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Schecter Apocalypse or Ibanez SR670?

Ibanez SR670 or Schecter C-4 EX Apocalypse?

  • Ibanez SR670

    Votes: 31 47.7%

  • Schecter C-4 EX

    Votes: 34 52.3%
  • Total voters
    65
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Rnr..........4

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Hey all. Mostly interested in Heavy metal, black metal, hard rock type stuff..

I am having a hard time deciding between these two guitars. I know the Schecter can play in BEAD tuning straight out of the box which is a bonus.. since it's 35 scale (not sure if you can tune standard with baritone strings?) It's also completely Swamp Ash with string thru. Not too thrilled on the color but the ebony fingerboard is great. Invalid Link Removed

The other is the Ibanez SR670. Mahogany body/Ash top. I like the pickups better on this one because at least I think I could change them compared to the Schecter if it sounded bad (doubt it). I've also used Ibanez guitars and always liked the neck slimness. I know the Schecter looks more metal but I tend to go against the grain and be different. Invalid Link Removed

I found one of the Schecter C-1 Apocalypse EX models for $670 used (cosmetic). So the price is about the same. For the Ibanez w/case $780. Schecter w/case $825

I am also looking at a much cheaper ESP LTD or a Spector Performer. Not really a fan of lower priced Ibanez basses. Trying to avoid basswood.
 
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Rnr..........4 said:
Hey all. Mostly interested in Heavy metal, black metal, hard rock type stuff..

I am having a hard time deciding between these two guitars. I know the Schecter can play in BEAD tuning straight out of the box which is a bonus.. since it's 35 scale (not sure if you can tune standard with baritone strings?) It's also completely Swamp Ash with string thru. Not too thrilled on the color but the ebony fingerboard is great. Invalid Link Removed

The other is the Ibanez SR670. Mahogany body/Ash top. I like the pickups better on this one because at least I think I could change them compared to the Schecter if it sounded bad (doubt it). I've also used Ibanez guitars and always liked the neck slimness. I know the Schecter looks more metal but I tend to go against the grain and be different. Invalid Link Removed

I found one of the Schecter C-1 Apocalypse EX models for $670 used (cosmetic). So the price is about the same. For the Ibanez w/case $780. Schecter w/case $825

I am also looking at a much cheaper ESP LTD or a Spector Performer. Not really a fan of lower priced Ibanez basses. Trying to avoid basswood.
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I think this Apocalypse looks a bit more apocalyptic.
 
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The Apocalypse is an excellent bass! I can't speak to the SR670, specifically, however a do really like my Mikro and the other Ibby's that I've played all felt & sounded great to me. But the Apocalypse really brings an aggressive sound to the table, which is exactly what metal demands :thumbsup:
 
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Well I'll be honest I do like Schecter a lot more than Ibanez. Even though they make solid cheap basses I've never really liked the cheaper soundgears. I thought 650 for the Schecter apocalypse was a hell of a deal considering it goes for 1200 new. It was marked down due to just cosmetic issues and it weighs in at 9 pounds. Not sure why it's almost half off to be honest just for cosmetic reasons?

Went to guitar center today just to get a feel for the different wood types. Definitely think mahogany sounds way better than basswood.
 
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Kriegs said:
The Apocalypse is an excellent bass! I can't speak to the SR670, specifically, however a do really like my Mikro and the other Ibby's that I've played all felt & sounded great to me. But the Apocalypse really brings an aggressive sound to the table, which is exactly what metal demands :thumbsup:
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Can you tune it standard if it's 35 scale with baritone strings?
 
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Kriegs said:
Are you asking if you can tune the low B string to a standard E?
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Yeah on a bass configured to BEAD tuning with a 35 scale and using Ernie Ball 4 String Super Long Baritone, .065-.130 ?

I'm just asking because if it's 35 scale with 4 strings then it wouldn't need the truss rod adjusted correct?

This apocalypse i'm looking at is a 4-string bass. Just learning about the technical aspects now but have played guitar on and off for a few years. Just forget.
 
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Rnr..........4 said:
Yeah on a bass configured to BEAD tuning with a 35 scale and using Ernie Ball 4 String Super Long Baritone, .065-.130 ?

I'm just asking because if it's 35 scale with 4 strings then it wouldn't need the truss rod adjusted correct?

This apocalypse i'm looking at is a 4-string bass. Just learning about the technical aspects now but have played guitar on and off for a few years. Just forget.
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Every time you change strings, you'll need a new setup (truss, saddle heights, intonation). You'll need a new setup periodically, anyway. That shouldn't be a deciding factor at all.

Anyway - I love my Schecters tuned BEAD! Bridge and nut filing will be required. No matter what, you're gonna need to adjust your instrument.
 
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Rnr..........4 said:
Well I'll be honest I do like Schecter a lot more than Ibanez. Even though they make solid cheap basses I've never really liked the cheaper soundgears. I thought 650 for the Schecter apocalypse was a hell of a deal considering it goes for 1200 new. It was marked down due to just cosmetic issues and it weighs in at 9 pounds. Not sure why it's almost half off to be honest just for cosmetic reasons?

Went to guitar center today just to get a feel for the different wood types. Definitely think mahogany sounds way better than basswood.
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The apocalypse isn't basswood
 
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Rnr..........4 said:
Hey all. Mostly interested in Heavy metal, black metal, hard rock type stuff..

I am having a hard time deciding between these two guitars. I know the Schecter can play in BEAD tuning straight out of the box which is a bonus.. since it's 35 scale (not sure if you can tune standard with baritone strings?) It's also completely Swamp Ash with string thru. Not too thrilled on the color but the ebony fingerboard is great. Invalid Link Removed

The other is the Ibanez SR670. Mahogany body/Ash top. I like the pickups better on this one because at least I think I could change them compared to the Schecter if it sounded bad (doubt it). I've also used Ibanez guitars and always liked the neck slimness. I know the Schecter looks more metal but I tend to go against the grain and be different. Invalid Link Removed

I found one of the Schecter C-1 Apocalypse EX models for $670 used (cosmetic). So the price is about the same. For the Ibanez w/case $780. Schecter w/case $825

I am also looking at a much cheaper ESP LTD or a Spector Performer. Not really a fan of lower priced Ibanez basses. Trying to avoid basswood.
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Nah, try Invalid Link Removed (in red) or Invalid Link Removed. Better looking and I know from owning one for years that it's versatile and well-made.
 
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Charlzm said:
Nah, try Invalid Link Removed (in red) or Invalid Link Removed. Better looking and I know from owning one for years that it's versatile and well-made.
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I'e always liked the hellraiser, but I already have many active basses, and I really wanted a passive that could do a variety of different tones and sound great on my tube amp. Passive and tubes.....drool
 

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