Should we DEFINE "Mini Rig of DOOM!!!"???

[Freddels]

I can move my GS412, Stewart 2.1 & preamp rack case and bass in one trip, I guess that qualifies as MINI rig.




It actually takes more work to move my (2) GS112's instead of the GS412. That's why I rarely use them.

MOVE? or carry? The idea is to limit the size here. Perhaps we'll have a medium rig of doom category. I guess it's like Boxing, you weigh an ounce too much and you're in the next category.

 

[woolysock]

You can split hairs till the cows come home and your metaphors are mixed. Here's a real mini rig of doom. Probably weighs 120 lbs but I can carry it all -- plus an Auralex Isolater and a music stand and an instrument stand -- using a Lee Valley Dolly, and with my bass in the other hand. Competes with drums, two guitars, organ, three horns and six vocalists.

Here's proof: [Invalid or Expired Link Removed]

The little blue box on the right doesn't count. It's a mini mini mini rig of not quite doom. A 50 watt Yorkville combo with one 10" speaker.

 

[Mcrelly]

You can split hairs till the cows come home and your metaphors are mixed. Here's a real mini rig of doom. Probably weighs 120 lbs but I can carry it all -- plus an Auralex Isolater and a music stand and an instrument stand -- using a Lee Valley Dolly, and with my bass in the other hand. Competes with drums, two guitars, organ, three horns and six vocalists.

Here's proof: [Invalid or Expired Link Removed]

The little blue box on the right doesn't count. It's a mini mini mini rig of not quite doom. A 50 watt Yorkville combo with one 10" speaker.

I like the size, dimensionally, then I asked myself "why does he think it weighs 120LBS?" then I realized it was the all tube aggie head... so yeah about 120 seams right.

 

[mellobud]

Anyone else think this is ridiculous unneeded verification by people who like to play the inverse penis game?

 

[joelb79]

+1! Only you can decide if the rig is truely mini!

For example, if you use a 4x12" typically, why would a 2x12 not be a mini rig for you! I used 2) 112's. Does that mean my mini-rig has to be a single cab? I THINK NOT! The whole rig is small enough to be carried one trip. 67 lbs.

 

[Mcrelly]

The only reason I started this thread was I noticed a trend of people with quite large setups calling them "mini"

from dictionary.reference.com:

Mini: Something that is distinctively smaller than other members of its type or class.

RIG: gear (including necessary machinery) for a particular enterprise

DOOM: 1. Inevitable destruction or ruin.
2. Fate, especially a tragic or ruinous one.
3. A decision or judgment, especially an official condemnation to a severe penalty.
4. Judgment Day.
5. A statute or ordinance, especially one in force in Anglo-Saxon England.

I couldn't decide which one applied to equipment, but #1 probably applies to the fate of this thread...:scowl:

 

[Standalone]

+1 on the carry-in definitions. What confuses the issue for me is the DB that I have to get into the mix.

 

[joelb79]

I mean, gee what we REALLY need around talkbass is rig police.

 

[Dave W]

A rack - mount head in the 200 watt range

If you need more than 200 watts you need a full-blown R.o.D.​

A 100 watt tube head can be subtituted here. I like the Ampeg V-4BH myself.​

So by this definition, everyone that has a Markbass head (a lot of us) can't be considered to have a mini rig of doom. I think that Rig of Doom means, as much power as you can get...mini means...in a small package. 500 watts and under 6 lbs. is pretty mini to me...

How is a tube amp mini? They weigh a ton...

 

[Freddels]

+1 on the carry-in definitions. What confuses the issue for me is the DB that I have to get into the mix.

With DB, I would have my iAmp 500 in a backpack, URB carried on right side, Wizzy or Epi UL110 in left hand. One trip in and out.

 

[Standalone]

With DB, I would have my iAmp 500 in a backpack, URB carried on right side, Wizzy or Epi UL110 in left hand. One trip in and out.

My cruddy bag doesn't do the whole over the shoulder thing. I think my bass would implode if I tried to use what was intended as the shoulder strap.

I do all the PA stuff for the band, so I'm in multiple trips mode anyway.

 

[DWBass]

I can carry this Mini RoD in one trip! Cab in each hand, amp (in case) and bass slung over my shoulder! Probably about 80-85lbs total.

 

[metron]

What about amps that are cosmetically altered? For example adding stickers, paint, or grill cloth. Something that says "doom" or shows that you know what doom is? Then it could be anything really.

 

[bgavin]

I have a little, tiny rig: a Peavey Minx 110 relocated into a micro rack just large enough to hold the amp guts. I call him Spike, due to his small size and big attitude.

He does a good job of driving a 4x10 or bass horn and top, as long as it stays around 8 ohms.

 

[wolfs]

My definition has always been , a one man carryable rig , that only takes one trip to load in. Though i guess if you are the Hulk you can do this with a 810 cab so maybe its not a good definition.

maybe it shoudl be one trip without huffing or puffing or struggling in anyway... or maybe, head in one hand easily, cab(s) in other hand easily.

 

[SundanceChile]

maybe it shoudl be one trip without huffing or puffing or struggling in anyway... or maybe, head in one hand easily, cab(s) in other hand easily.

Which gives me a wonderful idea!

The ability to carry your entire rig(bass/effects/etc. included) up the dreaded flight of stairs in a single trip.

 

[jusplayinmybass]

Which gives me a wonderful idea!

The ability to carry your entire rig(bass/effects/etc. included) up the dreaded flight of stairs in a single trip.

I was going to say the exact same thing. If you can't get it up a flight of stairs in one trip, is it really a one trip rig? Many venues have stairs. I don't think size matters here

 

[emblymouse]

As the original post - meister of the Mini Rig Of Doom thread, I feel I should bring it round to the beginning for perspective's sake. I did not have any particular requirements in mind, I just thought it a fun poke at the giganto rigs being worshipped in other threads. Obviously, after hundreds of posts, this topic has legs! My thinking at the time:

Mini is relative, but quantifiable. My standard was that the rig I created fit entirely into the trunk of my Saturn. Now that's Mini, period. My view was as a space thing vs. weight. As for 'how many trips', 2 or 3 reasonable loads win over one pack mule trip to the chiropractor.

Doom is in the Ear of the Beholder. My Mini Rig (100W tube Pignose thru small 15 & 12 cabs) made me smile because it had kick ass qualities of a much bigger rig (loud, nasty and a tad crunchy). I don't hear the Doom in a hi fi set up doin' the Marcus Miller thing, but that's just me. I've seen lots of Mini, but very little Doom here.

That said, I've really learned a lot and as a direct result of your posts I've turned my original Mini Rig into an all purpose small stack. The same BE s15 now paired w/ a Berg EX112 powered by a Walkabout head. And it still fits in my trunk. I guess I'd better post a new photo!

 

[flakeh]

Well, for me, my rig is mini, but its me.

450w head (well, the head is maybe a head of doom?)
115 cab
210 cab

I can take all that, plus my effects in one trip. cabs in each hand, amp/effects in backpack. Sure, it weighs like 130pounds, but its mini enough.

 

[Pilgrim]

How about this:

#1 -- A "mini rig of doom" must consist of only one cabinet except for cases where it consists of two cabinets, in which case each cabinet may contain only one speaker, not including tweeters.

Somehow this brings to mind the phrase "Bring out the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch!"