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SBL Talks Giacomo Turra
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Brandon Shea
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Whatever you do: don’t forget to like and subscribe. Please!What I don't understand is why anyone would want to watch more than one of those types of videos (over a million subscribers?).
HIs name is Danny Sapko. He's a very good bass player, and also has a wicked sense of humour.
the dude's playing faces are so funny, the little satisfied smile that he stuck or found a note etc. the mouth breathing when he's doing legato stuff. super aesthetic lol. maybe the most successful air guitarist ever?
a lot of guitarists look like they're either holding an invisible bone in their mouth or they do the deadpan reptile face.
personally I go for 'focused dancing' face, what is everybody else rocking?
a lot of guitarists look like they're either holding an invisible bone in their mouth or they do the deadpan reptile face.
personally I go for 'focused dancing' face, what is everybody else rocking?
I'm working on my Frank Itt impersonation.
I just watch the sbl video on this entire situation and watched a dozen or so other videos from other players in the past week or so with their takes and views. It's actually a fascinating topic BUT, I'm absolutely tapped out, exhausted, stick a fork in me, DONE with this guy who I honestly never even heard of before this all came to light a few weeks ago. He's obviously paying the price for all of it now not just monetarily but also mentally I would imagine. His entire reputation, image, friends, industry contacts, ect ect... EVERYTHING has been completely obliterated now from his own doing. I really hope he just gets the mental help he obviously needs to somehow move on from this and figure out his life from this point on. That all being said, the most humorous outtake from all this that will forever be embeded in my brain is Janek Gwizdala nicknaming him "Guacamole Tuna". Yep I'm done, that is all. 
Rick dodges the topic altogether. He spends the whole time talking about "miming" and why it's ok. Everybody in the comments is like "We don't care about miming, what about stealing songs?", to which Rick replied "Oh, go watch Danny's video about that." He makes a very half-hearted criticism about how it's not cool to steal music, but buries it in between rants about miming being ok.
In his closing it felt like he was trying to make excuses for Giacomo, saying that there's a lot of pressure on people to be perfect and that may have been what drove him to it. Then he goes off the rails again talking about how miming isn't that big of a deal.
He very clearly didn't want to talk about it at all, he was pressured by his viewers to say something.
This may be weird, but I was kind of relieved by the news 
His videos popped up in my social media, and my reaction always was:
- this is really impressive
- but the music doesn't do anything for me and
- I don't know why, but I really don't like this guy
Turns out I was not simply jealous because he is better looking and a better player than me, but my gut feeling was right and he is a wordthatIcan'treallysayhere. Huge relief
His videos popped up in my social media, and my reaction always was:
- this is really impressive
- but the music doesn't do anything for me and
- I don't know why, but I really don't like this guy
Turns out I was not simply jealous because he is better looking and a better player than me, but my gut feeling was right and he is a wordthatIcan'treallysayhere. Huge relief
Adam Neely has a good video on the subject that expands in an interesting direction.
Adam Neely made a pretty interesting video about this. Not just specifically about Turra, but the phenomenon of faked performances in general, and what is considered permissible in different subcultures.
Personally, I don’t really care above the faking. I don’t like it, but it’s pretty much what I’ve come to expect from videos like Turra’s. And I wouldn’t even watch them if they were real. What does bother me is the stealing of other people’s work and making money of it while barely crediting them. I think he even sold tabs of their work.
Personally, I don’t really care above the faking. I don’t like it, but it’s pretty much what I’ve come to expect from videos like Turra’s. And I wouldn’t even watch them if they were real. What does bother me is the stealing of other people’s work and making money of it while barely crediting them. I think he even sold tabs of their work.
I started watching this yesterday and had to stop for this reason. SCOTT! STAY ON TASK AND GET TO THE POINT!
I like Ian, but pretty much everything about Scott irritates me. I find they can both be a bit pompous and out of touch with shall we say lower budget players.
We've watched many of these vids (including with the kids) since Danny's came out. The influencer culture of hits and likes, and pretend 30 secs of wonderful, is not healthy. Added to that a strong commercial incentive. The product is the clip, not the experience or reality underneath.
I hope this is a reminder to stay with what's real and be your own best self, not someone else's best self. While GT is not a guitar prodigy (and having seen his vids for a long time part of me is secretly relieved cos it seemed too good to be true) he can still play as well as many, and if he'd channeled that effort into some grooves of his own he could still have done really well. I doubt many of his audience really appreciated how complex the material he played was. You don't need that to hit No1 and never have.
Anyway, here's hoping he and others like him can move on and still find ways for music to be positive parts of their lives. Take care out there all.
I hope this is a reminder to stay with what's real and be your own best self, not someone else's best self. While GT is not a guitar prodigy (and having seen his vids for a long time part of me is secretly relieved cos it seemed too good to be true) he can still play as well as many, and if he'd channeled that effort into some grooves of his own he could still have done really well. I doubt many of his audience really appreciated how complex the material he played was. You don't need that to hit No1 and never have.
Anyway, here's hoping he and others like him can move on and still find ways for music to be positive parts of their lives. Take care out there all.
That's fair. But from a person that didn't know much about it, he gave the bullet points and his take. Obviously he didn't want to comment on it, and he states that at the beginning. Seems like his focus is on generating content that he feels will be cool or beneficial, and isn't interested in bashing random creators. I mean, he says bluntly that the dude wasn't good enough at guitar to even be posted on his channel, and almost dismissed him from that point on.
Rick was upfront about the fact that he wouldn't be repeating what everyone else has already said, and that viewers should go straight to Danny's original video if they wanted to know what the controversy was all about.
Rick was first and foremost talking about why he hadn't published his video with Giacomo (and wouldn't be, just to pile in on the guy).
The reason Rick hadn't, and won't be publishing said video, is because it immediately became clear to him that Giacomo simply didn't have the required still to play live during the interview.
Rick went on talk about some of the reasons people mime to playback (standard operating procedure in most TV shows, particularly music shows of yesteryear like Top Of The Pops, and music videos), and that audiences accept it as part of a "stage show" in arena concerts. He also touched on the debate about using backing tapes / "production" to augment some live bands.
Rick's video wasn't really about Giacomo, it was about Rick maintaining his own brands standards - and from that point of view I think he said what needed to be said, and professionally said no more.
Recent Janek Gwizdala podcast featuring his wife Chelsea on this topic was excellent.
Got a chance to listen to the podcast. I guess what they are trying to say is
- stealing is not okay
- heavy editing is...
-- okay, when it is about the song and not about the performance
-- not okay, when it is about the performance and not about the song.
I can agree with that, and especially in this case. The whole point of this guy's channel seemed to be: "Look at what an amazing player I am!!!" Moral considerations aside, I kind of feel for the guy. What a sad existence, what a shallow character.
This may be weird, but I was kind of relieved by the news
His videos popped up in my social media, and my reaction always was:
- this is really impressive
- but the music doesn't do anything for me and
- I don't know why, but I really don't like this guy
Turns out I was not simply jealous because he is better looking and a better player than me, but my gut feeling was right and he is a wordthatIcan'treallysayhere. Huge relief
So, if there were a control like the colour slider in a photo app; where physical attractiveness & musical ability are directly linked...
What happens when you dial his physical appearance all the way back, to about where your physical appearance sits on the scale - who's the better player?
