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SG & EB Bass Club

No matter whether I can play them anymore I still can see what I like and I like those 2 quite a bit. Is the finish a custom addition or is it offered? I like them very much.
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Bob

These were a special run of 400 basses each in 2008 during Gibsons Guitar of the week series. They made the blonde SG Supreme for one week in 2008, a Lava Burst on a different week, and two different Money basses, one blue and one blonde on two other weeks. I think the other 48 weeks had Guitar special releases. Here's a good link that gives more detail...
Guitar of the Week
Note: some refer to the lava burst as fire burst, I don't know which is the correct term, so I just use lava I think it sounds better.
 
Hey guys!

I'm suffering for major GAS for a EB bass. And while I can't afford a Gibson SG, I thought I could have some fun with an Epiphone EB0. Having heard some reviews about it, it doesn't sound bad at all.

Do you think a pickup upgrade for a Guild BS1 would require major mods? I'm not sure about the dimensions of the original pickup over this one, but the Guild specs are these:

Dimensions (including bezel): length – 99mm; width – 73.5mm
Alnico 2 magnet, 6.40K resistance

I'm concerned about string distance and pickup size, mainly.

Thank you!
 
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The reissue guild bisonic is just barely too big to drop in on the epi eb0 (Mines a 2003). I had to chisel a few mm off each side. Also might have to shave a bit off bridge side of cavity depending on which direction you want it (I dont think it changes sound just look). I didn't use riser and just moved the pole pieces up a bit. Had to cut a small mount off pickguard too.

I love the sound and the look. Can't exactly say how sound changed as had also done strings and other stuff and forgot to record myself first. But felt like sound was more full and less microphonic but could just be imagination. Just bedroom player so can't say how it fits in a mix but I think it sounds great.
 
Thank you so much, that's really helpful! Looks awesome ;)

It was my first non reversible mod. In the sense that had to remove some wood vs just swapping bridge. I believe I could still put old pickup back and cover would hide it but it would be close. Wiring was simple.

Since then I've also replaced tone knob (didnt do much) with a 12 way varitone (gets about 4 distinct sounds out of it). Added a surface mount middle pickup (victory goldfoil - unexpectedly sounds almost same as bisonic [which I love] but was thinking it would sound more different due to designs). Want to replace the victory with a novak bass gold foil in hopes it can be scooted farther back towards bridge than victory. And need to add a 3 way switch for pickups (currently victory not connected as I removed 3 way switch, that had replaced tone knob, to add varitone).

Me dorking a while back on her with tapewounds (helps reduce roundwound clang to me). Both pickups on. No tone knob. Pre varitone.

Now have low tension flats but haven't recorded myself.
 
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Trying different strings always good. The dimarzio model 1 does drop right in. But I liked the bisonic black and chrome vs all black dimarzio.

The eb0 got me back into playing. Discovered I just needed a shorty. Love its neck. Bit of neck dive but wide strap helps or one day I will swap for lighter tuners.

I also like the guild jr jet but it wasn't around locally when I got my eb0 used. Only thing else was mikros and broncos. Want to try a Ibanez tmb30. Have lots of cheap pickups I need a test bass to mess with.

Need something else to mod since my eb0 almost done. :)

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So I went to the shop and tried the Epiphone EB0, for the price it was so fun to play, I ended up bringing it home. After some time playing with it, I'll definitely put on some flatwounds and probably upgrade the pots sometime in the future. The volume goes from zero directly to max.
Other than that, the intonation was pretty good, everything feels solid, and the most important thing, it's so fun to play.
Here's a video of a never-ending pentatonic, I was just messing around with the bass for the first time.



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It was my first non reversible mod. In the sense that had to remove some wood vs just swapping bridge. I believe I could still put old pickup back and cover would hide it but it would be close. Wiring was simple.

Since then I've also replaced tone knob (didnt do much) with a 12 way varitone (gets about 4 distinct sounds out of it). Added a surface mount middle pickup (victory goldfoil - unexpectedly sounds almost same as bisonic [which I love] but was thinking it would sound more different due to designs). Want to replace the victory with a novak bass gold foil in hopes it can be scooted farther back towards bridge than victory. And need to add a 3 way switch for pickups (currently victory not connected as I removed 3 way switch, that had replaced tone knob, to add varitone).

Me dorking a while back on her with tapewounds (helps reduce roundwound clang to me). Both pickups on. No tone knob. Pre varitone.

Now have low tension flats but haven't recorded myself.

Good 60s tone! The tone on the first bit kinda reminded me of 8 Miles High. When I switched to that song though (via YouTube, so not sure if it's the original tone), the tone was different. Still, it reminded me of it somehow
 
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So I went to the shop and tried the Epiphone EB0, for the price it was so fun to play, I ended up bringing it home. After some time playing with it, I'll definitely put on some flatwounds and probably upgrade the pots sometime in the future. The volume goes from zero directly to max.
Other than that, the intonation was pretty good, everything feels solid, and the most important thing, it's so fun to play.
Here's a video of a never-ending pentatonic, I was just messing around with the bass for the first time.



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I like it
 
Good 60s tone!

One day I need to record myself with my eb0 strung with low tension flats (as it is now), tapes (above) and dead rounds (came on the eb0). And switch between my vox vx50ba (what I usually use at home) vs a few settings I really like on the fender studio40 (not as easy to lug out of closet even though light). Also play my jetsons with ltfs through each amp.

So could at least hear both with flats through each amp to see how amp and basses change tone. Then on eb0 what flavor tapes vs ltfs do. And how much is me always sounding like me.

Got 2 basses with plan for jetsons to let me play more with strings but I like the low tension flats too much I stopped and put them on my eb0 too. Still of strings I haven't tried or even brands but that tone chase is costly (can add up to be more than pickup changes).
 
Hello Gibson SG/EBx nerds!

There's an intriguing deal near me and I thought I'd ask in here for advice. I'll paste the description (edited for brevity) and the included pictures.

PASTE: I have a 1971 Gibson EBO bass with case and Derek Trucks guitar stand from the first Tedeschi Trucks tour until trashed for lack of neck protection in Charlotte NC.

The bass has fresh frets and sanded neck. Successful truss rod tweak. All of the dots are still visible though 1 has been sanded into slightly.

I have the original damaged bridge and a new Hip Shot bridge installed with new Rotosound flat wound strings. Set for live performances. No fret buzz.

I need $1000 for both to move into a new location or I would not sell. Does come with strap.

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I didn't bother with the pictures of the stand but he seems to think it has some monetary value, which I disagree with. Bass alone, do you think this is worth a look? It's about 20 miles out of town but I have spare time and cash these days.

Thanks for any thoughts!
 
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Hello Gibson SG/EBx nerds!

There's an intriguing deal near me and I thought I'd ask in here for advice. I'll paste the description (edited for brevity) and the included pictures.

PASTE: I have a 1971 Gibson EBO bass with case and Derek Trucks guitar stand from the first Tedeschi Trucks tour until trashed for lack of neck protection in Charlotte NC.

The bass has fresh frets and sanded neck. Successful truss rod tweak. All of the dots are still visible though 1 has been sanded into slightly.

I have the original damaged bridge and a new Hip Shot bridge installed with new Rotosound flat wound strings. Set for live performances. No fret buzz.

I need $1000 for both to move into a new location or I would not sell. Does come with strap.

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I didn't bother with the pictures of the stand but he seems to think it has some monetary value, which I disagree with. Bass alone, do you think this is worth a look? It's about 20 miles out of town but I have spare time and cash these days.

Thanks for any thoughts!
For a 40 mile round trip, it's worth a drive. The Hipshot's a nice mod. I like the "walnut" finish.
 
Hello Gibson SG/EBx nerds!

There's an intriguing deal near me and I thought I'd ask in here for advice. I'll paste the description (edited for brevity) and the included pictures.

PASTE: I have a 1971 Gibson EBO bass with case and Derek Trucks guitar stand from the first Tedeschi Trucks tour until trashed for lack of neck protection in Charlotte NC.

The bass has fresh frets and sanded neck. Successful truss rod tweak. All of the dots are still visible though 1 has been sanded into slightly.

I have the original damaged bridge and a new Hip Shot bridge installed with new Rotosound flat wound strings. Set for live performances. No fret buzz.

I need $1000 for both to move into a new location or I would not sell. Does come with strap.

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I didn't bother with the pictures of the stand but he seems to think it has some monetary value, which I disagree with. Bass alone, do you think this is worth a look? It's about 20 miles out of town but I have spare time and cash these days.

Thanks for any thoughts!
You won't know unless you take it for a test drive. If nothing else, they are not terribly common.
Might not get to play one again without having it shipped in
 
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Hello Gibson SG/EBx nerds!

There's an intriguing deal near me and I thought I'd ask in here for advice. I'll paste the description (edited for brevity) and the included pictures.

PASTE: I have a 1971 Gibson EBO bass with case and Derek Trucks guitar stand from the first Tedeschi Trucks tour until trashed for lack of neck protection in Charlotte NC.

The bass has fresh frets and sanded neck. Successful truss rod tweak. All of the dots are still visible though 1 has been sanded into slightly.

I have the original damaged bridge and a new Hip Shot bridge installed with new Rotosound flat wound strings. Set for live performances. No fret buzz.

I need $1000 for both to move into a new location or I would not sell. Does come with strap.

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END PASTE.

I didn't bother with the pictures of the stand but he seems to think it has some monetary value, which I disagree with. Bass alone, do you think this is worth a look? It's about 20 miles out of town but I have spare time and cash these days.

Thanks for any thoughts!

I own two Epi's, a tbird and eb0 modded like a Gibby SG with two pups.
I love my Epi's but I've never loved Gibby's enough to pay $1000 plus.

People that do seem to see the worth though,
and maybe if I had one I would too.

But I wouldn't do it since Epi's suit me just fine,
and because I'm too cheap.....057912
 
Hello Gibson SG/EBx nerds!

There's an intriguing deal near me and I thought I'd ask in here for advice. I'll paste the description (edited for brevity) and the included pictures.

PASTE: I have a 1971 Gibson EBO bass with case and Derek Trucks guitar stand from the first Tedeschi Trucks tour until trashed for lack of neck protection in Charlotte NC.

The bass has fresh frets and sanded neck. Successful truss rod tweak. All of the dots are still visible though 1 has been sanded into slightly.

I have the original damaged bridge and a new Hip Shot bridge installed with new Rotosound flat wound strings. Set for live performances. No fret buzz.

I need $1000 for both to move into a new location or I would not sell. Does come with strap.


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I didn't bother with the pictures of the stand but he seems to think it has some monetary value, which I disagree with. Bass alone, do you think this is worth a look? It's about 20 miles out of town but I have spare time and cash these days.

Thanks for any thoughts!

$1k seems a bit steep unless it's in original condition and purchased for vintage value. OTOH, you may find that it is the tone that you've always looked for, so it might be a bargain. Personally, I prefer two pickup basses. I found my '68 EB-3 for about $800 in trashed condition, which was fine with me because I had modification plans for it. I might still move further along the road and install Alembic pickups and electronics, just for fun.
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Hello Gibson SG/EBx nerds!

There's an intriguing deal near me and I thought I'd ask in here for advice. I'll paste the description (edited for brevity) and the included pictures.

PASTE: I have a 1971 Gibson EBO bass with case and Derek Trucks guitar stand from the first Tedeschi Trucks tour until trashed for lack of neck protection in Charlotte NC.

The bass has fresh frets and sanded neck. Successful truss rod tweak. All of the dots are still visible though 1 has been sanded into slightly.

I have the original damaged bridge and a new Hip Shot bridge installed with new Rotosound flat wound strings. Set for live performances. No fret buzz.

I need $1000 for both to move into a new location or I would not sell. Does come with strap.

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I didn't bother with the pictures of the stand but he seems to think it has some monetary value, which I disagree with. Bass alone, do you think this is worth a look? It's about 20 miles out of town but I have spare time and cash these days.

Thanks for any thoughts!
I'm no vintage expert (believe me!), so take the following with that in mind.

My thoughts — if it's calling to you, listen. If it's not calling you enough to take a drive, let it pass with no regrets.

Meanwhile, unless you're a Tedeschi-Trucks superfan, the guitar stand only has value as a used guitar stand (i.e., not much value). Clearly the seller thinks the stand's heritage is important, but that's his personal issue. If you need a guitar stand and you like this one, sure, take it, but otherwise, I'd just take it out of the equation. Same goes for whatever nasty used strap goes along with it. Even if it costs me more in the end to replace the stand and strap, I'd rather get ones I want and meanwhile get below the psychological $1,000 barrier for the bass. I'd tell the guy right off the bat to keep the stand and strap and offer $950 (or less if you're a hard bargainer type).

Regarding the headstock repair, due to that alone, this will never be a major investment-grade purchase. It may well hold value or even go up somewhat (or lose value, especially accounting for inflation), but it's never going to suddenly be worth a ton of money. So, basically you'd be buying it as a player and for its looks and genuine early 70s heritage. A real old bass of classic design that's been around (seemed from the ad that it was played on a Tedeschi-Trucks tour, too, though that could be read as just applying to the stand). I mean, it doesn't really matter if it was played on whatever relatively minor tour, but it could add a little to the overall coolness for you if you're into that. Doesn't really add monetary value, but just knowing part of the backstory could be part of the overall mojo feeling the old bass may or may not give you.

If you didn't know, headstock repairs are generally very effective and the repaired part is probably stronger than the rest of the bass. As a player, no need to concern yourself with that (assuming it was done well).

One thing to note is that on those early 70s basses, the pickup was moved back from the neck somewhat in an attempt to get away from the overpoweringly bassy tone of the earlier EB-0s with the pickup right up against the end of the fretboard. Could be good or bad, depending on what you're going for. Seems to me it would be good, especially for a bass with only one pickup, but then again, I've never played one so I'm hardly the guy to speak on it! I believe off the top of my head that the value of the 60s ones with the pickup against the fretboard is higher, but that's basically true of all guitar/bass equipment in general (a 60s Fender amp is going to be worth more than a 70s, especially if there's some visible difference such as in the case of blackface amps vs. early silverface amps — even when the internals and sound are exactly the same!).

So, to wrap it up, if it intrigues you, if it were me, I'd get back to the guy and say you're interested in the bass but not the stand or strap and would he be willing to take $950 (or $900 or whatever), and if so you'd like to drive over and check it out. Then, if that's all set, take a drive and enjoy the day regardless of whether you buy the bass or not - at the least, it'll be a chance to take a drive and get to check out an interesting old bass. Then play it and if you like the neck and sound and other aspects and it's calling to you, get it. If not, no worries.

Anyway, something like that - if taking the drive would be a big pain to you, negotiate some basics before going to check it out. If the drive and checking out the bass sounds like fun in and of itself, then maybe go do it and negotiate in person if you turn out to be interested. Basically, use whatever negotiating style works best for you and suits how much you need/want this particular instrument.

My long-winded 2 cents! :laugh:
 
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