a nice dive into the crowd. It's fun. Sometimes I like to do a front flip off the stage. The ladies LOVE that!!!
I started in highschool in metal an hardcore bands the chicks never took much intrest than . But when I turned 21 I played in a country cover band for a lil while And I was never hurtin for a date (good times)
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