Sausage fests --- why???

[cameltoe]

It might be different over in the States, but where I come from its not so much the music repulsing the girls, it's the girls losing interest in the music. I can't remember a time when it was as uncool to be a musician as it is now, and you have to be considered cool to get the attention of women. Over here at the moment if you want to get mobbed by girls, what you have to do is be either a rapper or a dance music DJ. As far as I'm aware, most girls (in my area of the UK) currently rate rock musicians at about the same level as the guy who picks up their trash on their scale of attractiveness.

All of the girls that used to go out and chase cool musicians now swoon after rich idiots that kick a bag of wind around an acre of grass. Yes my friend, footballers are the new rock stars. Back in the day Mick Jagger would have been balls-deep with Cheryl Tweedy in no time, nowadays those girls are getting married up to anyone who plays football (or soccer, for the US crowd.) and lets them have their own credit card.

There's a lesson in here- Girls follow the money. Simple as that.

 

[TheWolf]

I just read the whole thread and nobody has pointed out the obvious irony...

TALKBASS is a larger sausage fest than any Slayer/Rush Concert, but we are still all here!!!

:>

 

[Brad Johnson]

I am so shocked and disappointed by this reply. I thought you of all people would understand. But I guess when you've got the broads flocking to you just by walking out the front door of your house, you can afford to do fun things just for fun

I understand that people like to project. And being prone to exaggeration dovetails nicely with that.

 

[JimmyM]

I just read the whole thread and nobody has pointed out the obvious irony...

TALKBASS is a larger sausage fest than any Slayer/Rush Concert, but we are still all here!!!

:>

Yeah, but I'm going to a gig in 2 1/2 hours that isn't I'll never meet but maybe a small handful of people on here, but I'll see everyone who comes to my gig. And believe it or not, we actually get plenty of gals under 60 at our gigs

 

[alembicguy]

Under 60????

 

[JimmyM]

I do a lot of gigs at the Villages in Florida...Google it

 

[baalroo]

Vaguely related, I'd rather play a sausage fest than be surround by the types of "women" I see over on the "chicks at shows" thread. If that's what I'm missing out on I'll pass, thanks.

 

[Chuck King]

Go to any sausage-fest and you will see the kind of guys that girls just aren't into.

After six pages, the truth is proclaimed.

 

[SanDiegoHarry]

I don't know... I was in a pretty heavy band in the late '80s and had *zero* issue getting gals to come out... Strippers even!

 

[frozilla]

So some of you realized early on that you had no hope and made the best of it?

......







.....yes

 

[peterbright]

I don't think there's anything I could add. I have plenty of hankies though.

 

[hmjuice]

I have to agree with a lot of JimmyM's post. I started on drums at 10 because no one in my family played them and they needed a drummer for the family sing along. I later picked up guitar in middle school and then picked up a bass in high school when a friend put together a band and they already had two guitarist. Now being in high school I found out that cheerleaders were more into football and baseball players than band geeks so I went the jock route. But I still played in a garage band that had a handful of gigs through out my time there that turned out to be a great place to meet the non-cheerleader types. So I was working both groups.

By the time I was in college all you had to do was play three chords on a guitar and you could say you're a musician but it didn't get you girls. At this point I wasn't involved in sports anymore so I hit the woodshed and got in a cover band playing parties and some bars and then the it was evident that if you're in the band getting girls was a lot easier. It was at this point that I discovered Stanley, Jaco and Marcus then it all changed for me and I was only 18.

So I didn't technically start for the girls but that perk didn't hurt. All in all, I really dig playing bass and being in a band, to me there aren't a lot things better than playing with a group and making sounds that move people.

I'm in my mid 30's now and married and guess what I met my wife when I was filling in for a friend in another band. She's way better looking than I am so good for me!

 

[Stanley Design]

The only reason I started making music, and still to this day the main reason I MAKE music, is because I need to make the cool tunes in my head come out and put them on a cd so I can sit there and listen to it really loud. I've been from country to crust to power violence to thrash to reggae to indie etc. I've done a lot of styles just to scratch that internal itch I have.

The same goes with everything in my life, and I see most people do most things in their life to look hot to the opposite sex (lifestyle, music, clothes, etc). I do it all for me. It doesn't mean I don't try and swindle my way into a girls underpants when I'm passed out in the alleyway behind the sleaziest bar in town with a quart of rum half drank and my pants undone, but it's not the reason I started the life I did.

 

[Lutuh]

Alright, so I've been with this amazing thread from the beginning and also wanna make my point (which is nothing new).

I've music genes, started with flute and trumpet, switched over to guitar at 13/14 or so. My father had been playing bass in his youth, but this didn't appeal to me at that time. We started a band, and music really was for its own sake.
What then surprised me was that sometimes, girls would show up at the rehearsals, which at this time, annoyed me. Also I got some appropriation from the girls' side of which I wasn't really capable of. We quit that band after highschool.

Now, after four non-musical years and before the end of my studies, I need to get back into a band again (on the bass this time, I matured , and hopefully that happens next week), and this time there are other motifs for me, too. Having separated from one of that band-girls from highschool times a few weeks ago, I need some new faces around me. So, beneath playing in a band again, there is a BIG social aspect in it for me this time while at the beginning, it was just me, my feelings and my guitar.

just to scratch that internal itch I have.

Hah! Radiohead, The Bends (1995), My Iron Lung! Intended?

 

[MisterMagician]

Well...

I started Bass because it was the most powerful instrument that I have ever heard. There is nothing like playing a groove and hearing the walls shake.

I started becoming interested in playing music because of the psychadelic guitar nooding of Omar Rodriquez-Lopez.

I started actually liking music in general after I heard the poetic nature of Arif's lyrics on Kezia by Protest the Hero. Before then, music was just a minor annoyance and a way to get women.


I would say that my reasons for playing are completely artistic. Though having girls at shows really does equalize the amount of stupidity large groups of men can get into.

 

[hbarcat]

I freely admit that I joined my first band in the late 80's at the age of 18 because I wanted to get girls. It was a Black Sabbath tribute band and I played the part of Ozzy. While the girls that came out to the shows were certainly outnumbered by the Beavis and Butthead types of guys, there were still enough of the girls there to make it worth my while. I was attracted to the type of girl who wears leather jackets and torn blue jeans and isn't much into "relationships". And as the lead singer, I was in the prime positioin to get the ladies.

When we lost our bassist and had a hard time finding a decent replacement, I ended up learning the bass and that's when musicianship became a consideration for me. Perhaps a close second to girls as a priority.

 

[Fnord Explorer]

If you really are adamant about getting girls, put down the instrument and learn how to throw a football.

 

[runmikeyrun]

I got into music partly because girls hated metal. Not that i was gay or anything, i just despised the pretty snotty girls at our school who listened to crap music (this was the early 90s). Anything i could do to repulse them was a bonus.

Fast forward- i've played in bands of different genres that attracted moderately hot girls- rapcore in the mid 90s, old school hardcore in the early 2000's (it was trendy then) but my main math metal band has never really attracted many girls and I'm ok with that- i was either dating or married to my wife that entire time. She tolerates my GAS and comes to shows when she can. She's very supportive of my addiction to music.

I always saw other guys in the band having problems with their girlfriends limiting their time at practice and i never wanted any part of that. In your late teens/early 20s they also have a tendency to expect you to not spend so much time working on your motorcycles, going to shows, and can become quite expensive to keep around. I wanted to spend my money on restoring my motorcycles and amassing gear. These things made me infinitely more happy than a whiny nagging chick. You members can quote me on that!

 

[spade2you]

If you really are adamant about getting girls, put down the instrument and learn how to throw a football.

Or be in a boy band. Most of us will be too old and/or ugly for this.

 

[Depth_Charge]

I, unlike most of you liars, freely admit that I got into music for the girls. The sight of the Beatles on TV playing to huge crowds of teenage girls had a huge impact on a 4 year old Jimmy Miller, and even though I'm married now and don't need music for girls anymore, it was by far the main reason I got into it. It certainly wasn't money. Sure, there are other reasons involved, like a love for music or natural inclinations, but I have firmly believed that guys who say they didn't get into music for the girls are either gay and got into it for the guys, or they're liars.

I'm having to modify that stance now, though, because there seems to be a few types of music now, mostly of the metal genres, that specialize in repulsing girls. I totally don't understand.

It's tough to pinpoint when sausage fests first started. I think Black Sabbath was probably the first major male-oriented band. I don't think Sabbath did it on purpose, though. I think they sincerely thought they'd girls would be into them as well. A lot of similar bands that followed also figured girls into the equation, even if they never quite materialized.

But compared to today's male-oriented bands, Sabbath might as well have been the Backstreet Boys. These metal bands today purposely go out of their way to ensure that girls won't like them, and they seem defiantly proud of it. I don't get it. I'm not saying that you have to play wuss music or anything like that, but when you do a gig and you look out at the crowd and it's almost all guys, doesn't that creep you out a little? And doesn't that make you want to modify what you're doing just a little so you attract more girls?

Someone explain this to me. I try to be open minded to new things, but purposely wanting to make music that only sweaty teenage boys will like seems a bit off to me.

I used to go watch local metal concerts all the time in my youth and the girls that went got sick of getting pushed around, smashed into, fell on and felt up by guys either while watching, moshing, stage diving or crowd surfing. It got to the point singers were constantly reminding guys to have respect and the bouncers and boyfriends would start over-reacting and before you know it...shut down!

I have 3 daughters today. If I still had a metal band I wouldn't want too many females in my audiences either, not becuase I want to repulse them or not enjoy my music, but between the risk of rape and injury I'd rather not promote that environment to women personally.