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Show me the groovers!

Discussion in 'Bassists [BG]' started by big empty, Oct 11, 2005.


  1. big empty

    big empty

    Oct 11, 2005
    Diamond Bar, CA
    Hey, I'm new here and this is my first post. To make a long and uninteresting story short, I was a pop punk bass player in high school and after a couple years finally broke out of it. Now I've been playing for 5 years and I finally found out about the pocket and the groove. Unfortunately, my "punk rock" upbringing has made it hard for me to just lay back and groove.

    This being said, I need some grooving influences ASAP to immerse myself in. I just ordered the Donny Hathaway Live CD, and I've been working on a Motown bass book off and on for a few months. What are the sickest Jamerson/Babbitt songs that I would not have heard on the radio? What are some other bands along the lines of the Meters that just lay it down constantly? Tell me some other groovers to check out with their most grooving songs, and I will do so. Thanks in advance!

    Adam
     
  2. mahrous

    mahrous

    Aug 13, 2005
    Egypt
    Francis Rocco Prestia of Tower of Power
     
  3. Alvaro Martín Gómez A.

    Alvaro Martín Gómez A. TalkBass' resident Bongo + cowbell player

    The late Bernard Edwards from Chic.
    Jaco Pastorius ("Come On, Come Over" has one of the tastiest grooves ever played to me).
     
  4. big empty

    big empty

    Oct 11, 2005
    Diamond Bar, CA
    By the way, I'm nerdy so I made this a couple months ago:Bass Shrine

    These are the cats I already know of. I would love to have twice as many influences so keep them coming.
     
  5. glwanabe

    glwanabe Guest

    Apr 21, 2002
    All of the Motwon stuff is an education in itself. Jamerson and Babbit are both great. A cheap way to get a random sampling is to check out the compliations discs or in the bargin bin at Wal-mart. lots of good tunes for little money. Or you can find lots of good samples on the net. Motwon has a website with plenty of sound samples.

    Duck Dunn!!!!! Simple DEEEEEP pocket playing.

    Elton Johns early work with Dee Murry on bass. Good Stuff!

    Stevie Ray Vaughan, Tommy Shannon on bass. Thunderous bass lines from Tommy.

    John Mayer, No room for squares CD, or his Concert DVD. No I'am not kidding! David Labruyere on bass, that dude is as solid a bass player as they come. He totally lays it down. You can find plenty of John Mayer videos available on the net. Try LAUNCH, at yahoo.

    There is a lifetime of study right there in the few I just mentioned.

    The way I think about grooving is, Think about how a drummer uses his bass drum, snare and hi-hat. Use that same approach when you create a line. Your root note is your Bass drum beat. The other chord tones are your snare and hi-hat.
    Keep it simple, and add filler notes just to move to the next chord. Remember your job, Keep the time and "outline" the melody. Guitars and keys will add the "color" to your drawing.
     
  6. try playing some reggae with a twist, your twist you already have :eek:

    slightly stoopid=longest barrell ride,closer to the sun,self titled album slightly stoopid
    some of the best grooves ive heard, very small band and all very talented

    just play some zz top :bassist:
     
  7. cdef

    cdef

    Jul 18, 2003
    NET
    Check out anything by Me'shell NdegéOcello. This lady has it. She owns the groove.
     
  8. Larry99

    Larry99

    Aug 17, 2005
    Philadelphia, PA
    Everyone I was gonna list is already on your shrine. ....but especially George Porter Jr. The Meters 2-cd Funkify Your Life - Anthology is a must for any bass player.

    Also Andrew Levy from The Brand New Heavies ..man, that guy can get into a deep pocket - especially on the disc 'Brother Sister'.

    I'll second Me'shell Ndegeocello! ...her solo debut just kills.

    I've also been listening to alot of the Brazilian artist Gilberto Gil lately. I'm not sure who the bass player(s) is(are) but the grooves are really interesting. His cd "Quanta" is superb.

    Also in the world music genre, check out Cheb Mami's cd Dellali. It's traditional Algerian Raj music fused with african, funk, reggae in the pocket grooves - Pino Palladino with Omar Hakim on drums, produced by Nile Rodgers, maybe not classic bass playing but really interesting groovy stuff...
     
  9. WillBuckingham

    WillBuckingham

    Mar 30, 2005
    George Porter Jr. What a phenomenal player. Lots of other good suggestions here but I saw him on your "shrine" and I really admire him.

    I hope he goes back to doing Thursday nites at the Maple Leaf after all this craziness is over.
     
  10. j-raj

    j-raj Bassist: Educator/Soloist/Performer Staff Member Supporting Member

    Jan 14, 2003
    Atlanta, GA!
    anything that Willie Weeks is on.
     
  11. Herbie Hancock: Thrust or Headhunters (Both with Paul Jackson).
     
  12. sethlow3

    sethlow3 Supporting Member

    Jun 19, 2003
    Nashville, Tennessee
    Stuart Zender on the 1st 3 Jamiroquai albums

    James Jamerson of Motown

    John Paul Jones of Led Zeppelin

    Kem's bass player is verrry groovy

    the bass players on Maxwell's 1st album

    Raphael Saadiq is incredible at grooves!!

    Stepan Lessard of DMB
     
  13. LarryO

    LarryO

    Apr 4, 2004
    If you don't mind accoustic music, Eric Claptons "From The Cradle" cd can teach you some patience and has some good tunes....I think It's worth a listen
     
  14. Defiantly pick up some James Brown. It will help ya drop it on da one!
     
  15. James Brown. Very tight rythm section.

    Also P-Funk.

    And, believe it or not, AC/DC. They're tight, too.
     
  16. Alvaro Martín Gómez A.

    Alvaro Martín Gómez A. TalkBass' resident Bongo + cowbell player

    Definitely. The best exercise in discipline.
     
  17. It will all have some kind of influence on you, or at least should, IMO. Don't discount your previous experience, either. I'm an old punk rocker(really old- Clash, Sex Pistols, DK, Ramones)myself, but strangely enough, I have DEEP R&B influences via late 60s/early70s AM radio underneath that stuff. Now my only gig is Church- Heavy R&B content+rock+jazz+nearly everything but country(yessss...). And I do believe punk has a pocket. It may have holes & be full of angst, but it's definitely there.
     
  18. Pthump

    Pthump

    Nov 18, 2004
    chris wood - medeski martin and wood
     
  19. Hub from the Roots is a groove machine. He and ?uestlove are one of my fave rhythm sections. Check out 'Mellow My Man' and 'Proceed'.
     
  20. i say it all the time, but check out 'Black Market' off Weather Report's 8:30, one of the best grooves you'll ever hear from one of the grooviest players.