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Serious Electric Bass by Joel Di Bartolo

A few minutes ago I received the best bass instruction book I have ever seen: "Serious Electric Bass: The Bass Player's Complete Guide to Scales and Chords," by the late Joel Di Bartolo. I was sad to learn that Maestro Di Bartolo recently passed away, but I am happy to dedicate my first Talk Bass thread to him.

I have only been playing bass for a few months, but have been a musician for 40 years -- classical guitar for 25+ and electric guitar ten years before that, trumpet and clarinet during my youth (among experimentation several other wind/brass instruments), piano classes during my undergraduate studies, and I have been playing Brazilian percussion for about a decade. However, I have fallen in love with the electric bass, and have begun (hopefully) a very long love affair.

Since I am once again a broke graduate student (this time science), I have to rely on my past skills and new instruction books (nothing replaces a real teacher, IMHO). So, I began a long, in-depth search for suitable bass methods, and luckily I found Talk Bass because there is so much great advice in every regard to the bass-playing world.

After reading several threads on Talk Bass and elsewhere about the bass instruction books available (and out of print), I developed criteria for selecting bass instruction books:

1. NO TAB notation!!!
2. Logical pedagogical routines that foster sight reading in bass clef, and hand position/movement studies
3. Scales, chords, and a variety patterns
4. The above must be usable for improvisation
5. The information and exercise routines must be presented and related to music theory
6. The information and exercise routines must be at a level that makes me think very hard
7. Information and exercise routines must have a universal quality, in that they not only work for the electric bass, but other bass clef instruments (to some degree)
8. NO TAB NOTATION!!!!

Okay, it may appear that I do not like tab notation -- Yes and no. I spent several years studying lute and vihuela tablature, and even did a little research on Spanish and German keyboard tablature. However, I view modern guitar tab notation to be a hinderance to musical literacy. I am not saying it does not have its place, nor am I criticizing its useful and practical aspects, especially if it leads to mastery of instrumental technique, and hopefully inspires a desire to learn standard notation. Lastly, if one enjoys reading tab notation, then please disregard my personal pet peeve.

My point is that the use of tab notation has grown to an absurd proportion in the printed literature in the past two decades, so much to the point (I believe) it fosters illiteracy (I am sure many here will find exceptions). In addition, since I have studied and played other instruments that required me to read standard notation, as well as understand and properly perform rhythm, I have been able to compare the results to my guitar playing, which I initially learned by ear and did not read (I learned tab on the guitar before reading music notation).

I can say from personal experience and countless observations, the majority of guitar players I have ever heard CANNOT play with good rhythm. Several years ago I concluded this after learning classical guitar and piano, and Brazilian percussion, the latter of which I initially learned by ear.

The tab vs. music notation debate, I believe, has already taken place in countless other threads, and I apologize for such a long explanation regarding my first criteria choice of NO TAB NOTATION!! :D

One last, economical point about tab notation: it takes up about half the space on a page, so one is getting less music for their money. Many bass books, once the tab is removed, are reduced to just a dozen or so pages. All one has to do is compare books by Carol Kaye, Bob Cranshaw, Ron Carter, Ray Brown, Rufus Reid, Ed Fuqua, Adriano Giffoni, and last but not least Roger Filiberto with tab notated books. The sheer volume of information available in Di Bartolo's book would require several volumes if it included tab.

I think "Patterns for Jazz" by Jerry Coker et al. is one of the best books available, and so is Wilson and Viola's "Chord Studies for the Trombone," which was also published more recently as a book for bass guitar, by Appleman and Viola (it includes bass guitar fingerings -- I have the 1968 edition for trombone, which I prefer because I want to create my own fingerings). The latter contains 144 pages of exercises, Coker's book has about 180 pages (versions in other clefs are available), and Di Bartolo's book has about 270 pages, most of which is music (the beginning discusses instrument set-up, etc.). However, if I were to recommend tab notation books, I would begin with Ed Friedland, Jeff Berlin, and the "Toque de Mestre Series" (in Portuguese, and probably only available in Brazil) (there are other good ones, so please forgive the omissions).

Lastly, I want to say how grateful I am to own Maestro Di Bartolo's book, "Serious Electric Bass." Please do yourself a favor and buy a copy for yourself, or another bass player, which would make a great Christmas or birthday present.

May this book never go out of print!!

... peace from New Orleans :cool:

PS. Rest in peace, Maestro Di Bartolo, and thank you very very much!!
 

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you should do well on bass coming from classical guitar!

your points on tab are valid to say the least....i think learning rhythm is actually the most important part of standard notation for musical skill and this is what tab leaves out ...granted the newer tab style from Guitar World Mag addresses this...it's pretty cool

however, it's a fast food world ...i don't think you'll see tab decline in popularity!
 
I too just recently purchased this book. I had spent a decent amount of time searching the internet for bass books and this one looked promising. I read the reviews and it even further persuaded me to make the investment. My initial thought was: "HEY! I wanna be a SERIOUS bass player!" Found out it was only standard notation and it that made me think.. I thought that this must be serious! I know the concept of reading notation, have done it many times but never fluently. The purchasing of this book was based on three things:
1) If I learn how to better read sheet music, it was worth it.
2) The setup information in the beginning of the book is invaluable.
3) If I can walk away and be more confident in walking... take my money!

So I took the plunge and had the book ordered for me. First thing I did was read the back cover and the introduction pages. Found out that Joel Di Bartolo is quite the renowned bassist! The quotes from such professional people on the back page reassured me that this IS the book that every bassist should own. As it (roughly) states in the beginning... it is not something you work through in a few weeks... it needs to to sit by your side until it is so worn in that the pages have burn marks in them.

A true recommendation for any bass player.

On a further note; about the standard verse tab notation. I more recently began to become more and more inspired by the funk, disco and soul bass grooves. I can say that I almost always had a sense of funk to my style... but never really understood it or was able to replicate what I heard. From here, I invested into a book: "Mel Bay's Complete Funk Bass Book" with the CD. The first few exercises are in standard notation but the rest of the book is standard notation and tabs. Holy Moly! Just having the rhythm values available to me as opened up so much information for my brain on understanding grooves as they are written and intended to be played... Not just a guess that tabs leave. Being that a lot of the notes are 8th and 16th notes, combined with dead and full notes... it really does make so much more sense after just a day or two playing with it.

Reading music is not just a skill for the professionals in my eyes, anymore. It has become something that I should have truly invested my time into a very long time ago. I suppose no better time to start then the present, so my advice to all is to push yourself the extra half mile and make yourself a SERIOUS bassist. :hyper:
 
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A few minutes ago I received the best bass instruction book I have ever seen: "Serious Electric Bass: The Bass Player's Complete Guide to Scales and Chords," by the late Joel Di Bartolo. I was sad to learn that Maestro Di Bartolo recently passed away, but I am happy to dedicate my first Talk Bass thread to him.

I have only been playing bass for a few months, but have been a musician for 40 years -- classical guitar for 25+ and electric guitar ten years before that, trumpet and clarinet during my youth (among experimentation several other wind/brass instruments), piano classes during my undergraduate studies, and I have been playing Brazilian percussion for about a decade. However, I have fallen in love with the electric bass, and have begun (hopefully) a very long love affair.

Since I am once again a broke graduate student (this time science), I have to rely on my past skills and new instruction books (nothing replaces a real teacher, IMHO). So, I began a long, in-depth search for suitable bass methods, and luckily I found Talk Bass because there is so much great advice in every regard to the bass-playing world.

After reading several threads on Talk Bass and elsewhere about the bass instruction books available (and out of print), I developed criteria for selecting bass instruction books:

1. NO TAB notation!!!
2. Logical pedagogical routines that foster sight reading in bass clef, and hand position/movement studies
3. Scales, chords, and a variety patterns
4. The above must be usable for improvisation
5. The information and exercise routines must be presented and related to music theory
6. The information and exercise routines must be at a level that makes me think very hard
7. Information and exercise routines must have a universal quality, in that they not only work for the electric bass, but other bass clef instruments (to some degree)
8. NO TAB NOTATION!!!!

Okay, it may appear that I do not like tab notation -- Yes and no. I spent several years studying lute and vihuela tablature, and even did a little research on Spanish and German keyboard tablature. However, I view modern guitar tab notation to be a hinderance to musical literacy. I am not saying it does not have its place, nor am I criticizing its useful and practical aspects, especially if it leads to mastery of instrumental technique, and hopefully inspires a desire to learn standard notation. Lastly, if one enjoys reading tab notation, then please disregard my personal pet peeve.

My point is that the use of tab notation has grown to an absurd proportion in the printed literature in the past two decades, so much to the point (I believe) it fosters illiteracy (I am sure many here will find exceptions). In addition, since I have studied and played other instruments that required me to read standard notation, as well as understand and properly perform rhythm, I have been able to compare the results to my guitar playing, which I initially learned by ear and did not read (I learned tab on the guitar before reading music notation).

I can say from personal experience and countless observations, the majority of guitar players I have ever heard CANNOT play with good rhythm. Several years ago I concluded this after learning classical guitar and piano, and Brazilian percussion, the latter of which I initially learned by ear.

The tab vs. music notation debate, I believe, has already taken place in countless other threads, and I apologize for such a long explanation regarding my first criteria choice of NO TAB NOTATION!! :D

One last, economical point about tab notation: it takes up about half the space on a page, so one is getting less music for their money. Many bass books, once the tab is removed, are reduced to just a dozen or so pages. All one has to do is compare books by Carol Kaye, Bob Cranshaw, Ron Carter, Ray Brown, Rufus Reid, Ed Fuqua, Adriano Giffoni, and last but not least Roger Filiberto with tab notated books. The sheer volume of information available in Di Bartolo's book would require several volumes if it included tab.

I think "Patterns for Jazz" by Jerry Coker et al. is one of the best books available, and so is Wilson and Viola's "Chord Studies for the Trombone," which was also published more recently as a book for bass guitar, by Appleman and Viola (it includes bass guitar fingerings -- I have the 1968 edition for trombone, which I prefer because I want to create my own fingerings). The latter contains 144 pages of exercises, Coker's book has about 180 pages (versions in other clefs are available), and Di Bartolo's book has about 270 pages, most of which is music (the beginning discusses instrument set-up, etc.). However, if I were to recommend tab notation books, I would begin with Ed Friedland, Jeff Berlin, and the "Toque de Mestre Series" (in Portuguese, and probably only available in Brazil) (there are other good ones, so please forgive the omissions).

Lastly, I want to say how grateful I am to own Maestro Di Bartolo's book, "Serious Electric Bass." Please do yourself a favor and buy a copy for yourself, or another bass player, which would make a great Christmas or birthday present.

May this book never go out of print!!

... peace from New Orleans :cool:

PS. Rest in peace, Maestro Di Bartolo, and thank you very very much!!
IMO- Great Book.
 
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Im not a quick witted guy and I find this book to be great in its ideology but what I wouldn't give for a did demonstration of the excercises... Can anyone explain what I'm supposed to be doing on the Shifting Chapter... Page 55 I'm lost page 51 I could be lost but just don't know it...
 
I don't really understand the question. The instructions are pretty clear, between the fingering notation, there are also instructions on which strings are the notes, and the standard notation should be enough to understand which finger shifts to which other, playing which note on which string.
 
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I don't really understand the question. The instructions are pretty clear, between the fingering notation, there are also instructions on which strings are the notes, and the standard notation should be enough to understand which finger shifts to which other, playing which note on which string.

I'm asking if someone would be kind enough to descend to my low IQ aND demo the exercise on camera, maybe post a link. My phone replaced the word I typed: "dvd" with the word "did"*, making me seem even dumber.

To be more descriptive: I guess, I see open notes available to be played and no reference to a "O" fingering... In playing the staff I and a couple friends do not see clearly how to go about the shifting exercises somehow.
 
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Anybody else recommend this book?

I'm asking if someone would be kind enough to descend to my low IQ aND demo the exercise on camera, maybe post a link. My phone replaced the word I typed: "dvd" with the word "did"*, making me seem even dumber.

To be more descriptive: I guess, I see open notes available to be played and no reference to a "O" fingering... In playing the staff I and a couple friends do not see clearly how to go about the shifting exercises somehow.

Page 51
0 or open string is connected to where it is written on the stave

There are 5 ledger lines, if a G is noted between the top two lines that is your open G string

If G is noted as through the bottom ledger line that is E string 3rd fret.
 
Page 55

1st position is the open strings and frets 1-4
Each fret is allocated the same number for the corresponding finger

Assuming you are using a 4 string Bass tuned E A D G

How many options are there to play the note C?

The answer is 1, the 3rd fret of the A string.

How about Ab?

2, fret 4 of E string and fret 1 of the G string.
 
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0 or open string is connected to where it is written on the stave

There are 5 ledger lines, if a G is noted between the top two lines that is your open G string

If G is noted as through the bottom ledger line that is E string 3rd fret.

Oops I was thinking there is is a 5th fret G on the 2nd string (D string)