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[Nick von Nick]

To answer your question: yes. The Element only sends the processed, cabsim signal out of the headphone and XLR jacks if you're using it in a pedal chain between your instrument and amp. The 1/4" output is unaffected by the Element's tone shaping.

So...do the outputs from the Element allow you to send the XLR/Cabsim to a mixing board and the unaffected signal via 1/4" to an amp input simultaneously (essentially a THRU output)? I've never found a clear answer. The documentation on the DG website suggests that this is not possible.

I've been eager to see if it fits my needs, but it would need to have the XLR/Cabsim and THRU output functions working in concert.

 

[Cran]

The AM is very rich and doesn't suck your tone. Definitely get the blend and bright switch though. I've had the non version(s) and this is far better.

That's great! I'm glad to hear that it is a good sounding chorus. Those are the options that I plan on getting mine with.

 

[patrickhowell]

So...do the outputs from the Element allow you to send the XLR/Cabsim to a mixing board and the unaffected signal via 1/4" to an amp input simultaneously (essentially a THRU output)? I've never found a clear answer. The documentation on the DG website suggests that this is not possible.

I've been eager to see if it fits my needs, but it would need to have the XLR/Cabsim and THRU output functions working in concert.

The 1/4” through is always unaffected. Affected signal goes to XLR and 3.5mm outputs. 3.5mm & Bluetooth inputs only go to 3.5mm output.

 

[Nick von Nick]

The 1/4” through is always unaffected. Affected signal goes to XLR and 3.5mm outputs. 3.5mm & Bluetooth inputs only go to 3.5mm output.

But...will both outputs (XLR and 1/4") send simultaneously, or will one cancel the other?

 

[patrickhowell]

But...will both outputs (XLR and 1/4") send simultaneously, or will one cancel the other?

The Element gives you: 1/4" thru (dry), XLR (wet), two 3.5mm headphone (both wet), and two digital USB outputs (1 wet / 1 dry) simultaneously.

 

[bass-shy]

But...will both outputs (XLR and 1/4") send simultaneously, or will one cancel the other?

They will both output audio. The XLR will be affected and the 1/4" output will not be.

That's why you are seeing people use other pedals and SansAmps before the Element. (At least that's the way I do it.)

 

[Nick von Nick]

They will both output audio. The XLR will be affected and the 1/4" output will not be.

Fantastic! I was hoping to shoot the XLR line to a mixer/PA and the 1/4" to my Micromark amp as a monitor.
~NvN

 

[bass-shy]

Fantastic! I was hoping to shoot the XLR line to a mixer/PA and the 1/4" to my Micromark amp as a monitor.
~NvN

That's exactly what I do. I still struggle to record bass without having an amp moving air. The Element allows me to record direct into my DAW without having to mess around with mics and I can still have my bass be heard and felt in the room.

I haven't had the Element for very long but I really like the flexibility it has for recording or for practice late at night with headphones.

 

[deepestend]

What are people's favorite end-of-chain XLR out pedals? I think I need something with this capability, but I'm not sure what direction to go. Q-strip? Sansamp VT? something else?

 

[furym]

What are people's favorite end-of-chain XLR out pedals? I think I need something with this capability, but I'm not sure what direction to go. Q-strip? Sansamp VT? something else?

Khan VTDI, tubey goodness that lets me use whatever else in front of it.

 

[bass-shy]

What are people's favorite end-of-chain XLR out pedals? I think I need something with this capability, but I'm not sure what direction to go. Q-strip? Sansamp VT? something else?

Tech 21 SansAmp Bass Driver, Tech 21 Para Driver or Darkglass Element.

I'm still pretty new to the Element but it is super cool and very flexible. I love having headphones outs at the end of the chain for practice, too.

Been using the SansAmp DIs for years. They always work and they sound great. The Para Driver is definitely more versatile than the BDDI but the Bass Driver is tried and true in my rig.

 

[deepestend]

Tech 21 SansAmp Bass Driver, Tech 21 Para Driver or Darkglass Element.

I'm still pretty new to the Element but it is super cool and very flexible. I love having headphones outs at the end of the chain for practice, too.

Been using the SansAmp DIs for years. They always work and they sound great. The Para Driver is definitely more versatile than the BDDI but the Bass Driver is tried and true in my rig.

Does the paradriver just have parametric mids?

 

[Naack]

What are people's favorite end-of-chain XLR out pedals? I think I need something with this capability, but I'm not sure what direction to go. Q-strip? Sansamp VT? something else?

Part of me is thinking about pulling the trigger on a, Acme Motown DI. Apparently they sound great and they look sexy as can be.

 

[deepestend]

The khan and acme look amazing, but probably looking more in the $100-150 range.

 

[bass-shy]

Does the paradriver just have parametric mids?

Yes, just parametric mids. The Para Driver v2 has a "Rumble Filter" for attenuating sub frequencies and an "Air" button for opening up the treble response. Other than that, it has the basic Bass, Treble, Drive and Blend controls.

It's amazing how intuitive, yet interactive the controls are. You can pretty much dial in whatever you want.

 

[Naack]

What I am curious about is if you plug your guitar into the DI, and then in the other input you run a line to your amp, will it send a flavoured signal?

 

[GrapeBass]

What I am curious about is if you plug your guitar into the DI, and then in the other input you run a line to your amp, will it send a flavoured signal?

Most-likely a parallel connection so, no flavor for you!

 

[Naack]

Most-likely a parallel connection so, no flavor for you!

This reminds me of a certain Seinfeld episode involving soup...

 

[deepestend]

Yes, just parametric mids. The Para Driver v2 has a "Rumble Filter" for attenuating sub frequencies and an "Air" button for opening up the treble response. Other than that, it has the basic Bass, Treble, Drive and Blend controls.

It's amazing how intuitive, yet interactive the controls are. You can pretty much dial in whatever you want.

thanks for this explanation. Seems like the para, vt, and q strip all have their upsides. Prob can’t go wrong with any. I have a new pork and pickle I’m going to try to trade.

 

[furym]

Back to compact. Small Gator board with HX Stomp, TT2, and Khan. The Rolls is mounted to the iPad stand and the Stomp page turner is on its own and battery powered if needed at all.