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Seriously??!!

#22
hrodbert696 said:
In general, my policy is that if you offer someone a gig, you've offered them the gig and you honor the offer. Even if they're a sub and in the meantime you found a permanent replacement - you tell the replacement, "These are the gigs we have booked, but we already have someone committed for this one gig so you won't be playing that."
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I would agree. Honorable, sensible and simple.
 
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hrodbert696 said:
Assuming the OP means he informed the friend back in October that he wouldn't be needed, a few days after first offering the gig to him, then I would say the friend was being unreasonable. He's had plenty of time to clear his calendar and find another gig. If he booked the friend back in October and only told him now that he's canceled for the December gig, I think the friend should be paid.

In general, my policy is that if you offer someone a gig, you've offered them the gig and you honor the offer. Even if they're a sub and in the meantime you found a permanent replacement - you tell the replacement, "These are the gigs we have booked, but we already have someone committed for this one gig so you won't be playing that."
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Feel kinda silly quoting myself, but a follow up - I used to be in two bands. One was booked for a wedding on a night the other already had a gig booked. So I told them I couldn't play the wedding and they would have to get a sub. They got their old bass player to come in and cover for me. As it happened, the other band's gig that night got canceled. I told the band with the wedding that I was free, just so that they would know, but they had committed to the sub and that was fine. After THAT, as it happened, the band whose gig had been canceled had another gig, a fill-in, drop in their laps, so all of a sudden I had a gig that night again. Then, literally as we were packing up cars to go to the gig, the guitarist's dog got hit by a car, he had to cancel, and we canceled the gig.

Meanwhile the other band played the wedding, with their old bass player. A couple of weeks later they told me that it had felt comfortable, like putting an old shoe on, so they decided to have him back full-time and I was fired.

Moral of the story? I have no idea. But I still feel that it was right to honor the commitment to the sub, even if it didn't work out so well for me.
 
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hrodbert696 said:
Feel kinda silly quoting myself, but a follow up - I used to be in two bands. One was booked for a wedding on a night the other already had a gig booked. So I told them I couldn't play the wedding and they would have to get a sub. They got their old bass player to come in and cover for me. As it happened, the other band's gig that night got canceled. I told the band with the wedding that I was free, just so that they would know, but they had committed to the sub and that was fine. After THAT, as it happened, the band whose gig had been canceled had another gig, a fill-in, drop in their laps, so all of a sudden I had a gig that night again. Then, literally as we were packing up cars to go to the gig, the guitarist's dog got hit by a car, he had to cancel, and we canceled the gig.

Meanwhile the other band played the wedding, with their old bass player. A couple of weeks later they told me that it had felt comfortable, like putting an old shoe on, so they decided to have him back full-time and I was fired.

Moral of the story? I have no idea. But I still feel that it was right to honor the commitment to the sub, even if it didn't work out so well for me.
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oh noh!!!... we'll that's painful....i think they acted unprofessionally to just booth you out coz the old bass came back....look at the bright side, at least you knew early that they never wanna keep you anyway...hope you got a new band now..... :)
 
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[QUOTE="In general, my policy is that if you offer someone a gig, you've offered them the gig and you honor the offer. Even if they're a sub and in the meantime you found a permanent replacement - you tell the replacement, "These are the gigs we have booked, but we already have someone committed for this one gig so you won't be playing that."[/QUOTE]

I agree on this one...just to have peace on both sides...
 
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#27
It doesn't seem reasonable that you should pay him, he was given plenty of notice, and if his schedule is that full, he should not have a problem filling the date. I probably would have said grats on getting a drummer, instead of asking you for money.
 
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BassFishingInAmerica said:
I'm just guessing the pay would be $500 or less per person (I may be wrong, but that would be decent pay if you're a club band). So, for a couple hundred bucks he's willing to kill any friendship you have? Nice guy.
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Not even close....hahaha....agree...that's why I couldn't believe it....I would never ever do that to a friend or even to anyone else... Nevah!!
 
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#33
2 months notice? Hell-to-tha-no! Friend or not, why would you pay him for that? Even if he learned a few songs by then it doesnt matter. Its the risk you run when you are a fill in. If the venue cancels your gig (average bar gig) 2 months ahead of time would you expect payment? Some here on TB would, cuz you know, its the honorable thing to do.
 
#38
What level of the game is this at? If ya'll are professionals and are cutting a significant portion of your living at it; than yeah maybe throw him some money because he blocked the date. If it's amateur weekend warrior type stuff I think a simple "Sorry Bro," should suffice.
 
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christianbassguitar said:
I did...but then he told me that if there are gig offers who pay more than what we get, he'll get that than playing with us....so I've decided to ask someone else...
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Sounds like you were reasonable it comes down to how difficult is it to find drummers in your area? if it's a problem finding them then pay him to keep that bridge open because you never know what opportunity you might miss because you didn't have a drummer.
 
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SirMjac28 said:
Sounds like you were reasonable it comes down to how difficult is it to find drummers in your area? if it's a problem finding them then pay him to keep that bridge open because you never know what opportunity you might miss because you didn't have a drummer.
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In my area (Toronto), drummers are everywhere. I have a few pals who play, and just asked him coz I though about giving him some gig nights....
 
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