boy, can't believe I let some much time pass away, although not in vain. well, I got fired for telling the boss that the band members need to practice before rehearsal, not at rehearsal, and while firmly written, it wasn't nasty or f'ed up, but boy, his response was F U Randy, you are so out of here! Stunned me I must say! But, have another project with some guys from that band as well as guys from a previous band, and what fun we are having! and playing with a drummer who can play really good with great timing, wow, what a difference, what the hell was I thinking all this time! You guys were right, get the hell out and don't look back, just keep practicing your craft and move it forward...