Show Me Your Bypass Loopers... Please?

[J Posega]

I'm considering adding a bypass looper to my board, and am interested to see the ways fellow TB members use them.

Do you go with grouped loops (ie: fuzz loop, filter loop, modulation loop, etc) or each loop is a particular sound (octave and fuzz for synthy stuff, flanger and delay for spacey stuff)?

How many loops do you have and how many pedals do you have?

Or do you have a programmable looper? Maybe even a blender looper?

I think I could get away with 5 or 6 loops, grouped by effect type. But I change my mind every few days on the subject, and flop between that idea or just going for a programmable unit.

 

[Feral Feline]

I'm picking up the Super8 this evening... Haven't decided how I'll use it (if it even works after I attempt to solder it together).

However, I've also got a parallel looper to build and a flip-flopper as well as a feedback looper...

Super8 has, as its name implies, 8 loops. I was thinking of routing everything that goes into it with a Bored Brain Patchulator 8000:

Could get interesting...

Sub'd

 

[bassbrad]

On my main board I have a Rocktron Tru-Loop blended looper with 4 efx in the loop. I have an AY2 tone shaper and buffer before the loop and a Zoom B2 after for my main sound. I keep daydreaming about a bigger board but this does the trick and I am too lazy to go much bigger or heavier.

 

[MGR]

I vacillate as well in regards to how I want to use my looper, but at the end of the day, I just run individual effects in each loop rather than chain multiple effects per loop. Loop Master has a great way to blend the best of both with their "master bypass switch." The pic below is my 5 looper with tuner out, but I have an eight looper on order with a master bypass so I can create chains yet keep each pedal on its own isolated channel.

 

[MCS4]

I've been using a single bypass loop for a couple of years now, either with blend function or without. I've mostly used a looper that Fuzzrocious made for me, but I've recently been running a LoopMaster that I picked up when I started to have some trouble with the Fuzzrocious.

I've used a few different configurations, but I most often stick all of my pedals in the same loop other than any pedal that I am going to use "always on."

I like this setup as a simple way to give me the ability to activate/deactivate more than one pedal at a time, with the added benefit of taking all of the pedals out of my signal chain when I deactivate the loop.

If I need to do a lot of switching individual pedals on and off in a particular song, I can simply leave the loop activated and then the board behaves like a typical pedal board with no looper.

 

[mrwood4]

I'm currently using the Iguana tail loop. I have loops set up based on type of effect.
loop1- Dirt
loop2- H9 (any sound that's not reverb or delay)
loop3- manta and SYB-3
loop4- H9 (delays and reverbs)
Loop5- FET2B pre amp

 

[Blu bro]

</script>" style="">

my loop selecter is the humble BOSS LS-2. and is set to Loop A + Loop B. signal path is:

Tu-3 -> Cs-3 -> Ls-2 -> POG2-> Mxr DI
Loop A -> Sub-T -> Markbass s/s -> Xero Dlx -> Ls-2
Loop B -> Agu Oct -> XXL ->Octav Squee -> Ls-2

I am very happy with what it does however i am Gassing for a ES-5 to step up even more fun combinations.

 

[vivifiction]

Don't have a picture handy, but I use a Disaster area DPC-8. I have 8 pedals, so it works perfectly for me. The big thing for me is the presets. Being able to set a preset of, say, 4 pedals and jump to it is a must-have for my rig.

Before that, I used a Nose 3-channel looper. I liked it just fine. The middle loop was too hard to get to by itself, but that didn't bother me because I used it as an always on loop. With the Nose, I ran my gain effects in the first loop and then time based in the second loop. I didn't use it much as an easy on/off switch for effects as I did a hard killswitch.

I don't know your rig, but the DPC-8 is perfect for me. I wanted the presets, but also I wanted each loop to have one effect to keep switching to a minimum. It's super nice to not have to turn any individual pedal on or off ever again!

 

[FretNoMore]

Subscribing .. I have not yet put a board together around my new Boss ES-8 and I'm pretty much in the same situation, pondering what to put in each loop. There are almost too many possibilities ...

 

[J Posega]

Subscribing .. I have not yet put a board together around my new Boss ES-8 and I'm pretty much in the same situation, pondering what to put in each loop. There are almost too many possibilities ...

With a programmable unit, I can see how things would get very tricky.

Here's what I'm running: Polytune > Smoothie (always on compressor) > OC2 (1 down) > OC2 (1 down + clean) > Bass Whammy > Barbershop > Muff > Brassmaster > Filter > Phaser > MS70CDR (chorus, delay, reverb) > EQ > ROG Ginger > Ditto

I really just need to figure out what my basic sounds are and see how things could be arranged. Of course, this makes me realize I need some more sounds on my board to begin with.

 

[Testing123]

I'm picking up the Super8 this evening...

The Super8 looks like a very cool product, especially for those with size restrictions (me at present):

However, having watched a video on it, I'm not sure it would be all that easy to use on a gig. It sometimes requires pressing 2 switches at the same time (for instance to call up odd #'s) and even 3 switches at the same time.

It's not a beginner DIY project, but (as I think you already know) you can purchase a Super8 prebuilt on Reverb.com.

 

[J Posega]

The Super8 looks like a very cool product, especially for those with size restrictions (me at present):

View attachment 789685

However, having watched a video on it, I'm not sure it would be all that easy to use on a gig. It sometimes requires pressing 2 switches at the same time (for instance to call up odd #'s) and even 3 switches at the same time.

It's not a beginner DIY project, but (as I think you already know) you can purchase a Super8 prebuilt on Reverb.com.

I've looked at the Super 8 many times. It seems relatively straightforward, and I've built some pedals before, but you're right about the multiple stomps needing to be pressed at once.

I'm really thinking hard about building a bypass looper using some soft-touch (momentary 2DPT) footswitches on bypass boards like Invalid Link Removed or THIS. But, by the time I calculate needing 6 + of the board, stomp switches, wire, jacks, an enclosure, LED's, I'm getting right up into the cost of buying a prebuilt one (except without the soft-touch switches). Add on top of that my lack of time for a build... blah blah blah.

Anyway, I think right now I could get away with 5-6 loops and a master bypass, maybe a tuner out too.

 

[cnltb]

</script>" style="">View attachment 789441

my loop selecter is the humble BOSS LS-2. and is set to Loop A + Loop B. signal path is:

Tu-3 -> Cs-3 -> Ls-2 -> POG2-> Mxr DI
Loop A -> Sub-T -> Markbass s/s -> Xero Dlx -> Ls-2
Loop B -> Agu Oct -> XXL ->Octav Squee -> Ls-2

I am very happy with what it does however i am Gassing for a ES-5 to step up even more fun combinations.

Sorry to ask this here, but how do you use the minitaur?
Thanks!

 

[Feral Feline]

The Super8 looks like a very cool product, especially for those with size restrictions (me at present):

View attachment 789685

However, having watched a video on it, I'm not sure it would be all that easy to use on a gig. It sometimes requires pressing 2 switches at the same time (for instance to call up odd #'s) and even 3 switches at the same time.

It's not a beginner DIY project, but (as I think you already know) you can purchase a Super8 prebuilt on Reverb.com.

I picked it up tonight, it is tiny. The kind of tiny you can't tell from pics, even when there's a frame of reference to indicate size. The switches are way close together. Maybe way too close.

All I require on gigs is a tuner and my preamp/DI (though I have a few other pedals I don't really need, all on a PT Mini). This Super8 is for home use only, toyin' around.

I've got an M5 that requires two stompswitches to be hit siamesaltaneously for entering presets mode — and with my size 13... shoes, I have no problem hitting them together (nonetheless, I still want to try modding the M5 with an extra stompswitch to singularly access presets).

The only time one needs to hit three switches on the super8 is switching between banks (4: A,B,C&D) and 2 modes (loop/presets). Most of the time in a live situation, I'd imagine people wouldn't be switching modes, which leaves banks. Again live, I don't know that I'd need more than 8 presets (out of the total 32), so I might not even be switching banks at home much let alone live.

Definitely for some people, the two/three-at-a-time stomping may not work or it may not meet their needs. It may not even meet my needs wants at home, but only time will tell. It was on sale and I've always toyed with the idea of toying with it – without a real need; so it'll sit for quite a while longer before it gets built because I'll be practicing my solder skills on patch cables and smaller simpler projects before I tackle the Super8. When I finally do attempt its build, I'll try to remember to revisit this thread and weigh in on the two- and three-switch hits (or misses, as the case may be and only if the build is successful).

Looking forward to it!

 

[Testing123]

When I finally do attempt its build, I'll try to remember to revisit this thread and weigh in on the two- and three-switch hits (or misses, as the case may be and only if the build is successful).

Looking forward to it!

I'm looking forward to your user report.

 

[Blu bro]

Sorry to ask this here, but how do you use the minitaur?
Thanks!

The minituar is hooked up to the 12-step. I use its as a compromise Moog Tauras. It is completely seperate from all my effects.

 

[pbass6811]

Right now, I'm using the One Control Iguana Tail Loop 2

I'm trying several configs to see what sounds the best. 95% of the time, I just run each pedal to its own loop, but as I add and remove stuff, it gets more interesting. I'm thinking of going to a Cusack PBT6. It'll give me one more loop, and the ability to reorder pedals and create scenes, but I'll still probably run similar pedals together...

 

[FretNoMore]

Right now, I'm using the One Control Iguana Tail Loop 2

I'm trying several configs to see what sounds the best. 95% of the time, I just run each pedal to its own loop, but as I add and remove stuff, it gets more interesting. I'm thinking of going to a Cusack PBT6. It'll give me one more loop, and the ability to reorder pedals and create scenes, but I'll still probably run similar pedals together...

If you by reorder pedals mean changing the pedal order without physically rewiring them then you need another switcher, I don't think the Cusack PBT6 does that.

 

[pbass6811]

If you by reorder pedals mean changing the pedal order without physically rewiring them then you need another switcher, I don't think the Cusack PBT6 does that.

Yeah, I might have been thinking about another switcher. I don't think I really need that...

 

[sirvill]

Joyo PXL8 is a good low cost option (they have a PXL Live and PXL Pro if you need extra stuff like midi switching).

8 Loops, and its programmable, so you can save combinations of loops against 32 different presets (A->D in 8 banks)