I don’t know if this has been discussed on TB, but it has been a huge controversy on the internet.
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SBL Talks Giacomo Turra
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I don’t know if this has been discussed on TB, but it has been a huge controversy on the internet.
As usual Scott says “let me give you the thirty second summary” and then rambles FOREVER to get there. It’s probably an interesting story but I ain’t prepared to listen to his waffle to find out.
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Giacomo Turra was busted by that English guy who is always talking about BEHS! Turra was stealing music from obscure videos, recorded it at slow tempos and then editing and miming the parts so he looked like a virtuoso.
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Oh that guy. I've seen a couple of his videos as they have popped up on social media. Something definitely seemed off but at this point I'm so used to hearing quantized "live" takes that I just dismissed him as another hyper musician I don't want to listen to. If the allegations are legit then it's not at all surprising. Of course there are going to be people pulling this kind of thing. What I don't understand is why anyone would want to watch more than one of those types of videos (over a million subscribers? 
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Lighten up. It’s an hour podcast… and actually a really good one. Long-form podcasts are designed for in-depth discussion.
And selling them as his own
I watched it earlier. Never in my life have I considered doing this. Even slowing down a song, recording and speeding it back up - nope.
Some ppl need a lot of attention and have no shame.
Some ppl need a lot of attention and have no shame.
The video Danny Sapko made was really good at explaining the fraud.
The last band I was in, back in the Eighties, we played Chaka Khan that started with a really fast synthesizer line. The keyboardist could not play it, so played it at a comfortable rate and recorded on the synth’s sequencer and then speed it up to the desired speed. He played other keyboard parts while that intro was automated. It did bother me because the song sounded good live.
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I sort of feel that Giacomo is the IRL, flesh & bone manifestation of ChatGPT.
In many respects he's the logical outcome of an unsustainable music industry, further undermined by machine learning - this may be the future.
Yeah, I've seen a few videos about this in the last couple of weeks and there's really no defending someone that goes out and steals others material and gives absolutely no credit to the original artists.
Rick Beato also gives his insight into the fraud. His is fairly concise if you want to look it up.
Honestly, that's not even in the same league as what Giacomo is doing. I don't really have a problem with a live band playing covers doing some things to make the tune better for the audience, in your case the keyboard player using a sequencer. At least your keyboard player wasn't trying to take credit for the song as if it was their own.
I think they are all enjoying the added clicks they are getting!
I bowed out half way, but...
The sad thing is that G was too lazy to play catchup with his woodshedding, if he even tried. His quick success revealed him.
A video on showing how he caught up to his fame would have been interesting, but extremely risky. If he pulled that off with a self reveal at the end, showing the process, etc
However, a self reveal may have generated a controversy still, just a different kind.
Idiots will put their effort into the wrong thing. That much effort spent on training would have produced impressive results. As things are, G boy destroyed his cred for 'good'.
Plagiarism is not new or interesting. One hour waffle plate with all the fixings.
I will check out Beato's video, though.
The sad thing is that G was too lazy to play catchup with his woodshedding, if he even tried. His quick success revealed him.
A video on showing how he caught up to his fame would have been interesting, but extremely risky. If he pulled that off with a self reveal at the end, showing the process, etc
However, a self reveal may have generated a controversy still, just a different kind.
Idiots will put their effort into the wrong thing. That much effort spent on training would have produced impressive results. As things are, G boy destroyed his cred for 'good'.
Plagiarism is not new or interesting. One hour waffle plate with all the fixings.
I will check out Beato's video, though.
indeed. everyone seems to have an opinion and they each start with "i've been asked about this by a lot of people and i just can't stay silent any longer."
There were a couple of videos of him collaborating with another content creator, playing live at a music conference / expo.
When Danny exposed him, and the story gathered momentum, the other content creator (sorry, I've forgotten his name) released the aforementioned video, both with the full audio mix, and with Giacomo isolated - the results are kind of tortuous : he basically runs out of material, and ideas, after about 16 bars.
From that point onwards, he's either repeating the same idea ad nauseum, or flailing wildly in the hope that something will materialise.
It's pretty toe curling.
I know, I mentioned it because reproducing stuff live accurately might require some slight of hand.
