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Sharing the new band's set list

Are you looking to do a 4-hour gig? If so, I don't believe you have enough songs in your sets. (Unless you're taking longer then the record lead breaks). My band plays three sets of 16 songs each to make the 4-hours. If you string them together in true "DJ keep 'em dancing form" you'll need even more.

One thing you have to watch out for. If the crowd is up dancing the whole time they're not buying drinks. Management may frown on this. (There was a thread about this where a band didn't get re-booked because of this situation). It might behoove you to insert a slower tempo tune in the middle of each set for people to catch their breath and to refill their beverages.
 
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So how are you getting the tone for "Figure it out"?

I've posted the setup over in the effects forum. The relevant bits of it are to use a MicroPOG to split a dry signal from an octave-up signal. The dry signal goes through one pedal board to a bass amp, and for that tune I'm using a Darkglass B3K on it. The octave signal goes to a board with a SUF Civil War fuzz and then to a guitar amp. There's also an EHX Pitchfork to kick it up an additional octave for the solo at the end. Mute switches on each line to control what's active and what's not. There's some additional voodoo with compressors and an LPF too.

My cover band did a few on that list and they went over well. The middle and American girl didn't work and we dropped them. Are you gonna be my girl is a cool tune but at certain points the beat changes a little. People would stop and kinda look around. The beat has to be consistent any it would be a bonus if you can seque a few to keep people moving. I have a friend who's a hired gun for too bands. His advice is people want to be hit over the head with the same thing over and over and over and over again. My band took that advice and we shot right to the top getting some awesome gigs. I didn't care for most of the music, but the gigs were awesome.

Great advice! Yeah, we'll see what goes over, of course. I have my doubts about American Girl. This is a project I didn't want to let stew too long, but get it together and gigging and make adjustments based on experience. American Girl was one the guitarist already knew so we added it. Petty is popular around here, so it may work, if not it goes. We'll see About Are You Gonna Be My Girl - the drummer has had some trouble with the transitions, but he's starting to get it.

I hear you about not caring for the music but getting awesome gigs. Awesome gigs are the goal here. I was playing at a party with a former band, and we went into Summer of 69, which is a tune I HATE, always did, and everyone got up and danced and had a great time, and then it hit me - I was enjoying the gig. Every song doesn't have to be my personal favorite. I can enjoy playing that stupid Bryan Adams song if it means I'm helping people enjoy themselves. So that's been a guiding principle.

Wait. No Mustang Sally?

Ha ha. Well, actually, we have a list just started of what I'm calling the "back pocket" songs. We're not going to plan them in the set list but I want the group to be able to pull them off if they get requested, which they often do. Sally's one of them, also Summer of 69 and Sweet Home Alabama and probably Keep Your Hands to Yourself, maybe some others like Brown Eyed Girl and, given all the Sox fans around here, Sweet Caroline.

Good luck with the new band.
I have made the switch to a New Country band.
First gig went well.

Hey excellent! Congratulations.

Are you looking to do a 4-hour gig? If so, I don't believe you have enough songs in your sets. (Unless you're taking longer then the record lead breaks). My band plays three sets of 16 songs each to make the 4-hours. If you string them together in true "DJ keep 'em dancing form" you'll need even more.

One thing you have to watch out for. If the crowd is up dancing the whole time they're not buying drinks. Management may frown on this. (There was a thread about this where a band didn't get re-booked because of this situation). It might behoove you to insert a slower tempo tune in the middle of each set for people to catch their breath and to refill their beverages.

Yeah, we'll keep an eye on length. Longest gigs I see around here are 9-1, often just 9-12:30, three hour-long sets with 20-minute breaks will do it more or less. We've got about six weeks before the first gig booked (and unlikely to have one drop in our lap sooner than that), so we'll take some rehearsals to run through everything and time it out, and there's time to add more as needed. One of my prior bands would go in with 14-15 song sets and end up cutting a few tunes from the final set because the bar was closing. Of course that group had too much dead air between songs, so we'll see. We can always do a twenty-minute jam on Wild Thing if we have to kill time. :D

That's a good point about buying drinks. Myself, if I'm dancing and getting thirsty, I'll sit a song out and go get a drink. I never felt I needed the band or a DJ to build a pause in for me to do it. That may just be a matter of chatting up management and seeing what they want. Or planning some banter pauses or slower tunes, we'll see. Good thought.
 
You're probably aware of this, but not everyone is. It bears repeating anyway. The little non-musical things that you do on stage matter. Find out what the drink specials are and once per set, let the audience know. Your band's gig is an investment that the bar owner makes in order to increase sales that night. Selling a few drinks from the stage also shows management that you care about the bar's bottom line and that you understand why you are there. Plus, a crowd with a few drinks in them will loosen up and dance more. And kindly remind your audience to tip their servers, too. This simple reminder can go a long way towards getting future gigs. Steady bar staff have a lot of pull with management when it comes to return bookings.
 
Thanks for sharing. I like your list. Very surprised to see "Can't you see," there. Great tune. If you get tired of that song you can swap in "Tuesday's Gone" or "Amy" or pick an Eagles tune. Hard to beat an Eagles tune. I'd suggest "Already Gone." For new songs "S.O.B" by Nathaniel Rateliff might be something to consider. But, hey these are just suggestions, your sets look good as is. Keep the groove.
 
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I've posted the setup over in the effects forum. The relevant bits of it are to use a MicroPOG to split a dry signal from an octave-up signal. The dry signal goes through one pedal board to a bass amp, and for that tune I'm using a Darkglass B3K on it. The octave signal goes to a board with a SUF Civil War fuzz and then to a guitar amp. There's also an EHX Pitchfork to kick it up an additional octave for the solo at the end. Mute switches on each line to control what's active and what's not. There's some additional voodoo with compressors and an LPF too.

Cool. I've played around a little running the effect out (upper octave) of my Akai Unibass into a guitar amp and/or a cheapo Behringer GDI21 amp sim/DI pedal. Probably won't be doing any Royal Blood any time soon though.;)
 
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You're probably aware of this, but not everyone is. It bears repeating anyway. The little non-musical things that you do on stage matter. Find out what the drink specials are and once per set, let the audience know. Your band's gig is an investment that the bar owner makes in order to increase sales that night. Selling a few drinks from the stage also shows management that you care about the bar's bottom line and that you understand why you are there. Plus, a crowd with a few drinks in them will loosen up and dance more. And kindly remind your audience to tip their servers, too. This simple reminder can go a long way towards getting future gigs. Steady bar staff have a lot of pull with management when it comes to return bookings.

You know, I spent the better part of the 80's playing Metal covers in bars and just recently (2 years ago) have gotten back into it but in all the years combined, this never even occurred to me/us! Thank you Sgt. Rock for the suggestion
and I say that will all sincerity, just never dawned on me. We went about the business of playing/performing but this makes perfect sense and will certainly be something I will suggest to the band that we do going forward.
 
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In all honesty, your set list is too predictable. Pretty much what most cover bands are playing. If you are playing the same songs as other cover bands, there is no reason for people to want to see instead of another band. You should strive to be different while still playing songs that people know. The examples I usually use when talking to people about cover bands are if you do Aerosmith, don't play "Walk This Way" or "Sweet Emotion". Play "Rats In The Cellar" or "Last Child". If you do Lynyrd Skynyrd, don't play "Sweet Home Alabama" or "Freebird". Play "That Smell" or "What's Your Name".
I know these songs are not on your list but you get the idea.
 
In all honesty, your set list is too predictable. Pretty much what most cover bands are playing. If you are playing the same songs as other cover bands, there is no reason for people to want to see instead of another band. You should strive to be different while still playing songs that people know. The examples I usually use when talking to people about cover bands are if you do Aerosmith, don't play "Walk This Way" or "Sweet Emotion". Play "Rats In The Cellar" or "Last Child". If you do Lynyrd Skynyrd, don't play "Sweet Home Alabama" or "Freebird". Play "That Smell" or "What's Your Name".
I know these songs are not on your list but you get the idea.

I get the principle, but I don't entirely agree. We have predictable tunes like Jenny, sure. I don't think a whole lot of bands are playing Feet Don't Fail Me Now and Chelsea Dagger; the list is aiming to have a few surprises as well as the familiar. Of all Pink tunes that female-fronted bands play, I don't think Funhouse is the first one people would think of. And I've been in bands that went for the deeper cuts, in fact I've been the king of nominating obscure songs in past bands, and really they don't often go over all that well. For instance, one of my prior bands played Toys In the Attic for its Aerosmith tune. No crowd at any gig we played gave a damn. A true-blue Aerosmith fan would be thrilled to hear the tunes you're mentioning, but honestly I don't even recognize them (I do recognize the Skynyrd tunes you suggested, though, they would work).
 
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I get the principle, but I don't entirely agree. We have predictable tunes like Jenny, sure. I don't think a whole lot of bands are playing Feet Don't Fail Me Now and Chelsea Dagger; the list is aiming to have a few surprises as well as the familiar. Of all Pink tunes that female-fronted bands play, I don't think Funhouse is the first one people would think of. And I've been in bands that went for the deeper cuts, in fact I've been the king of nominating obscure songs in past bands, and really they don't often go over all that well. For instance, one of my prior bands played Toys In the Attic for its Aerosmith tune. No crowd at any gig we played gave a damn. A true-blue Aerosmith fan would be thrilled to hear the tunes you're mentioning, but honestly I don't even recognize them (I do recognize the Skynyrd tunes you suggested, though, they would work).

I have actually seen about 90% of your setlist being played by cover bands. Including "Funhouse", "Feet Don't Fail Me Now"
 
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Funhouse is a great, bouncy tune. The first time I heard it, I thought "This would be really fun to cover." Good pick.

I do think you have to have some predictability in your sets. If a band is covering 80's rock, they need to play "Jenny", "Jessie's girl", or something along those lines, no matter how much we as musicians are sick of those tunes. Audiences have expectations. A great way to handle this is to put together a little medley. That way you cover your bases, and no one (in the band or the crowd) loses interest after the first chorus.

One of my other instruments is the Highland Bagpipe. Do I look forward to playing "Amazing Grace" for the 10,000th time? What do you think?
 
People want to hear predictable music or as I would like to call it, songs that people know. And you could have two cover bands doing exactly the same set list in the same order and it would be different depending on the dynamic of the players and how good they were. At the end of the day, a cover band gets hired to play music that people want to hear.
 
As one of the most over-played songs ever, it still gets people of all ages out on the dance floor, the dance floor can be empty, and start up MS and people scream and run to the dance floor.
I've never played, but there does seem to be a level of hostility toward it. It doesn't fit the style we typically play, but we have our own overplayed standards that we hate but work.
 
Fair enough. We'll see how gigs work and make adjustments. Thanks for the input.

Don't get me wrong. The songs go over well. My point is that you should try to be a little different than most cover bands otherwise people have to no reason to go see you.
 
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Don't get me wrong. The songs go over well. My point is that you should try to be a little different than most cover bands otherwise people have to no reason to go see you.

I'll second this! We do a lot of well known songs other bands don't play and people seem to like it. Just as, if not more important, the bar staff loves to hear different songs instead of the same stuff week after week. We always get compliments at the end of the night from the staff about our diversity.

Just for example, we play songs like:

Do You Know What I Mean - Lee Michaels

Burnin' For You - Blue Oyster Cult

Trouble No More - Allman Brothers

I'm Your Captain, (Closer To Home) - Grand Funk

The Story In Your Eyes - Moody Blues

We Ain't Got Nuthin' Yet - The Blues Magoos

Draggin' The Line - Tommy James

Handle With Care - The Traveling Wilburys

Things We Said Today - The Beatles
 
I'll second this! We do a lot of well known songs other bands don't play and people seem to like it. Just as, if not more important, the bar staff loves to hear different songs instead of the same stuff week after week. We always get compliments at the end of the night from the staff about our diversity.

Just for example, we play songs like:

Do You Know What I Mean - Lee Michaels

Burnin' For You - Blue Oyster Cult

Trouble No More - Allman Brothers

I'm Your Captain, (Closer To Home) - Grand Funk

The Story In Your Eyes - Moody Blues

We Ain't Got Nuthin' Yet - The Blues Magoos

Draggin' The Line - Tommy James

Handle With Care - The Traveling Wilburys

Things We Said Today - The Beatles

That's way more of a classic rock list than this group is aiming for. Like I say, as we develop we'll add more classics, so some of these might make it in.