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Scott Thunes Interivew I don't get it?

#41
Wow... hmmm, he's got some pretty wild views on music. I agree that a large percentage of music is regurgitated crap. I don't dig the whole bass isn't a voice crap. He's anti root-note-rock because it isn't a voice, but he calls it a vital part of rock. But then he goes on to say that no one should play the bass.

I understand you guys standing by him because he's a great musician, but you guys are defending his dickatry a little too much. Sure he was great, Zappa was great, but if Ryan from MudVaYne (who is a great musician... stop denying it!!!) put down the bass or something of some musicial nature, you'd be, to quote 311... all up in his mix like ****in' betty crocker.
 
#42
Yes, scott does state "no one should play bass" In my opinion it is an ignorant remark.

Because who is going to hold the music up!! Bass, as we all know is an important part of music...It is the back bone...Music without bass sucks!!!! Hell, somebody's got to do the job and I am proud to say I'll do it :D
 
#43
He made perfect sense to me. I haven't heard his playing so I can't speak for that, but what he says isn't out there or misguided in any big way.

I suspect those people who have mastered the art of listening to what people mean rather than what they say are the ones who "get" this interview. Getting worked up over statements like "bass is not a voice" is only going to make you understand less.


It is one's ATTITUDE that determine's one's ALITITUDE; ability comes next.
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That's simply naive. Ever heard of Buddy Rich? Yeah, the greatest drummer in the world? Well, he wasn't exactly the nicest guy. Fact is, the entertainment industry is stuffed with people who run the gamut from cold and uncaring to utter and complete bastards or worse. Chuck Berry is another which comes to mind.

Why did anyone work with them? Cos they were fantastic performers, and there was money in it.
 
#44
Originally posted by StupidMatt


you guys are defending his dickatry a little too much.
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Man, I though I was the only one who used the word
"dickatry" in normal speech. South Park reference?:)

As with AJ, Hub, Timmy C, and whoever it is you know it's going to be next week, I'm more concerned about what cats are playing than what they're saying.
 
#45
Well, I think the music industry meaning the people who do run it are cold and uncarring, however, I have met two "famous" musicians I will not mention names and they are KIND and CARING toward fans, and do LOVE there instrument...

Not everyone is like Buddy rich, or Chuck Berry..AS stated the ******** who run the music industry are jerks, but there are a lot of cool musicians out there that are great to work with and nice to people and don't make ignorant comments...

But, as someone stated earlier...Why is it that all of us including me who started this thread is getting worked up about Scott Thunes opinion. It's just his opinion and this is true...

I love playing bass and I like being the back bone of the band and yes, I also like playing rock music as well as all kinds of music...
 
#46
I think that although Thullman is showing a lot of ignorance, he is making some valid points too.

What I don't agree with is that the bass should automatically be religated to the rhythm section.

What does the song call for? That's the bottom line for me. When every musician is doing their job properly then the music will be served. And that can take you anywhere.

What I do agree with is the idea of being a musician rather than a bassist. Why should one limit oneself with that one dimensional thinking? If you can think in terms of vocalist, guitarist, bassist, keyboardist, and drummer, then won't you be able to better serve the music?
 
#47
Not everyone is like Buddy rich, or Chuck Berry..AS stated the ******** who run the music industry are jerks, but there are a lot of cool musicians out there that are great to work with and nice to people and don't make ignorant comments...
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Well, of course not. And thank goodness! My point was really that in the real world, people of all stripes litter the turd-filled, stinking, overflowing gutter of the music business like the trash they are.

OK? :)

There are also plenty of fantastic people out there, no question.
 
#48
Originally posted by jerry
If Scott gave a "everything is wonderful" interview.......this thread would have had three posts......now there is a lot more people thinking maybe I should check this guy out!!!:D
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Exactly! Like when Nietzsche said "God is dead" -- he didn't mean that there would be a funeral day after next, he meant to give people a figurative slap in the face and to make them *think* about things so fundamental that they generally were taken for granted rather than questioned...

:)
 
#50
I can't imagine why anyone would get worked up about this now. That interview is old news.

And I couldn't understand why anyone got worked up about it back then. Thunes was long gone from the scene at the time of the interview.

Tom Wictor interviewed a lot of people who were important to him. Scott Thunes was just one of them. Wictor wan't trying to influence anyone or suggesting anyone follow Thunes' advice or have that kind of attitude. He was just trying to find out what made the guy tick. Take it at face value. Leave it at that.

As for the rift between Thunes and the other band members, Zappa was the leader and did what he felt he had to in the situation. It's pointless to argue now about who was right.
 
#56
Originally posted by kalo
To give up playing bass and work as a doorman is "sad",
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No, it's "paying the bills".

People think that I'm wasting my talents because I worked in the computer industry and I'm making plans to attend college for pyschology. It's an ignorant idea that a lot of people have, who think that just because you're a talented musician, you can just go out to LA and you'll become a rock star, or all you do is move down to Nashville and in a week or so you'll get a nice session gig. Hell, you can be signed to a major label, but it still doesn't mean you are making lots of money.

Not saying your ignorant or anything, just that it's a misconception that being a good musician = being a sucessful musician.

As far as Scott, I liked some of the stuff he said I liked and agreed upon, and some of the stuff I didn't. He seems pretty cynical about musicians. My better judgement it telling me that 9 times out of 10, he was the cause of such much tension, but that's niether here nor there. I do like the candor about the music business though.
 
#57
Originally posted by bassmonkeee
In the world I live in, there are A-Holes with every job under the sun. Attitude is NOT everything. Doing the job that is asked of you is.
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Amen. In my world, being an a-hole is a requirement.

I used to have this in my sig block, from that interview:

"If you think the sound of the bass is more important than your own personal voice, you've missed the point of music completely."

I think he's brilliant.
 
#59
Originally posted by lump


Amen. In my world, being an a-hole is a requirement.

>>> Sounds like the Los Angeles Police Department.
You must be an MP over there in Korea...




I used to have this in my sig block, from that interview:

"If you think the sound of the bass is more important than your own personal voice, you've missed the point of music completely."

I think he's brilliant.

>>>> How can a washed-up bass player working
as a doorman be considered brilliant?
DaVinci was brilliant, Einstein was
brilliant. Thunes is more like a dim bulb.
The saddest thing in life is a waste of
talent.....
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#60
Originally posted by slugworth
Originally posted by lump


Amen. In my world, being an a-hole is a requirement.

>>> Sounds like the Los Angeles Police Department.
You must be an MP over there in Korea...




I used to have this in my sig block, from that interview:

"If you think the sound of the bass is more important than your own personal voice, you've missed the point of music completely."

I think he's brilliant.

>>>> How can a washed-up bass player working
as a doorman be considered brilliant?
DaVinci was brilliant, Einstein was
brilliant. Thunes is more like a dim bulb.
The saddest thing in life is a waste of
talent.....
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You know about as much about me as you do about Thunes.

Pookie.
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