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Well... the level of hate is equaled by the level of defensiveness, at least. I hate no bassist. Really.

But if bugs a person that I think his AC fender is lame... well, he/she needs to let go. What the heck does Harry from San Diego's opinion mean???

that said...

I still think that signature basses are kinda lame. Like "road worn/relic" basses. Kinda posertastic.
 
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Never been a big u2 fan. But with that being said,I always enjoyed the awesome bass tone on the song Sunday bloody Sunday. I have also never had a desire for signature basses,yet if I played one that sounded awesome and felt great I. Wouldn't care if Adam claytons' name was on it or not.
 
The AC sig, Regardless of you think of the player, is the only way you are going to get a sherwood green jazz with a matching headstock and whatever other unique features it has.

Sometimes i think fender would be better off offering the ability to really build a bass, much like you can with G&L. I know they did it on a limited basis not long ago. but if they really went all in on being able to pick your bass features from start to finish, i think it would better serve them and us, rather than the current system
 
Never been a big u2 fan. But with that being said,I always enjoyed the awesome bass tone on the song Sunday bloody Sunday. I have also never had a desire for signature basses,yet if I played one that sounded awesome and felt great I. Wouldn't care if Adam claytons' name was on it or not.

I assure you, the tone you heard is more a product of the engineer at the console than the brilliance of Mr. Clayton. Really.
 
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Very simple concept not comprehended here ( as often the case) - elementary players, because of their (serendipitous) position do not warrant emulation is anticipation of similar results

They are NOT creators but sweep up folks in the right Place at the right time - study and emulate someone worty
 
Very simple concept not comprehended here ( as often the case) - elementary players, because of their (serendipitous) position do not warrant emulation is anticipation of similar results

They are NOT creators but sweep up folks in the right Place at the right time - study and emulate someone worty

Why emulate anyone? Instead, learn as much as you can from everyone that you can (even AC), and discover yourself.
 
Good luck with emulating a shot in the dark one trick pony

Seriously I do not begrudge anyone's sucess but if I had to pick the single most uncreative group of the last 30 yrs it would be U2 - sad commentary on musical tastes that a mimeographed outfit using 2 chords and monotonous drones have sold so many records

It's a testimony to our collective musical education that a group clearly locked in a one dimensional approach to noise making are so sucessful

I could write a U2 knockoff in 30 seconds but be embarrassed with my own limitations simultaneously

I understand their popularity it is analogous to MacDonalds - food without purpose

Maybe, but I bet all four of them can spell McDonald's (the poor dumb bastards).
 
There are presumably a reasonable if not large number of people who listened to U2 a lot in their formative years (high school, college), play bass, and can now afford to buy a Fender Adam Clayton bass for $1800, which they probably wouldn't have been doing in 1986. It's not dumb as marketing goes. With all due respect to Victor Wooten (who seems like an excellent guy) or any other bassist's favorite bassist, there are probably not as many people in that bracket who are influenced by their high school memories to think "Maybe I'll buy a Victor Wooten signature bass."

Maybe this is crass commerce rather than rank-ordering by bass-playing technical awesomeness, but Fender is selling instruments, not memberships to the Bass Players' Hall of Fame.
 
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Don't forget Cliff Williams.

Most gigs are got because of a good attitude, reliability and generally agreeable nature. That might not make one a "great bass player" but if it comes down to you and another guy, and you can both handle the gig technically but the other guy has got one of the nasty holier-than-though disrespectful attitudes prevalent in threads like these, you will get the gig. You'll probably even get the gig if he can play circles around you because that's very seldom required on a gig, and most of those gigs don't pay anyway.

Yup, I love Cliff. He's got a great tone and great feel.
 
I assure you, the tone you heard is more a product of the engineer at the console than the brilliance of Mr. Clayton. Really.

Speaking strictly as an experienced studio player, I'd have to disagree with you on that one. That track was recorded way before protools. Performances on tape were not 'corrected' back then. In those days you had to be a good player in the studio or they'd call someone else in to cut the tracks (known as ghosting). Studio gear and equipment does come into play, but it all starts with the player and his hands. "Sunday Bloody Sunday" is an example of a good performance.
 
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Speaking strictly as an experienced studio player, I'd have to disagree with you on that one. That track was recorded way before protools. Performances on tape were not 'corrected' back then. In those days you had to be a good player in the studio or they'd call someone else in to cut the tracks (known as ghosting). Studio gear and equipment does come into play, but it all starts with the player and his hands. "Sunday Bloody Sunday" is an example of a good performance.
But you don't understand! These guys are way more talented than Adam Clayton and they should be there instead of him!
 
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