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Should I change from a 115 to a 210?

115 or 210

  • 115

  • 210

  • Pizza

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#43
Greyvagabond said:
Since there seems to be a consensus about easy ways to improve this setup, I'd love to see what people are using for (1) a cab stand/tiltback and (2) High Pass Filter! I'd be curious in using both.
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OP here. There's been a lot of good feedback in this thread, and I appreciate everyone's comments.

I read a bit of the HPF thread, and one guy used his ZOOM MS pedal with the Crossover "effect" on its lowest setting. I have the same pedal, and the lowest setting is 80hz. This seems kinda high to me. I think I'd get a better result from using the Bass EQ effect, and killing 50hz. Thoughts?

I'm also very interested in what non-repurposed stands everyone is using. I think the modded keyboard stand posted is great, but my keyboard stand is currently holding up my keyboard. I do use an Auralex Gramma for apartment purposes, so something that could go on top of that would be great. I'm also not opposed to something like Fender kickback legs, though I think they'd look ridiculous.

As for the cab itself, I'll turn the tweeter back on. I had it off because it sounded terrible with my MXR Bass Distortion, but I changed to using a DOD Boneshaker, so it's worth exploring again.

Thanks everyone!
 
#45
Stumbo said:
Here's a good post on the topic from the mega thread:

1) A HPF helps deals with boomy venue and/or stage acoustics (like putting your rig on a stand or a pad, which I also recommend, to disconnect from stage)

2) decreases speaker "floppyness" by reducing mechanical movement, especially in ported cabs. Still, it works for sealed cabs too.

3) Protects speakers from transient spikes.

4) Keeps your amp from working so hard and gives more headroom by cutting unneeded/unnecessary frequencies (below port tuning or speaker ) from being reproduced (mud).

5) Help balance string to string volume.

6) Better stage volume and clarity.

7) Allows your bass amp tone control(s) to boost or cut frequencies that matter. If you add a LPF (low pass filter), depending on your style, you can tame the highs as well.

8) Allows you to control what you send to the FOH mixing board. Why send mud to the FOH? Same for LPF.

9) Helps keep your rig from stepping on the kick drum's slot.

10) Can also be used by guitar and keyboard players to cut their low-end incursions into bass guitar territory

11) Helps you sit in the mix better because your rig is not reproducing muddy and/or sub-sonic, non-hearable lows even if it sounds good on stage

12) Allows your passive or active bass guitar tone controls to be more effective

13) Will help control 5 and 6 string and other down-tuning bass's low frequencies and help your rig go louder and sound clearer and cleaner

14) Controls and protects speakers from effects that produce sub-octave tones. Can also improve sub-octave tracking along with improving the tone of effects that produce too much low and mid-lows, especially distortion effects. Some pedals come with an HPF and some come with an internal splitter that creates both distortion and clean, allowing you to blend both for best effect before outputting to your amp

15) Also known as a low-cut filter, rumble filter or sub-sonic filter, it could also be called an anti-distortion filter or equalizer. It cuts low frequencies your speakers can't reproduce or reproduce well.

16. Cuts muddy, sub-sonic frequencies so that effects are working with a cleaner signal. This will help keep compressors from reacting too soon and distortion to produce a better tone.
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Thank you for restoring my once-dissipated GAS for an HPF pedal. Should an HPF be right after the instrument, before or after an OD pedal, or right before the amp?
 
#49
Oh right, that's why I turned off the tweeter. There's a lot of high pitched noise with it on. I can compensate for it with the high rolloff on the amp head, but it seems counterintuitive to keep the tweeter on, and then roll it out of the signal. But I guess I'll still get some higher end response out of it.

First impressions of both the ZOOM crossover and killing 50hz with the bass EQ were not favorable. But this is at home, and not in a mix. So I'll try them again as applicable.
 
#50
HelpImaRock said:
Oh right, that's why I turned off the tweeter. There's a lot of high pitched noise with it on. I can compensate for it with the high rolloff on the amp head, but it seems counterintuitive to keep the tweeter on, and then roll it out of the signal. But I guess I'll still get some higher end response out of it.
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The benefit is that your tone controls still work within the freqs before the rolloff.: thumbsup:
 
#52
I had an audition tonight. Two guitarists with acoustic guitars plugged into amps, and a drummer. We weren't anywhere close to loud, so it was a good opportunity to get ahold of my sound.

I ran the 115 on it's side like I always do, but with the tweeter turned on and the LPF on the Markbass turned on. I also had ZNR and a compressor running on my ZOOM MS70CDR. I removed the shelved EQ nearly immediately. Everything sounded great.

While I'd like a lighter, less bulky cab, I have no complaints about sound or noise. So I appreciate everyone's input. Also, I ate pizza before the audition, just to bring things full circle.
 

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