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Shocker! Warrior Adam Nitti Signature!

#62
I seriously miss my Warrior Standard Plus 5 that I sold way back when I got my first MTD. I saw it a year or so ago pop up on ebay, but it didn't look like a legit sale so I passed on it. That was the one bass that I regret selling most. It was just that good. It was mahogany body, maple/purpleheart neck, quilt top, natural color. MM/J pickups.
 
#64
Wilbyman said:
Those XJ series pickups are great...I have experience with the regular XJ's and the Bart "Classic" XJ's. Both are good but the Classic's have a really nice low mid without being too dark. I wish more builders used these pickups.

Will
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Exactly!! Yeah, that's right... I think some of the Bart stuff kinda' lacks a bit in the high end unless it's a custom. Even tho the Barts in my Roscoe were custom, IMHO, they still lacked in the high end... like a lot of people say in general about Barts. These do NOT do that.
 
#65
Ok, general question time... why don't these basses get more LUV here at TB? Seems like, except for MAYBE some of the dual soap stuff (tho again Adam made that one sound awesome), at least the X/X and X/MM configs seem to kick some serious butt.

I'd think the only reason for anyone to not dig them is the fact that they use a lesser typical "D" neck profile. I think most necks are "C" profiles. I'd think they could do it either way, but then you risk tone if the extra meat to the neck is part of that, which it could well be.

Other than that, I can't really find anything about this bass that would be polarizing enough to make them love/hate.

Anybody have any thoughts? Are they just considered too pricey even for what they are (noting their new price is pretty well up there)?

I've have read in the past that they're more visually than musically impressive, but at least with this bass, I have to strongly disagree.
 
#66
Vic said:
Exactly!! Yeah, that's right... I think some of the Bart stuff kinda' lacks a bit in the high end unless it's a custom. Even tho the Barts in my Roscoe were custom, IMHO, they still lacked in the high end... like a lot of people say in general about Barts. These do NOT do that.
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Yeah! Though it should be noted that you can get the Classic pickups (dual coils though) in a Roscoe for no extra loot.

I also think the XJ's look alot better than a regular jazz pickup in exotic basses...those jazz bass pickup "ears" don't fit a modern looking bass to me.

I know Brian Ristola builds quite a few basses with the XJ pickups.

Anyway, back on topic and nice score Vic!

Will
 
#67
Vic said:
Ok, general question time... why don't these basses get more LUV here at TB? Seems like, except for MAYBE some of the dual soap stuff (tho again Adam made that one sound awesome), at least the X/X and X/MM configs seem to kick some serious butt.

I'd think the only reason for anyone to not dig them is the fact that they use a lesser typical "D" neck profile. I think most necks are "C" profiles. I'd think they could do it either way, but then you risk tone if the extra meat to the neck is part of that, which it could well be.

Other than that, I can't really find anything about this bass that would be polarizing enough to make them love/hate.

Anybody have any thoughts? Are they just considered too price (noting their new price is pretty well up there)?
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Quality control and they are extremely expensive. I have a friend (who posts here sometimes) have some bad experience with Warrior and several bassed he owned from them. I also have another friend (who posts here more often) that had a close relationship with Warrior but is now distancing himself.

One of the bassists I know locally, he plays for a very good Christian band owns several Warriors including ones with the crazy inlays on the neck -- they have got to be some of the most expense Warriors out there -- loves them and he sounds great.

Out of the three I have owned, one of them had some flaws that I would consider minor. Two were decent -- granted they were pretty much entry level for warrior, and one was just ridiculous and I wish I still had it.
 
#68
rumbler said:
Vic!

Every time you talk about and or show off your warrior you make me get so anxious on getting one!!!

Anyone want to come to Toronto to help me rob a few banks? we could then buy some custom basses...:cool:

Andrew
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Sorry dude, but here's the good news...

If my little discovery generates a flurry of traffic on the brand then that eventually means more on the used market as well, which is good for folks on budgets, so maybe a little patience. I know that doesn't do crap for GAS pains :) but maybe it's a bit of hope anyway. :)
 
#69
I know there were a lot of QC stories that floated around for a while. That may be why they don't get as much love.

I am VERY picky about my basses, and necks in particular. The neck was quite a change for me as far as shape, but it feels so natural now. When I grab my jazz, it feels tiny. I have the action extremely low on mine with no buzz. I love the spokewheel truss rod at the end of the fretboard. It is so easy to make small adjustments on the fly.

Every time someone plays mine, they are blown away. It plays and sounds fantastic.
 
#71
GrooveWarrior said:
I know there were a lot of QC stories that floated around for a while. That may be why they don't get as much love.

I am VERY picky about my basses, and necks in particular. The neck was quite a change for me as far as shape, but it feels so natural now. When I grab my jazz, it feels tiny. I have the action extremely low on mine with no buzz. I love the spokewheel truss rod at the end of the fretboard. It is so easy to make small adjustments on the fly.

Every time someone plays mine, they are blown away. It plays and sounds fantastic.
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Yeah, I'm pretty persnickety as well, and the same thing is happening here when folks check mine out... I guess when they get it right, they totally nail it. Hopefully that's most often these days.

on a side note, mine isn't a spoke wheel... it's the more typical allen key.

Same for me on the neck profile too... initially, it felt a bit odd, but now it's no big deal.
 
#73
Vic said:
Ok, that would be a big one. I wonder if, like, for example, Fender USA, that was just a period they went through, or do you know if they're still getting hits for that?
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[Edit] I don't want to generalize as my experience is with a limited population of instruments and players. However, any story can get one thinking when we are talking about that much $$. These are seriously expense instruments, easily over 4k from what I recall.
 
#74
#75
In response to Vic's question...
Besides the QC stories that went around (I have played a couple myself which I felt were less than awesome in that category), I think its a question of aesthetics, neck profile, cost and to a lesser extent the religious ties.

Aesthetically, I always think of them as a weird combination of an MTD and Skjold, but not in a good way.

They seem to cost as much or more than several highend makers but without the reputation, which of course can be a chicken and the egg thing.

Its a pet peeve, but I really despise the looks of the basses with the MM/J due to how much wider the J is than the MM.

And while I definitely will not discount anybody's choice of faith and how they choose to pursue it, seeing the Jesus Crown of Thorns Guitar was definitely a little off putting. But of course there are plenty of players out there who that would appeal too, so I think they still have a decent enough market size.

Also, I don't dig on the name, and I doubt I am alone on that.


That said, your's looks awesome and is obviously well made and pleasing sounding.
 
#76
Sean Baumann said:
[Edit] I don't want to generalize as my experience is with a limited population of instruments and players. However, any story can get one thinking when we are talking about that much $$. These are seriously expense instruments, easily over 4k from what I recall.
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Right. Even on mine, if I had to pay total full new price I think I'd be complaining a little about some slightly rough edges... totally no big deal, but you know what I mean, and really like you said, it'd only be an issue because of the full new price. I may even relay this back to Warrior. Don't know if it'll go anywhere, but can't hurt. On mine, I don't think the new price would be nearly that high, but yeah, some of their super ornate stuff can get WAY up there for sure.
 
#77
Smallequestrian said:
In response to Vic's question...
Besides the QC stories that went around (I have played a couple myself which I felt were less than awesome in that category), I think its a question of aesthetics, neck profile, cost and to a lesser extent the religious ties.

Aesthetically, I always think of them as a weird combination of an MTD and Skjold, but not in a good way.

They seem to cost as much or more than several highend makers but without the reputation, which of course can be a chicken and the egg thing.

Its a pet peeve, but I really despise the looks of the basses with the MM/J due to how much wider the J is than the MM.

And while I definitely will not discount anybody's choice of faith and how they choose to pursue it, seeing the Jesus Crown of Thorns Guitar was definitely a little off putting. But of course there are plenty of players out there who that would appeal too, so I think they still have a decent enough market size.

Also, I don't dig on the name, and I doubt I am alone on that.


That said, your's looks awesome and is obviously well made and pleasing sounding.
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All good points. Yeah, even though I am of the faith, I also don't feel it should be pushed on anyone if that's the sense it gives. Yeah, those X pickups are wider, and it's a different look for sure, but that doesn't bug me, at least. Heck, I even like the Skjold headstock (tho I didn't originally). :D

What did strike me as a bit odd in your post tho is the objection to the name. Is that tied to the religous thing and that's why? I mean most instruments are named after their designers/luthiers, but I never really thought much of it. I just look at it like a band name. Somebody thought it sounded cool so they went with it. Just a guess, tho, dunno.
 
#78
Vic said:
All good points. Yeah, even though I am of the faith, I also don't feel it should be pushed on anyone if that's the sense it gives. Yeah, those X pickups are wider, and it's a different look for sure, but that doesn't bug me, at least. Heck, I even like the Skjold headstock (tho I didn't originally). :D

What did strike me as a bit odd in your post tho is the objection to the name. Is that tied to the religous thing and that's why? I mean most instruments are named after their designers/luthiers, but I never really thought much of it. I just look at it like a band name. Somebody thought it sounded cool so they went with it. Just a guess, tho, dunno.
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+1 I was surprised about the comment about the name Warrior, as I never even thought twice about it. I have to admit that some of my original interest in them back say 7-8 years ago was due the religious thing and wanting to support a "Brother."
 
#79
Vic said:
What did strike me as a bit odd in your post tho is the objection to the name. Is that tied to the religous thing and that's why? I mean most instruments are named after their designers/luthiers, but I never really thought much of it. I just look at it like a band name. Somebody thought it sounded cool so they went with it. Just a guess, tho, dunno.
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The religious connotations of the name don't bother me, I mainly just think its corny, and I would probably be biased in a similar way against a band with that name as well (trying to imagine one of my favorite bands being called Warrior :) ). Also, for myself there is a disconnect between the name Warrior and the concept of playing bass, just doesn't jive for me (almost like talking about groove and fighting in a war :p ). But to be fair if it were the most awesome bass I had ever seen or played and it was a decent deal, I would get over it.

I didn't mean to make it seem like the name is a really big deal and holding them back: I don't think its really that big of an issue.

In general, I don't go out of my way to post criticism's of other peoples bass choices, but I have discussed this with some friends from time to time so I though I would chime in.
 
#80
Smallequestrian said:
The religious connotations of the name don't bother me, I mainly just think its corny, and I would probably be biased in a similar way against a band with that name as well (trying to imagine one of my favorite bands being called Warrior :) ). Also, for myself there is a disconnect between the name Warrior and the concept of playing bass, just doesn't jive for me (almost like talking about groove and fighting in a war :p ). But to be fair if it were the most awesome bass I had ever seen or played and it was a decent deal, I would get over it.

I didn't mean to make it seem like the name is a really big deal and holding them back: I don't think its really that big of an issue.

In general, I don't go out of my way to post criticism's of other peoples bass choices, but I have discussed this with some friends from time to time so I though I would chime in.
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Well just to make sure we're on the same page, ALL of your comments are completely welcome here.

Thing is, at least for me, the name on the instrument has nothing to do with the music anyway, because it's always just been someone's name, so a "name" rather than a "role" is the way I've always viewed it.. To be totally honest, I pretty much never really think about the brand names of any of my basses. IMHO, anyway.
 

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